Supercandy afraid of reality puts those who speak truth on Ignore...zygote not child!

Mott the Hoople said:
I think you miss my point. Wouldn't it be nice if there was no need for abortion?
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There will always be a need. It is additional trauma on a woman's body, and no medical procedure is without risk (of course pregnancy carries much higher risk). For that reason if you can avoid becoming pregnant that's good. But I am uncertain of the difference it would make otherwise? Look, these babies aren't getting born. This is how I look at it. Say you use a condom and it breaks. If it hadn't broken, no baby. It broke. You have an abortion. No baby.

Either way there's going to be no baby. This is why I find it so laughable when people compare this to killing actual living breathing warm loved children in war. To me, that's psycho talk.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I agree with Bill Clintons assessment on abortion. It should be safe, available, legal and rare. I'm very concerned about the high rates of abortions in our nation. It's a problem. What's incredibly stupid to me is criminalizing women over abortion. That is hardly a solution to the problem. Sex education, including a solid understanding or reproductive biology and the use of birth control is a step in the right direction as is making prenatal care more available and social support not just pregnant women but young mothers with dependent children as well are all steps in the right direction. So is holding young men accountable for their actions and educating them in reproductive biology and birth control.

That or we could force all young women to have one date with SF. That should cure them of ever wanting to have sex again.
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It's worrying when it is become primarily a method of birth control, is RU486 available in the US?

The RU 486 Pill (Mifeprex) was developed and popularized in France in the late 1970's and early 80's. Over 50% of French women who are less than 9 weeks pregnant use RU 486 along with a second pill (misoprostol) to undergo the abortion process. RU 486 is a anti-progesterone which is the primary female hormone needed to maintain pregnancy by preventing the uterus from contracting and expelling (push out) its content before time (full term pregnancy and labor).
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http://www.articlesbase.com/womens-...minate-pregnancy-on-the-first-day-859726.html
 
Darla said:
There will always be a need. It is additional trauma on a woman's body, and no medical procedure is without risk (of course pregnancy carries much higher risk). For that reason if you can avoid becoming pregnant that's good. But I am uncertain of the difference it would make otherwise? Look, these babies aren't getting born. This is how I look at it. Say you use a condom and it breaks. If it hadn't broken, no baby. It broke. You have an abortion. No baby.

Either way there's going to be no baby. This is why I find it so laughable when people compare this to killing actual living breathing warm loved children in war. To me, that's psycho talk.
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I understand that there will always be a need and thus a demand. What I would like to see is that need reduced to a minimum. I guess what I'm saying is an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
 
Superfreak said:
Depends. Abortion is the premeditated taking of an innocent life.

In war, innocents do also die. The difference is (hopefully) that it is not premeditated. We try to avoid the taking of an innocent life, whether it is a child or adult.

Wars for resources or simple conquest are not justified. Wars to protect those that cannot protect themselves may be justified (note the word may). We should have gone into Somalia, the Sudan, the Congo as we did in Bosnia and Serbia. Iraq we all have differing opinions as to why we went in and whether it was justified or not.
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Bullshit, there are bombs we drop that we KNOW will kill innocents. We do it for stratgic reasons, I assume we try to avoid it as much as possable, but its done.


Its premeditated and planned out!
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
It's worrying when it is become primarily a method of birth control, is RU486 available in the US?



http://www.articlesbase.com/womens-...minate-pregnancy-on-the-first-day-859726.html
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Yes it is available, though to what degree depends upon which State you reside. I'm not fond of abortion as a mode of preventative birth control either as I feel there are far better methods, having said that, Darla's right. It aint our (meaning us males) asses which are at risck. Ultimately I believe it's a womans choice.
 
Darla said:
There will always be a need. It is additional trauma on a woman's body, and no medical procedure is without risk (of course pregnancy carries much higher risk). For that reason if you can avoid becoming pregnant that's good. But I am uncertain of the difference it would make otherwise? Look, these babies aren't getting born. This is how I look at it. Say you use a condom and it breaks. If it hadn't broken, no baby. It broke. You have an abortion. No baby.

Either way there's going to be no baby. This is why I find it so laughable when people compare this to killing actual living breathing warm loved children in war. To me, that's psycho talk.
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http://scottthong.wordpress.com/200...sound-video-of-a-baby-being-brutally-aborted/

Yeah... watch the videos Darla...

What is truly funny is watching you be so indifferent to ending a human life given all your anti war protesting and rants about Reps not caring about brown children etc...
 
There are many things I do not agree with and would never personally do, yet I belive they should be legal. I belive in as much freedom as can be allowed without materially affecting the rights of other PERSONS. I belive the zygot and embryo have rights, but they must be ballanced with the rights of the bodies they inhabit.
 
Superfreak said:
watch the videos I just linked to, then tell me what you think of abortion
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I did and I'm unmoved but I'm the wrong person to show that too. I studied embryology in grad school and also did a years sequence in gross anatomy. This has no shock value for me. I've seen far worse. I know some of the gals in my embrylogy class would literally get physicall ill during class and would go running out of the class room and some claimed it gave them night mares. We had two pregnant women in our class of 100 or so and both dropped out of Embryology. It was some pretty fucked up repugnant shit man.
 
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