He knew that she was breaking through a door with the intention of attacking members of Congress. He knew that there were bombs placed at the DNC. He knew that the rioters are shown guns. And most of all, he knew that she was refusing to stop trying to get past the door.
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Yep. He fired one round then fled. Normally, you are trained to fire (depending on the agency) two or three rounds center mass on the target. The person has to be an immediate threat to life of destruction of property. Babbitt was neither. Less than lethal force was called for. Byrd should have come out of that side room, and gotten where Babbitt could see him and then he could use commands to control the situation. He did none of that and that is crystal clear on the videos of this incident.
T. A. Gardner
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He had no idea what her intentions were. She couldn't see him and he made ZERO effort to make his presence known to her. He didn't know there were bombs. That's the DC police, not the Capitol police. He didn't know any of the rioters had guns, and even if he did, she didn't have one and that's what counts here.
He had no idea if she would stop or not if she knew he was there and had his weapon pointed at her. But since he didn't even bother to try less than lethal force, he failed to follow his use of force guidelines. Firing a single shot and then fleeing the scene says he was scared shitless. What cop shoots a suspect and then runs from the scene?
She was ordered to stop attack, and yet continued to attack. He had every idea that her intentions were to get through the door, because she was going through the door.
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Attack what? The only warning came from the cops on her side of the door before she started through. That doesn't count as Byrd using less than lethal force and getting her attention. Byrd failed to do so. He had no idea what her intentions were. He could only see her actions. He chose not to enter the hallway and confront her but shoot from the side, firing a single round, and then flee the scene. That last is completely unacceptable in any circumstances. No cop whatsoever should run from the scene of a shooting, particularly if that cop was the one firing his service weapon.
If Byrd were so concerned about someone entering that hall, given the crowd on the other side of the door, doesn't it make sense that after shooting Babbitt he would come out and try to control the crowd rather than run away in cowardice?
The Congress members that were being evacuated.
T. A. Gardner
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Good luck with that. Other than you have no way of knowing that, let alone proving it, there were no members of Congress anywhere in that wing of the Capitol by the time Babbitt climbed through that window.
"On the other side of those doors, many lawmakers and staff were being evacuated by Capitol Police,but some were trapped in the House balcony."
T. A. Gardner
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I have no idea where that quote came from, but it too is largely irrelevant. Babbitt, singly, was hardly some massive threat. Byrd didn't even try in the least to use less than lethal force. Further, there is NO EXCUSE, none, nada, for him fleeing the scene after shooting her. If the threat were that serious, why did he run away rather than stand his ground?
No matter how you slice it, Babbitt did not represent an immediate threat to life or property and therefore, lethal use of force was not called for. Byrd fucked up then, in cowardice, ran away from his fuck up.
She was breaking through a door(property) to get access to members of Congress and property beyond the door. That is a threat to life and property.
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No, that isn't. I went through federal use of force training several times--yes, the military uses it for security purposes--and it's the same thing the Capitol police would have gotten. Her climbing through that window isn't enough to warrant it on its own. It also doesn't excuse for a nanosecond Byrd fleeing the scene. You shoot somebody, you stay there and take responsibility at the scene.
And yet I have heard a half dozen cases where just trespassing on the White House has led to death. Quick rush to the White House and tell them your breakthrough in policing standards.
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Different situation. The White House grounds aren't public, and you'd be trespassing. Unlike the Capitol which is usually open in part to the public, the White House is restricted.
You would think a barricaded door, and Capitol Police shouting to stand back would tell the rioters that the back hallway was not a public area.
Parts of the Capitol Building is open to the public, but not all of it. Again, having to break through a door is usually a safe bet that you are trespassing.
There is a saying that a bad lock on a door is meant to keep honest men honest. Any lock is a clear signal that door is not meant to be trespassed through.
lol so you think the racist murderer killed her over pipe bombs, and a knife in her backpack? lol
Those three, and the armed tac force officers behind her, and of course none of them felt threatened, that's just you pulling stuff out of your ass, as usual. They were the same side of the doors. And, the hallways had plpenty of people between her more doors between her and the criminals hiding from their victims.
I have an idea, you stop smoking rocks and dreaming up dumb shit to say.
Her hands were always empty, as we have the videos. You can't really come up with any threat.
More moronic rubbish.
In fact, there were very few actual 'rioters', and we know there sere Federal agents in the crowds as well.
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Only a few people were smashing on the doors, out of s roomful of people, including armed police officers.
Keep bloviating bullshit until everybody gets bored, so you can Post Last!!! again.
Different situation. The White House grounds aren't public, and you'd be trespassing. Unlike the Capitol which is usually open in part to the public, the White House is restricted.
Walt like to shift subjects whenever he paints himself into a corner with his reliance on parroting Democrat narratives.
They had moved out of her way, because they felt threatened. Giving her and her fellow traitors access to the door.
Hey, remember when you claimed she was not armed.... Have you moved on from that? Are you now moving on to claiming that breaking through a door is a normal way to enter an area of a building?
Well that makes it OK. And only a few members of Al Qaeda crashed planes into buildings.
How many of them had weapons? We know several had zip ties, and it has now come out that some had guns. They of course had nooses to lynch the members of Congress. Was it only a few that had weapons?