Dunn trial begins in Florida

I remember in high school I had (white) friends who you could hear coming from two blocks away the sound system in their car was so loud. At the time I thought it was the coolest thing. Of course as I get old I'm yelling at them 'put on NPR you damn trouble makers!' Haha.
 
cawacko said:
I remember in high school I had (white) friends who you could hear coming from two blocks away the sound system in their car was so loud. At the time I thought it was the coolest thing. Of course as I get old I'm yelling at them 'put on NPR you damn trouble makers!' Haha.
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Good grief, already! you are going to be Walt Kowalski to the 100th power by the time you are 60.
 
My dad had the radio permanently on NPR. I used to sneak into the car and change it to the rock station and turn the volume up all the way. He would get so mad.

Now, my kids make fun of me for listening to NPR.
 
Strolla gave a powerful closing. The prosecutor sounded shrill to me.

I still believe justice requires a conviction, but Strolla may have convinced them... using Florida's overly generous self defense exception to murder.
 
Jarod said:
Strolla gave a powerful closing. The prosecutor sounded shrill to me.

I still believe justice requires a conviction, but Strolla may have convinced them... using Florida's overly generous self defense exception to murder.
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I'm way late to this and haven't read the thread but if you would be so kind to indulge me.

The kids were playing loud music at the gas station. This dude went up to ask/tell them to turn it down; claims he was threatened and then shot one of the kids. Dude thought/claims one of the kids had a weapon but no weapon was found. Are those the basics?
 
cawacko said:
I'm way late to this and haven't read the thread but if you would be so kind to indulge me.

The kids were playing loud music at the gas station. This dude went up to ask/tell them to turn it down; claims he was threatened and then shot one of the kids. Dude thought/claims one of the kids had a weapon but no weapon was found. Are those the basics?
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yup...pretty much.
 
cawacko said:
I'm way late to this and haven't read the thread but if you would be so kind to indulge me.

The kids were playing loud music at the gas station. This dude went up to ask/tell them to turn it down; claims he was threatened and then shot one of the kids. Dude thought/claims one of the kids had a weapon but no weapon was found. Are those the basics?
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yes, Three shots initial that killed the kid, He continued to shoot as the car left the station, I think putting 7 bullets into the SUV.
 
The Defendant claims that the kid he killed got out of the SUV and appeared to have a weapon.
 
Jarod said:
I am able to think my friend is doing a great job, but still hope he is going to lose.

I am able to separate my desire for my friend to succeed, with my desire to see justice done.

I am also able to understand that the law is a bad one, but that in this instance the correct result could occur.

Can you not see how these things are possible?
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Odd how you keep saying you want to see "justice done"; while implying that if he's found not guilty, that justice wasn't done. :donno:
Don't you mean that you want vengeance; because which ever way the Jury decides, justice has been done.
 
Bottom line: you have WITNESSES who will be giving testimony. Also, it seems Dunn and his lawyer have thrown the girlfriend under the bus with extreme prejudice.

I'm staying the hell out of Florida, because the SAME cast of characters in the local judiciary that gave us the Zimmerman debacle are involved in this one.....so if some flabby white guy doesn't like my looks or whatever I'm doing, he can eventually blow my brains out and then claim some weak ass version of "stand your ground". Jeezus.
 
Jarod said:
So, this guy shot and killed a 17 year old who was unarmed and inside a car, went home and ordered a pizza and did not call the police before being arrested the next day, and you don't know if he was ligit in his right to kill the kid or not?
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It appears that you've already decided that the only true facts are those that appear to be presented by the prosecution.
Do you always believe what the prosecution presents?
 
Jarod said:
1. No I don't call that violence.
2. Of all the witnesses who testified, the defendant is the only one who testified to verbal threats or intimidation.
3. Do verbal threats make it okay to kill a 17 year old kid? Even if he is "black"?
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It seems that you are of the belief that 17 year old "kids" are incapable of violence, after making a threat. :dunno:
 
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ZappasGuitar said:
Note how, just a few posts ago, Defective was going on about being better than "leftist dunces" and waiting for the jury to do it's part and determine guilt.

Except now it's CLEAR that Defective Truth HAS made up his mind about the defendant's guilt, even though he doesn't have all the facts and evidence he was wailing about a while ago.
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You seldom get anything right shit-for-brains. I am hardly adjudicating the case you moron; I am clearly impartial on who is guilty.

But of course you're too painfully stuck on stupid to comprehend anything beyond your brain dead leftist talking points.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Bottom line: you have WITNESSES who will be giving testimony. Also, it seems Dunn and his lawyer have thrown the girlfriend under the bus with extreme prejudice.

I'm staying the hell out of Florida, because the SAME cast of characters in the local judiciary that gave us the Zimmerman debacle are involved in this one.....so if some flabby white guy doesn't like my looks or whatever I'm doing, he can eventually blow my brains out and then claim some weak ass version of "stand your ground". Jeezus.
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Yeah dunce; stay out of Florida if you plan to threaten any flabby white guys like a dumbass thug. Otherwise, you are perfectly safe.

Moron.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Odd how you keep saying you want to see "justice done"; while implying that if he's found not guilty, that justice wasn't done. :donno:
Don't you mean that you want vengeance; because which ever way the Jury decides, justice has been done.
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False, a jury verdict and justice are not the same thing. Juries sometimes make mistakes and laws are sometimes unjust.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
It appears that you've already decided that the only true facts are those that appear to be presented by the prosecution.
Do you always believe what the prosecution presents?
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No and no, Ive watched much of this trial and have formed an opinion. I also know the defense atty personally, we were prosecutors together... so I know something about his style also.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You seen to be of the belief that 17 year old "kids" are incapable of violence, after making a threat. :dunno:
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No, I don't feel that way. I simply believe a threat without apparent ability to carry it out, without something more, is justification to kill a kid.

If you kill someone because you claim you thought he had a gun, you better have had a good reason to have been mistaken about the gun or you should be going to jail.
 
Truth Detector said:
Yeah dunce; stay out of Florida if you plan to threaten any flabby white guys like a dumbass thug. Otherwise, you are perfectly safe.

Moron.
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So, you believe this flabby white guy when he testified that the kid "threatened him like a dumbass thug"? And you think a threat justifies killing a kid?
 
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