Oceans were the hottest ever recorded in 2022

[moon]

Oceans were the hottest ever recorded in 2022, analysis shows
Seas dominate global weather patterns and the climate crisis is causing profound and damaging changes

The world’s oceans were the hottest ever recorded in 2022, demonstrating the profound and pervasive changes that human-caused emissions have made to the planet’s climate.

More than 90% of the excess heat trapped by greenhouse gas emissions is absorbed in the oceans. The records, starting in 1958, show an inexorable rise in ocean temperature, with an acceleration in warming after 1990.

Sea surface temperatures are a major influence on the world’s weather. Hotter oceans help supercharge extreme weather, leading to more intense hurricanes and typhoons and more moisture in the air, which brings more intense rains and flooding. Warmer water also expands, pushing up sea levels and endangering coastal cities.

The temperature of the oceans is far less affected by natural climate variability than the temperature of the atmosphere, making the oceans an undeniable indicator of global heating.

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Last year is expected to be the fourth or fifth hottest recorded for surface air temperatures when the final data is collated. During 2022, we saw the third La Niña event in a row, which is the cooler phase of an irregular climate cycle centred on the Pacific that affects global weather patterns. When El Niño returns, global air temperatures will be boosted even higher.

The international team of scientists that produced the new ocean heat analysis concluded: “The Earth’s energy and water cycles have been profoundly altered due to the emission of greenhouse gases by human activities, driving pervasive changes in Earth’s climate system.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-hottest-ever-recorded-in-2022-analysis-shows

Melted icebergs in Baffin Bay in the Arctic Ocean near Pituffik, Greenland in July 2022.

Warmer swimming, eh.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

The terrifying part is how much quicker this is happening than even the most dire predictions of a decade ago. But not to worry -- any moment now the Thai washerwoman will show up and slap us around with a Judith Curry blog post claiming this is all fake news.

 

[moon]

Haw, haw, haw, haw, haw...........................haw, haw.......................haw.

 

[martin]

Haw, haw, haw, haw, haw...........................haw, haw.......................haw.

When all is lost.....might as well.....

 

[Bigdog]

When all is lost.....might as well.....

Don't wet your panties yet, insane white lib nazi scum.

" Scientists have predicted that Earth is 15 years away from a "mini ice age," The Telegraph reports. Using a new model of the sun's activity, the solar researchers estimate that in the 2030s the movements of two waves of fluids within the star will lead to a 60% reduction in solar activity. The subsequent decline in Northern Hemisphere temperatures would be similar to the freezing conditions seen in Western Europe during the late 17th century, the scientists announced at the 2015 National Astronomy Meeting. During that time, now known as the Little Ice Age, the Thames River in the United Kingdom froze over for several weeks, which it hasn't done since. Scientists still debate what caused the past cooling; possible explanations include a reduction in sunspots or the eruption of four tropical volcanoes that spewed ash and dust into the atmosphere."

https://www.science.org/content/article/there-mini-ice-age-horizon


And how can anyone measure the temperature of 352 quintillion gallons when they don't even understand the deep water currents?

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Don't wet your panties yet, insane white lib nazi scum.

" Scientists have predicted that Earth is 15 years away from a "mini ice age," The Telegraph reports. Using a new model of the sun's activity, the solar researchers estimate that in the 2030s the movements of two waves of fluids within the star will lead to a 60% reduction in solar activity. The subsequent decline in Northern Hemisphere temperatures would be similar to the freezing conditions seen in Western Europe during the late 17th century, the scientists announced at the 2015 National Astronomy Meeting. During that time, now known as the Little Ice Age, the Thames River in the United Kingdom froze over for several weeks, which it hasn't done since. Scientists still debate what caused the past cooling; possible explanations include a reduction in sunspots or the eruption of four tropical volcanoes that spewed ash and dust into the atmosphere."

https://www.science.org/content/article/there-mini-ice-age-horizon


And how can anyone measure the temperature of 352 quintillion gallons when they don't even understand the deep water currents?

