A human quality that might explain why Neanderthals went extinct

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In another thread, the subject of various sciences came up. This is about social and psychological sciences.
The short version is that humans, for a few different reasons, traveled in larger tribe than Neanderthals which allowed for more genetic diversity within the tribe.


One Extremely Human Quality May Help Explain Why Neanderthals Went Extinct​

However, the Altai Neanderthals often had one version of each gene. As the study reports, that low diversity suggests they lived in small bands — probably averaging just 20 people....

...If humans lived in bigger groups than Neanderthals, it could have given us advantages.

Neanderthals, strong and skilled with spears were likely good fighters. Lightly-built humans probably countered by using bows to attack at range.

But even if Neanderthals and humans were equally dangerous in battle, if humans also had a numeric advantage, they could bring more fighters and absorb more losses.


Big societies have other, subtler advantages. Larger bands have more brains. More brains to solve problems, remember lore about animals and plants, and techniques for crafting tools and sewing clothing. Just as big groups have higher genetic diversity, they’ll have higher diversity of ideas.

And more people means more connections. Network connections increase exponentially with network size, following Metcalfe’s Law. A 20-person band has 190 possible connections between members, while 60 people have 1770 possible connections.

Information flows through these connections: News about people and movements of animals; toolmaking techniques; and words, songs and myths. Plus the group’s behaviour becomes increasingly complex.
 
Thinking that we understand what happened deep into pre-history is representative of the hubris of the Modern Morons.
 
Humans are fundamentally lazy....as Steve Jobs pointed out this is not a slur....trying to get by doing the missions with less work as wisdom....it pushes us to figure out how to do it a better way.

Also as the Greeks understood the really bad thing for humans is not the hard life....it is too easy a life.
 
In another thread, the subject of various sciences came up. This is about social and psychological sciences.
The short version is that humans, for a few different reasons, traveled in larger tribe than Neanderthals which allowed for more genetic diversity within the tribe.


One Extremely Human Quality May Help Explain Why Neanderthals Went Extinct​

However, the Altai Neanderthals often had one version of each gene. As the study reports, that low diversity suggests they lived in small bands — probably averaging just 20 people....

...If humans lived in bigger groups than Neanderthals, it could have given us advantages.

Neanderthals, strong and skilled with spears were likely good fighters. Lightly-built humans probably countered by using bows to attack at range.

But even if Neanderthals and humans were equally dangerous in battle, if humans also had a numeric advantage, they could bring more fighters and absorb more losses.


Big societies have other, subtler advantages. Larger bands have more brains. More brains to solve problems, remember lore about animals and plants, and techniques for crafting tools and sewing clothing. Just as big groups have higher genetic diversity, they’ll have higher diversity of ideas.

And more people means more connections. Network connections increase exponentially with network size, following Metcalfe’s Law. A 20-person band has 190 possible connections between members, while 60 people have 1770 possible connections.

Information flows through these connections: News about people and movements of animals; toolmaking techniques; and words, songs and myths. Plus the group’s behaviour becomes increasingly complex.
That's a great article :thumbsup:
 
So we must stick together in large numbers and we will defeat the magas. Sounds good to me!
MAGAs seem to be doing a pretty good job of defeating themselves, we just need to continue to give them the rope.

It WOULD help if Dems would got their shit together a little more....
 
The article is a little confusing. On one hand it talks about genetic diversity being an issue. Then it talks about group size and individual size when fighting humans
 
Humans are fundamentally lazy....as Steve Jobs pointed out this is not a slur....trying to get by doing the missions with less work as wisdom....it pushes us to figure out how to do it a better way.

Also as the Greeks understood the really bad thing for humans is not the hard life....it is too easy a life.
but not for you. you deserve it.
 
The article is a little confusing. On one hand it talks about genetic diversity being an issue. Then it talks about group size and individual size when fighting humans
I was wondering exactly how they knew Homo Sapiens traveled in larger groups than Neanderthals
 
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