Jake Starkey
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And it Still Will Not Pass SWNP
Chuck Schumer on the "SAVE Act"
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And it Still Will Not Pass SWNP
Taichiliberal
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PAY ATTENTION, GUMBY:
the TSA requires those who don't have a passport or a copy of their birth certificate.to get one for domestic flights. THAT takes time,
Yet, you don't whine about that. Only for voting in elections do you whine about that. Why?
** Note: I purposely referenced 'birth certificate' for stylistic reasoning, but it's technically a 'real ID' (or similar) that is required, and a birth certificate is required in order to get such an ID (or similar).
The TSA requirements are already in effect.
Yet, you don't whine about that. Only for voting in elections do you whine about that. Why?
Tuesday, November 3rd 2026. (229 days from today)
This varies greatly. It could be as quick as the very same day (for in-person services) or it could take multiple weeks (for mail services). Personally, I would obtain one well in advance of when I would need it, but it doesn't take anywhere near 229 days to obtain one.
This varies by state, but in Wisconsin, it costs $20 for the first copy (+$3 for any additional copies ordered at the same time) plus fees for any additional services provided (such as expedited service).
Passport book = $165 total fees
Passport card = $65 total fees
Passport book + card combo = $195 total fees
Additional service fees may also apply.
It could take a month or two (or possibly longer) to obtain a passport... nowhere near 229 days.
What about getting an adult to explain the word 'proactive'?
Get cracking, pokey.
THE SENATE HAS NOT PASSED THE BILL YET ... and it looks like they won't have the voter majority to do so. THAT MEANS IT IS NOT LAW. THAT MEANS THE STANDARDS FOR PROOF OF VOTER REGISTRATION STANDS ACROSS THE NATION .... JUST AS IT DID WHEN THE "RED WAVE" TOOK PLACE IN 2010 AND 2020, JUST WHEN CHEETO JEEZUS WON IN 2016 and when Biden won in 2020. And since you like to speculate, what do you think of the chances of the GOP TRYING THIS AGAIN in the next 229 days? Each time they do, the time line ticks down on that 229 days.
The turn around time to obtain a birth certificate copy once you fill out the form and mail it can take up to 2 months or a little bit over. The same goes for a passport. The MAGA GOP was hoping for immediate passage of the bill into law. That means A WHOLE LOTTA PEOPLE WOULD LITERALLY HAVE TO RE-REGISTER, which takes about another month on top of everything else. And remember, your Orange Oaf courtesy of the Apartheid Punk and DOGE have truly screwed over effective personal in the very federal agencies that process these items. Can you say DELAY boys and girls?
And the SAA virtually eliminates mail-in voting. That means a lot to rural folk, college kids and senior citizens. Also, many senior folk are on a fixed income, so dropping the passport money may cause (unnecessary) dire straits for them.
And before you parrot the same old stupid MAGA line: Even the Heritage Foundation conceded that there is NO RAMPANT OR EFFECTIVE VOTER FRAUD IN OUR ELECTIONS. So while phasing in a voter ID system THAT WILL BENEFIT AND NOT DISENFRANCHISE (which a portion of democrats support), it does NOT mean that you completely stop the current voting system which put your Cheeto Jeezus twice into office. Capice?
Taichiliberal
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Jake Starkey
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Accept that SAVE is finished.
It will not pass.
And elections coming with the voters much more willing, particularly the indies, to vote, however reluctantly for the Democrats.
The Democrats now have a change to take 26 governorships, a gain of three.
It will not pass.
And elections coming with the voters much more willing, particularly the indies, to vote, however reluctantly for the Democrats.
The Democrats now have a change to take 26 governorships, a gain of three.
Elections in Constitutional America were run by the states.
gfm7175
Jesus is LORD!
PAY ATTENTION, POKEY:
I never claimed that they did. Stop making bogus position assignments. Stop deflecting.
US citizens OVERWHELMINGLY support this bill, yet CONgress refuses to pass it. Why do you suppose that is?