You know that virtually no scientist believes we are heading into another ice age. If there are scientists who think that they are in the teensy minority. AND this article is predicated on analyses of the sun's "fluid movements" so it's reasonably hypothetical. I certainly wouldn't throw out about a century's worth of research for one hypothetical possibility proposed by ONE group somewhere.

Perhaps our friends at Woods Hole (the Oceanographic research facility) could provide you with more information:

https://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/featur... Gebbie, because,even if the atmosphere cools.

 

[Bigdog]

You know that virtually no scientist believes we are heading into another ice age. If there are scientists who think that they are in the teensy minority. AND this article is predicated on analyses of the sun's "fluid movements" so it's reasonably hypothetical. I certainly wouldn't throw out about a century's worth of research for one hypothetical possibility proposed by ONE group somewhere.

Perhaps our friends at Woods Hole (the Oceanographic research facility) could provide you with more information:

https://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/featur... Gebbie, because,even if the atmosphere cools.

Wrong, all scientists believe we are headed for another Ice Age. The questions are when, ... and will white lib nazi scum ever stop pretending they can not read a data chart like the Vostok Ice Core graphs.

BTW, I don't do click bait. If your link contains a significant Quote, I know you will not be afraid to post it here.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Wrong, all scientists believe we are headed for another Ice Age.

Speaking as one who is trained in geology let me clarify that statement for you:

We know that, without the effect of human-cause global warming, ice ages are on a cycle dictated by what is called the Milankovich Cycles which relate to the orbital shape of the earth causing the earth to go through ice ages occasionally.

This is called a CLIMATE FORCING, and it is highly likely that the climate forcings due to human activities (including greenhouse gases) will be sufficient to overcome this effect of orbital obliquity and the next ice age won't happen or will be pushed off for a few centuries. In fact if you look we should be heading back into a cooling cycle in preparation for this next ice age BUT WE AREN'T.

That's actually pretty sobering when you think about it. We are NOT cooling. We are warming. Exactly as everyone predicted.

The questions are when, ... and will white lib nazi scum ever stop pretending they can not read a data chart like the Vostok Ice Core graphs.

What do YOU think YOU can read from the Vostok core that actual scientists can't?

BTW, I don't do click bait. If your link contains a significant Quote, I know you will not be afraid to post it here.

You consider WHOI to be "clickbait"? Guess you know next to nothing about oceanography.

 

[Nordberg]

Don't wet your panties yet, insane white lib nazi scum.

" Scientists have predicted that Earth is 15 years away from a "mini ice age," The Telegraph reports. Using a new model of the sun's activity, the solar researchers estimate that in the 2030s the movements of two waves of fluids within the star will lead to a 60% reduction in solar activity. The subsequent decline in Northern Hemisphere temperatures would be similar to the freezing conditions seen in Western Europe during the late 17th century, the scientists announced at the 2015 National Astronomy Meeting. During that time, now known as the Little Ice Age, the Thames River in the United Kingdom froze over for several weeks, which it hasn't done since. Scientists still debate what caused the past cooling; possible explanations include a reduction in sunspots or the eruption of four tropical volcanoes that spewed ash and dust into the atmosphere."

https://www.science.org/content/article/there-mini-ice-age-horizon


And how can anyone measure the temperature of 352 quintillion gallons when they don't even understand the deep water currents?

hT
Try a thermometer. Temps are easy to measure. What is important is measuring the same place repeatedly. That shows if the water is getting warmer. They also measure many places over and over.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

And how can anyone measure the temperature of 352 quintillion gallons when they don't even understand the deep water currents?

Believe it or not we know a lot about the currents. I was fortunate enough about 30 years ago to be on a research cruise in the North Atlantic (when I was briefly working as an oceanography tech) and our job was to measure what is called a "Deep water formation event", where one of the big currents in the sea between Greenland and North America dips down very deep into the water column and then turns and comes back up. We were using tracers to measure the rate of the current's overturning. It was really neat stuff. Gave me a real appreciation for how complex oceanography actually is.

