A tale of 2 sickbeds: Health care in U.K. vs. U.S.

And if the British would just spend a tiny bit more on their health care system (9% of the GDP instead of 7%), they would be able to have health care on the level of France.
 
Does the UK give free medial care and school to their illegal immigrants? Our hospitals on borrder states are going broke because of illegals--right now.
 
theMAJORITY said:
Does the UK give free medial care and school to their illegal immigrants? Our hospitals on borrder states are going broke because of illegals--right now.
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You mean like Tiana?

Of course, it would be a denial of human rights to prevent immigrants and tourists from getting health care.
 
Watermark said:
You mean like Tiana?

Of course, it would be a denial of human rights to prevent immigrants and tourists from getting health care.
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The human rights belong to us in this country. They have their own rights granted to them by their great government.-If you want to talk about world human rights, instead of slave labor exploitation,---go look at the terrorists who support obammie the commie, and see what they do. -They (illegals here) are allowed to break our laws---in the first place. Oh--yea--your a commie, I forgot. You think it is their human right to sponge off US citizens, even though they are not our citizens? Your liberial flawed logic base is at work here. Start from the beginning to avoid confusion in the future. Being nice, and being stupid share a common border line. Your on the wrong side most of the time---because you don't start from the beginning--to see BS when it is forced down your throat. Your comment is nothing more than regurtated BS you are told, because there is no intent of stopping free loading exploited slave labor in this country. Ever wonder why you have never heard any stats on how much up to 30 million illegals cost us--and the crime they are now producing? Ya never hear that part--do ya. The kidnappings, the murders, the drugs---you speak of human rights--our boder control officers in prision for killing a drug runner in a fight--------anything but American rights to you kool-aid drinking commies is what your really saying---and you don't even know it.
 
theMAJORITY said:
The human rights belong to us in this country. They have their own rights granted to them by their great government.
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The constitution grants rights to people, not to citizens. Anyone in the United States has freedom of speech, even if they are here illegally. Human rights are granted to you because you are human, they are not conditional, and the government is supposed to be the protector, not the granter of these rights.
 
how did it decimate his bank account in america? because no insurance.

Dont socialize our medicine. take MA health care reform as a model for whole country. Its a great compromise.
 
Watermark said:
The constitution grants rights to people, not to citizens. Anyone in the United States has freedom of speech, even if they are here illegally. Human rights are granted to you because you are human, they are not conditional, and the government is supposed to be the protector, not the granter of these rights.
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Back to the beginning---if you break the law--you lose certain rights. As a ward of the state, you lose certain rights. We give prisioners health care--but they are in jail, and a ward of the state. like 400,000 illegals in our jails that costs us about 19 billion/ year.

Back to the beginning again--if your here illegally--get legal using the path we have now--or get out. we can't afford you. Their own Mexican government can't even afford to take them back. THEY GOT DUMPED ON US, and we only took it for slave labor.

You pay for them.

What law can I break--and get free health care? What country can I go to--and get free health care.


your brain is not your own.
 
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theMAJORITY said:
Back to the beginning---if you break the law--you lose certain rights. As a ward of the state, you lose certain rights.

What law can I break--and get free health care? What country can I go to--and get free health care.


your brain is not your own.
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You could go to the UK and get free health care.
 
Chapdog said:
how did it decimate his bank account in america? because no insurance.

Dont socialize our medicine. take MA health care reform as a model for whole country. Its a great compromise.
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Is the MA system private solutions? (I don't know) I have a hard time believing that out of MA. They are about as nuts as CA IMO.
 
theMAJORITY said:
Is the MA system private solutions? (I don't know) I have a hard time believing that out of MA. They are about as nuts as CA IMO.
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Its all private.
there is a state span that is pretty cheap available. the cost for premium is supplemented for people in lower income levels. If you dont get insurance either from company, on own, or thru state you lose your tax deduction in the state.

Now could u imagine at federal level. No individual deduction if you dont buy a plan?

MA has highest insured percent of populace in he country.
 
Chapdog said:
Its all private.
there is a state span that is pretty cheap available. the cost for premium is supplemented for people in lower income levels. If you dont get insurance either from company, on own, or thru state you lose your tax deduction in the state.

Now could u imagine at federal level. No individual deduction if you dont buy a plan?

MA has highest insured percent of populace in he country.
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Some people don't want to pay for any health insurance. Mostly young healthy people who are more interested in other things. Those people are taxed more, to pay for others. That is socialism--not private.

The state span is private? Suplemented by who?

Define either "two" companys please. Does not sound to competitive with only two.

"On own" sounds like buying your own privatly--got that.

Through the state is not private--it is socialism, paid by taxes of people who also pay for their own, or those who don't even want it. As those numbers drop (people who pay for your own) our health care service will start dropping along with their wages, as it can not support itself in the long run---just like government mortgages, SSI, Medicare and medicade, s-chip, public school (add any other gove run agency here). My fear.



See--now just because you tell me it is 100% private does not mean it is true.---I have a problem with "100% private claim" every time you mention the state, and words like "supplimented"--ya know?
 
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I prefer the U.S. health care system.

It was a joy to plead with insurance companies to please accept an uninsured girlfriend who had a history of cancer.
 
theMAJORITY said:
Some people don't want to pay for any health insurance. Mostly young healthy people who are more interested in other things. Those people are taxed more, to pay for others. That is socialism--not private.

The state span is private? Suplemented by who?

Define either "two" companys please. Does not sound to competitive with only two.

"On own" sounds like buying your own privatly--got that.

Through the state is not private--it is socialism, paid by taxes of people who also pay for their own, or those who don't even want it. As those numbers drop (people who pay for your own) our health care service will start dropping along with their wages, as it can not support itself in the long run---just like government mortgages, SSI, Medicare and medicade, s-chip, public school (add any other gove run agency here). My fear.



See--now just because you tell me it is 100% private does not mean it is true.---I have a problem with "100% private claim" every time you mention the state, and words like "supplimented"--ya know?
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that would be fine that young healthy people dont want to pay for insurance and they would just lose there tax deduction and that money would go into the state medical fund. The problem is that those who dont buy insurance to save money still go to hospital... fact. So what do u propose is a better alternative to handle all those uninsured that still use the hospitals?
 
Chapdog said:
that would be fine that young healthy people dont want to pay for insurance and they would just lose there tax deduction and that money would go into the state medical fund. The problem is that those who dont buy insurance to save money still go to hospital... fact. So what do u propose is a better alternative to handle all those uninsured that still use the hospitals?
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Clearly we should turn them away at the emergency room.
 
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