I never claimed that it was. Stop making bogus position assignments. Stop deflecting.
Biden did not win in 2020. No valid election took place. The election faulted due to election fraud.
Nope. You're wrong. It only takes a couple weeks or so at most.
Correct, exactly as I have already told you.
What is "MAGA GOP"? There is no such thing. MAGA is not GOP. Team Lion is NOT Team Elephant.
This is a lie. There is no "lots of people would need to re-register" associated with this bill.
?????
GOOD!
I'm "rural folk". I drive down the road a few miles to my town hall and I vote there in person. It's super easy. I usually do so first thing in the morning before driving into work.
How many senior folk are "just getting a passport now at 80 years old"? You're being stupid (still). I also highly doubt that less that a couple hundred dollars is going to "break the bank" for them.
Why would I care what the Heritage Foundation has to say about it?
No.
Jake Starkey
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Taichiliberal makes gfm look goofy.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Oh lord, here we go again. Another lengthy yet useless response that essentially boils down to lies, dodges, regurgitation of MAGA talking points, supposition and conjecture. I've got some time tonight, so I'll just quick as possible dismantle this MAGA mish-mosh point for point:
1. No originality.
2. Go back and read carefully and COMPREHENSIVELY. I never accused you of such. It's part of a narrative that dismantles your core claim(s).
3. Not quite:
Before reading a series of messages opposing the SAVE Act, Americans support the act by 11 points (50% support – 39% oppose), including independents by seven points (42% support – 35% oppose). After reading a series of messages opposing the SAVE Act, Americans oppose the act by two points (45% support – 47% oppose), underwater among independents by 12 points (34% support – 46% oppose).
www.navigatorresearch.org/the-more-americans-learn-about-the-save-act-the-less-they-like-it/
4. See #1. If you can copy and paste that I did this in no uncertain terms, then do so. If not, you can just continue running your lie like a sick bird's butt.
5. Really? Because THE GOP SENATE CONSENSUS SAID OTHERWISE, AS DID FORMER ATTN. GEN. BARR, AS DID THE 60 CONTENTIOUS COURT CASES. 6 years out and only your unhinged Cheeto Jeezus and his loyal ($$) minions are trying to prove otherwise ... with NO success other that keeping such nonsense afloat in the media.
6. Not quite, as the time frame varies by state from on-line ordering to mailing. Here's an example: www.usbirthcertificates.com/processing-times
7. Umm, no you didn't. You made an erroneous claim, of which I've had to DOCUMENT YOUR ERROR on one part in #6 here. As for passports (note that this does NOT include mailing time):
www.travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply/processing-times.html
8. MAGA = Make America Great Again. That was the running platform for the 2024 election, the stupid cap Dump wears, and the bottom line mantra and justification for all his actions and mandates in office. The current Republican Party (aka the Grand Old Party) has the majority in the House and Senate ... and only recently has had less than 10 members break ranks and vote against some Orange Oaf executive orders and such. So stop acting stupid and pretending that in a conversation only official and exact words have to be used, because your feckless leader throws that contention right out the window.
9. Insisting and repeating your ignorant propaganda doesn't make it come true. Observe: www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-save-act-bills-would-still-block-millions-americans-voting
10. For your education: www.clasp.org/doge-tracker/
Before former Postmaster General Louis DeJoy stepped down in spring 2025, he signed an agreement with Elon Musk's DOGE team for a cost-cutting review.
www.apnews.com/article/us-postal-service-doge-agreement-daf3bf54fa0718908791fcb368b4d9d8
11. Interesting attitude, given that your Cheeto Jeezus was elected TWICE incorporating mail-in voting ..... as did the "red wave" of the House by Republicans in 2004. Can you say hypocrites and liars, boys and girls?
12. PAY ATTENTION, YOU LYING SOS! I was discussing the system of re-registering to vote as put out by the Save America Act .... NOT about you toddling done to the local voting booth. Jeez!