Sure we can always learn more, but we know enough right now to at least not be totally in the dark.

 

[martin]

Don't wet your panties yet, insane white lib nazi scum.

" Scientists have predicted that Earth is 15 years away from a "mini ice age," The Telegraph reports. Using a new model of the sun's activity, the solar researchers estimate that in the 2030s the movements of two waves of fluids within the star will lead to a 60% reduction in solar activity. The subsequent decline in Northern Hemisphere temperatures would be similar to the freezing conditions seen in Western Europe during the late 17th century, the scientists announced at the 2015 National Astronomy Meeting. During that time, now known as the Little Ice Age, the Thames River in the United Kingdom froze over for several weeks, which it hasn't done since. Scientists still debate what caused the past cooling; possible explanations include a reduction in sunspots or the eruption of four tropical volcanoes that spewed ash and dust into the atmosphere."

https://www.science.org/content/article/there-mini-ice-age-horizon


And how can anyone measure the temperature of 352 quintillion gallons when they don't even understand the deep water currents?

No. I don’t think all is lost, but might be in gradually increasing danger of it.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

No. I don’t think all is lost, but might be in gradually increasing danger of it.

That's the problem. Likely all the worst effects of climate change will probably happen after many of our generation are dead. It will be the next generations that suffer the most.

That's the worst part of it all. There are "tipping points" that we are dangerously close to going past and we won't even know it until many years after the fact when we realize we cannot fix the problem.

Frankly I'm glad I don't have kids because I know our generation will go down as one of the worst in human history because we had all the information and we let scientific illiterates "debate" it until we couldn't take care of the problem.

 

[martin]

That's the problem. Likely all the worst effects of climate change will probably happen after many of our generation are dead. It will be the next generations that suffer the most.

That's the worst part of it all. There are "tipping points" that we are dangerously close to going past and we won't even know it until many years after the fact when we realize we cannot fix the problem.

Frankly I'm glad I don't have kids because I know our generation will go down as one of the worst in human history because we had all the information and we let scientific illiterates "debate" it until we couldn't take care of the problem.

I do have kids and share that worry.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

No one believes this "data". Climate change is the most obvious scam in history. Of course climates change.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

No one believes this "data". Climate change is the most obvious scam in history. Of course climates change.

The ONLY reason YOU know climate changes over the earth's history is the work of what are called Paleoclimatologists. They have spent decades understanding how the earth's climate NATURALLY changes. And they have learned a LOT about the NATURAL FORCING mechanisms.

Now we can't explain the warming we've seen over the last 60-100 years using ONLY the natural forcings. We have to start factoring in what humans are doing.

So in the end the people who taught you the earth's climate changes naturally almost all believe that the current warming is due at least 50% or more to human activity.

Here's an IPCC graphic that shows the effect. Scientists took temperature data from 1850 to the 2000's and they tried to explain the warming by looking at the effects of NATURAL FORCINGS ALONE, but the data doesn't fit perfectly. But when you bring in HUMAN FORCINGS (eg greenhouse gases, landuse changes, industrialization, etc) suddenly the data MAKES SENSE.

 

[Bigdog]

Speaking as one who is trained in geology let me clarify that statement for you:

We know that, without the effect of human-cause global warming, ice ages are on a cycle dictated by what is called the Milankovich Cycles which relate to the orbital shape of the earth causing the earth to go through ice ages occasionally.

This is called a CLIMATE FORCING, and it is highly likely that the climate forcings due to human activities (including greenhouse gases) will be sufficient to overcome this effect of orbital obliquity and the next ice age won't happen or will be pushed off for a few centuries. In fact if you look we should be heading back into a cooling cycle in preparation for this next ice age BUT WE AREN'T.

