Those groups do hate being called out. At least some, like Westboro Baptist church, are honest.
Jack Posobiec
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I've never seen an honest MAGAt either. They might be demented or they might be lying, but they are all dishonest.
Taichiliberal
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That's a nice collection, which essentially proves:First let's define this:
A hate group is a social group that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or any other designated sector of society.
Example 1 of the SPLC inspiring terrorism against groups they hate:
Among the witnesses for the hearing was Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council, which was the victim of an SPLC-inspired terror attack in 2012.
“On August 15, 2012, our organization experienced firsthand what happens when inflammatory rhetoric is legitimized by respected institutions,” Perkins testified. “That morning, an armed LGBTQ activist named Floyd Corkins entered FRC headquarters with a loaded semi-automatic pistol, nearly 100 rounds of ammunition, and 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches. He later admitted to the FBI that his intention was to ‘kill the people in the building’ and stuff the sandwiches into his victims’ mouths as a political statement.”
This is an example of the SPLC using inflammatory language to incite violence against a group they hate.
Example 2.
In 2024, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) added Genspect to its “hate map” without providing evidence of hatred, incitement to violence, or discriminatory conduct on our part. This designation appears to stem from disagreement with our position that medical interventions for gender distress—especially for young people—should be approached with appropriate caution, transparency, and rigorous scientific oversight.
The Southern Poverty Law Center have weaponized “hate” labels to suppress legitimate policy debate and scientific inquiry
Genspect NZgenspect.substack.com
Again, the SPLC labeled a group they disagree with politically on the issue of LGBTPDQ... to smear them with lies, and incitements to violence.
Example 3
Former Senior Fellow at the SPLC Mark Potok, who served as editor-in-chief of the SPLC’s Intelligence Report, spoke publicly and frankly on different occasions about the SPLC’s real purpose regarding hate group labeling saying, “Our criteria for a ‘hate group,’ first of all, [has] nothing to do with criminality or violence. ... It's strictly ideological. ... I want to say plainly that our aim in life is to destroy these groups, to completely destroy them.”
That is an open admission by a (former) senior staffer at the SPLC stating their intent towards groups they label as hate groups.
Example 4
This conservative Christian group sued the SPLC all the way to the Supreme Court, winning each time against repeated appeals by the SPLC:
Pastor Whose Christian Org Was Mislabeled Hate Group by SPLC Pledges to 'Stand For Truth' After SCOTUS Declines Case
Pastor Rob Pacienza, president and CEO of D. James Kennedy Ministries (DJKM), says his ministry will push forward and continue to “stand for truth” after the U.S. Supreme Court declined to review his organization’s legal challenge against an organization that labeled DJKM a hate group.cbn.com
As part of discovery in this case the following was entered into evidence:
"The SPLC's stated motivation is to 'destroy' groups with which it disagrees, and it accomplishes this objective by falsely labeling nonviolent organizations as 'hate groups," Liberty Counsel Founder and Chairman Mat Staver said in a press release. "This label is false and those who rely upon it must stop."
Judge Okays Defamation Case Against SPLC for 'Hate Group' Label
A judge has ruled that a "hate group" defamation case against the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) can move forward fo
That is the very definition of a hate group.
1. The SPLC "hate group" list comes with hefty receipts via research of public records, news reports and valid, historical research.
www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/family-research-council/
That you site a LONE nut job who reacted to this ONE group does not a "hate group" make (remember the nut who shot up a fast food joint as reaction to "conspiracy theories" by the likes of Alex Jones & the like?). To date I see no OFFICIAL/LEGAL designation of the SPLC as a hate group.
2. Your link doesn't work regarding Mark Potok. I'd like to actually read the transcript of that speech, because you give edited OPINION here regarding an EXCERPT. To date, most searches give the quote, but don't link that entire speech or interview it came from. What's curious is that given the actual receipts the SPLC posts on each group on the list, I fail to see what is wrong with this intention. Someone advocating and organizing and acting to hurt me should be destroyed (financially via lawsuits, public exposure), not negotiated with.
3. As for the Liberty Counsel: www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/liberty-counsel/
4. Yes, the SCOTUS ruled against the SPLC in some recent cases (some with Thomas withholding opinion .... there's a shock) regarding PERSONAL slander charges .... some were settled. But to date, NO LEGAL RULING BY ANY COURT THAT THE SPLC IS A HATE GROUP.
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Taichiliberal
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Remember, you're dealing with a mindset that insists it's personal interpretations overrule historic definitions and will make exceptions if their interpretation becomes blatantly hypocritical.
Taichiliberal
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You can hate someone without physically assaulting them. The groups that the SPLC sight CONSISTENTLY promote a type of propaganda that gives ammunition to those who seek to rewrite laws that disenfranchise targeted groups from many civil rights guaranteed by our Constitution. They also supply "facts" for those who actually take physical action against those they "hate". Some are not mentally well, others are rational and sane who seek confrontation.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Let's reverse this. The SPLC, by their OWN STANDARDs is a hate group. It's that simple.
A hate group is an organization that—based on its official statements or principles, the statements of its leaders, or its activities—has beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics. We do not list individuals as hate groups, only organizations. The organizations on the SPLC list vilify others because of their race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender identity—prejudices that strike at the heart of our democratic values and fracture society along its most fragile fault lines. The FBI uses similar criteria in its definition of a hate crime: [A] criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.
Methodology: How hate groups are identified and categorized
This list of 940 active hate groups is based on information gathered by the SPLC’s Intelligence Project from hate group publications, citizen reports, law enforcement agencies, field sources, web postings and news reports. Only organizations known to be active in 2019, whether that activity...
www.splcenter.org
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
A hate group can also be based on its ACTIONS. The SPLC goes after other organizations that it finds offensive to its own beliefs and practices. The SPLC vilifies others because of their race, religion, ethnicity, sexual beliefs, and gender ideology. It is a hate group.A hate group is an organization that—based on its official statements or principles, the statements of its leaders, or its activities—has beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics. We do not list individuals as hate groups, only organizations. The organizations on the SPLC list vilify others because of their race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender identity—prejudices that strike at the heart of our democratic values and fracture society along its most fragile fault lines. The FBI uses similar criteria in its definition of a hate crime: [A] criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.
Methodology: How hate groups are identified and categorized
This list of 940 active hate groups is based on information gathered by the SPLC’s Intelligence Project from hate group publications, citizen reports, law enforcement agencies, field sources, web postings and news reports. Only organizations known to be active in 2019, whether that activity...www.splcenter.org
What beliefs and practices?
Point out where on their site they do that.
Again, let's use Westboro Baptist church as an example. Do they vilify the LGBT people?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
For example, groups that do not agree with the Left's LGBTPDQRST agenda, particularly the trans agenda. Or, groups that oppose abortion.
That's part of their whole "Hate map" thing.
This is a Mote and Bailey fallacy. Regardless of what the Westboro Baptist Church does or doesn't do, does not invalidate that the SPLC is a hate group.
If by agenda you mean advocating for LGBT rights, then I guess so.
The anti-abortion movement has a history of violence.
Not an answer.
Not a fallacy. It's a simple question. By saying yes, then applying your logic you hate those Christians.
Nope. What's the matter?
This is a political forum.
How am I sucking?
Here as everywhere you are expected to contribute.
U once threw in great Asian ass pics.
What else have U got?
I have contributed. What exactly is wrong with my posts here in this thread?