13.
For your education: the official retirement age for Americans is 65 to 67 in order to collect SocSec. Early retirement is 62. Check your census from last year to see how many fall into that age range. And what you "highly doubt" isn't worth a piss in the wind to the reality of life:www.ncoa.org/article/older-adult-poverty-still-an-unacceptable-14-percent/
14. Because dullards like you consistently have mental flatulence regarding social/political/financial topics that you try to equate with valid, documented facts. And when cornered, you blow smoke as to exactly what you base your assertions on .... while at the same time dismissing any source material that doesn't jibe with your beliefs as "faux news" or with "liberal bias". But now faced with the glaring reality of the failure of your neocon/teabagger/maga/fibbertarian/alt-reich policies, you now deem ANY source as of no importance .... DESPITE THE SOURCES BEING THE BEDROCK OF YOUR BELIEFS FOR YEARS. But like your Cheeto Jeezus, the nano-second there is a public disagreement, all is disowned, demonized, smeared and thrown under the proverbial bus. Psst, you're losing the public support .... keep it up!
15. Yeah, I know you don't understand .... you're either willfully ignorant or genuinely ignorant (with a heavy dose of insipid stubbornness). Carry on.
Taichiliberal
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My mom raised me not to make fun of the intellectually challenged, but God forgive me it's so much fun I can't help myself!
Argument of the Stone fallacy. Obviously, you can't answer gfm's question.
Argument of the Stone fallacy.
DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!
False authority fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy.
DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!
Lie. Synthesis. Argument from randU fallacy.
Still claiming you are too stupid to register to vote?
Still claiming you are too stupid to register to vote?
Very good. Unlike most lefty loonies, you actually understand what this acronym means.
In a conversation any words may be used, Libby. YOU don't get to declare an 'official list'.
Insisting and repeating your ignorant propaganda doesn't make it come true.
None, other than illegal aliens. Your propaganda opinion piece doesn't matter.
Random wanderings ignored.
The President is not elected by popular vote Libby. The fact that a Republican happens to get elected doesn't absolve the Democrats of their election fraud.11. Interesting attitude, given that your Cheeto Jeezus was elected TWICE incorporating mail-in voting ..... as did the "red wave" of the House by Republicans in 2004. Can you say hypocrites and liars, boys and girls?
What 'system of re-registering'?
Still think you're too stupid to register to vote, eh?13.
www.ncoa.org/article/older-adult-poverty-still-an-unacceptable-14-percent/[/COLOR]
Okay. Let's look at the documented fact...the SAVE bill itself. It calls you a liar, Libby.
I see you are STILL trying to claim you are too stupid to register to vote.
You can't make the election fraud that Democrats have done just disappear, Libby.
Assumption of victory fallacy, Stooge.
They MUST conform to federal law and the Constitution of the United States, moron.
Mantra 1a. Lame.
ZenMode
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Trump casts a mail ballot again in Florida even as he calls the method 'cheating'
The president cast a mail ballot in an upcoming Florida special election, according to county records.
www.nbcnews.com
The president cast a mail ballot in an upcoming Florida special election, according to county records.
Trump casts a mail ballot again in Florida even as he calls the method 'cheating'
The president cast a mail ballot in an upcoming Florida special election, according to county records.
www.nbcnews.com
Yeah, but Citizens don't vote for democrats... DUH!!!
83% of Americans support national voter ID. 17% - all Marxists - oppose because voter ID stops illegal aliens from voting.
That is ALL this is - there is nothing more. We want free and fair elections, but you Marxists are toxic and can't "win" without massive fraud.
Illegal aliens? True.
Of course there are no American citizens who don't have ID. We all drive, buy the occasional drink, ride on airplanes, file taxes, all of which require photo ID.
But you want illegal aliens to vote, because you hate democracy and hate America. You are part of a 17% fringe who demands you be able to override the majority because your Reich lusts for power and needs illegals to get it.