That's actually pretty sobering when you think about it. We are NOT cooling. We are warming. Exactly as everyone predicted.



What do YOU think YOU can read from the Vostok core that actual scientists can't?



You consider WHOI to be "clickbait"? Guess you know next to nothing about oceanography.

Milankovitch cycles predict an ice age every 40,000 years, but for the last 2 million years we've had 20 ice ages, about one every 100,000 years. And the predictions for when the next one is due are all over the place. The Holocene epoch is unprecedented.

As you can see even in the Vostok chart, Earth's avg. temperature does not move in a straight line. And the whole thing is based on comparing satellite data to proxy data, which is NOT a scientific method. The Left throws out modern proxy data that does not agree with the Sat's, like Tree rings.

I can see the data they are hiding or dismissing (the vast majority depend on gov't funding). I look at raw data first and then make my own conclusions, as do many scientific minds that are not being paid to toe the global line.

If you can't post the significant link, yes it's clickbait. The purpose of a link is to source the quote you post, IMO.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

And the whole thing is based on comparing satellite data to proxy data, which is NOT a scientific method.

Why wouldn't it be?

The Left throws out modern proxy data that does not agree with the Sat's, like Tree rings.

Incorrect. The tree ring data you are talking about is a small subset of tree ring data from some trees in the the high latitudes whose tree ring growth deviates from temperature trends but ONLY RECENTLY. It could also be related to stresses like local drought stresses in that area etc. So it isn't a significant issue but it is an interesting issue.

It would be like finding one of your pH meters started malfunctioning for an unknown reason. You wouldn't then assume that pH as a concept isn't correct, but you'd try to figure out why this particular meter doesn't work as normally it would.

 

[Bigdog]

Believe it or not we know a lot about the currents. I was fortunate enough about 30 years ago to be on a research cruise in the North Atlantic (when I was briefly working as an oceanography tech) and our job was to measure what is called a "Deep water formation event", where one of the big currents in the sea between Greenland and North America dips down very deep into the water column and then turns and comes back up. We were using tracers to measure the rate of the current's overturning. It was really neat stuff. Gave me a real appreciation for how complex oceanography actually is.

Sure we can always learn more, but we know enough right now to at least not be totally in the dark.

Very cool, down and up .. sounds like a unique phenomenon. IMO, we know very little about the oceans or predicting global climate or how human's can control the climate. Cyanobacteria gave us oxygen ... and humans are restoring CO2 back to the atmosphere

Even Nasa admits they don't understand clouds because they also reflect sunlight and have a cooling effect. You can't have an effective computer modeling when you have any fudge factors.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

and humans are restoring CO2 back to the atmosphere

This is SORT OF true. Yes the carbon we burn was at one point CO2 in the atmosphere which got "fixed" by bacteria and plants and algae. But here's the important bit: we are re-releasing all that carbon back into the atmosphere MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH faster than it took to sequester it initially out of the atmosphere. That carbon took millions of years to accumulate and sit out of the carbon cycle. We are releasing it back into the atmosphere at a SHOCKING rate compared to how long it took to accumulate.

Think of drinking water. Drinking water is good, especially if you are thirsty and your body is needing hydration. But if you drank an amount of water that you would normally take in over the span of 6 months an drank all that water in an hour it would kill you.

 

[Bigdog]

Why wouldn't it be?



Incorrect. The tree ring data you are talking about is a small subset of tree ring data from some trees in the the high latitudes whose tree ring growth deviates from temperature trends but ONLY RECENTLY. It could also be related to stresses like local drought stresses in that area etc. So it isn't a significant issue but it is an interesting issue.

It would be like finding one of your pH meters started malfunctioning for an unknown reason. You wouldn't then assume that pH as a concept isn't correct, but you'd try to figure out why this particular meter doesn't work as normally it would.

Because you have to use the same method of measuring all data for comparison. You know that.

There's a lot more old proxy ring data than just the pines that Mann used.