Act 4. Scene II

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William Shakespeare » King Henry VI Part 2 » Act 4. Scene II
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.


Interesting email I received.....

The Democrat Party has become the Lawyers' Party. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are lawyers. Bill Clinton and Michelle Obama are lawyers. John Edwards, the other former Democrat candidate for president, is a lawyer, and so is his wife, Elizabeth. Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate). Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school. Look at the Democrat Party in Congress: the Majority Leader in each house is a lawyer.

The Republican Party is different. President Bush and Vice President Cheney were not lawyers, but businessmen. The leaders of the Republican Revolution were not lawyers. Newt Gingrich was a history professor; Tom Delay was an exterminator; and, Dick Armey was an economist. House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer, not a lawyer. The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.

Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago and who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976.


The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work. The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich.

The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America . And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers' Party, grow.

Against whom do Democrats rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation.

This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their side.

Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then the role of the legal system in our life becomes all-consuming.


Some Americans become 'adverse parties' of our very government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers.

Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions; we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big. When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay, then the power of lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing.

We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change, real reform, or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy.

Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and business.

Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work.

Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only make our problems worse.

 

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Wasn't Frist one of the ones who tried to overrule the courts about Terri Schiavo?

I know Delay was involved in that fiasco.

If they know about working and building, why did they interfere where they shouldn't have and ignore the people who had done the medical research?

 

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You are correct....
Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), a renowned heart surgeon before becoming Senate majority leader, gave his opinion that based on a review of video footage that Doctors might have erred in saying Terri Schiavo is in a "persistent vegetative state."
His opinion was that "She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli."

As part of the court-ordered medical exam, six hours of video of Schiavo were taped and filed at the Pinellas County courthouse. The tape included Schiavo with her mother and neurologist William Hammesfahr. The entire tape was viewed by Judge Greer, who wrote, Schiavo "clearly does not consistently respond to her mother".

From that six hours of video, the Schindlers and their supporters produced six clips totaling almost six minutes and released those clips to public websites.
This is most likely what Frist viewed...

Judge Greer ruled that Schiavo was in a PVS, and was beyond hope of significant improvement.
And thats the short version of the story .......without out left-wing spin, or clever innuendo..
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And some other facts of the man whose charactor you want to smear, if your interested....

received the degree of Doctor of Medicine with honors in 1978.

Frist joined the lab of W. John Powell Jr., M.D. at Massachusetts General Hospital in 1977, where he continued his training in cardiovascular physiology.

1978 to become a resident in surgery at Massachusetts General Hospital.

In 1983, he spent time at Southampton General Hospital, Southampton, England as senior registrar in cardiothoracic surgery.

He returned to Massachusetts General in 1984 as chief resident and fellow in cardiothoracic surgery.

From 1985 until 1986, Frist was senior fellow and chief resident in cardiac transplant service and cardiothoracic surgery at the Stanford University School of Medicine.

After completing his fellowship, he became a faculty member at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, where he began a heart and lung transplantation program.

He also became staff surgeon at the Nashville Veterans Administration Hospital. In 1989, he founded the Vanderbilt Transplant Center.

He is currently licensed as a physician, and is board certified in both general surgery and thoracic surgery. He has performed over 150 heart transplants and lung transplants, including pediatric heart transplants and combined heart and lung transplants.

 

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And you mentioned Tom Delay...

March 21, 2005 the U.S. House passed a bill which Tom DeLay supported to have a federal court review the Terri Schiavo case.

The Fourteenth Amendment, gives Congress power to enact legislation to insure that no state, including Florida, may deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.``

The objective of the bill was not to alter Florida`s law, nor meddle with what Florida`s Courts had decided, nor make a decision for Terri as Judge Greer did.

It was merely intended to have a federal court review the face of the court record to confirm if Terri Schiavo received due process of Florida`s law and was afforded all rights guaranteed her under Florida`s Constitution, before Judge Greer`s decision to starve Terri to death could be carried out to its intended end.

You can and probably will spin this with crap from some leftwing blog but at lease you will know the real facts.....

 

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You are correct....
Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), a renowned heart surgeon before becoming Senate majority leader, gave his opinion that based on a review of video footage that Doctors might have erred in saying Terri Schiavo is in a "persistent vegetative state."
His opinion was that "She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli."

As part of the court-ordered medical exam, six hours of video of Schiavo were taped and filed at the Pinellas County courthouse. The tape included Schiavo with her mother and neurologist William Hammesfahr. The entire tape was viewed by Judge Greer, who wrote, Schiavo "clearly does not consistently respond to her mother".

From that six hours of video, the Schindlers and their supporters produced six clips totaling almost six minutes and released those clips to public websites.
This is most likely what Frist viewed...

Judge Greer ruled that Schiavo was in a PVS, and was beyond hope of significant improvement.
And thats the short version of the story .......without out left-wing spin, or clever innuendo..
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And some other facts of the man whose charactor you want to smear, if your interested....

received the degree of Doctor of Medicine with honors in 1978.

Frist joined the lab of W. John Powell Jr., M.D. at Massachusetts General Hospital in 1977, where he continued his training in cardiovascular physiology.

1978 to become a resident in surgery at Massachusetts General Hospital.

In 1983, he spent time at Southampton General Hospital, Southampton, England as senior registrar in cardiothoracic surgery.

He returned to Massachusetts General in 1984 as chief resident and fellow in cardiothoracic surgery.

From 1985 until 1986, Frist was senior fellow and chief resident in cardiac transplant service and cardiothoracic surgery at the Stanford University School of Medicine.

After completing his fellowship, he became a faculty member at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, where he began a heart and lung transplantation program.

He also became staff surgeon at the Nashville Veterans Administration Hospital. In 1989, he founded the Vanderbilt Transplant Center.

He is currently licensed as a physician, and is board certified in both general surgery and thoracic surgery. He has performed over 150 heart transplants and lung transplants, including pediatric heart transplants and combined heart and lung transplants.

Sounds like a well educated and gifted doctor.

Which makes me more confused about why he thought his brief viewing of a video made him capable of offering a medical opinion.

I am not getting info from a left-wing anything.

I just see someone with a medical degree and extensive medical experience as someone who would not think watching a video is a substitute for actual medical exams and test, as the staff doctors had performed. And yet Frist thought his opinion was more informed than the long list of doctors who pronounced Terri Schiavo as beyond hope.

 

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anyone who gives up being a gifted DR and helping people to become a politician drops a lot in my opinion.

 

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Sounds like a well educated and gifted doctor.

Which makes me more confused about why he thought his brief viewing of a video made him capable of offering a medical opinion.

I am not getting info from a left-wing anything.

I just see someone with a medical degree and extensive medical experience as someone who would not think watching a video is a substitute for actual medical exams and test, as the staff doctors had performed. And yet Frist thought his opinion was more informed than the long list of doctors who pronounced Terri Schiavo as beyond hope.

And I agree with you to a degree....

From that six hours of video, the Schindlers and their supporters produced six clips totaling almost six minutes and released those clips to public websites.

This is most likely what Frist based his opinion on...he would not have access to the court ordered 6 hours of video....

The Schindlers and their supporters would obviously only let the public see those video clips that supported their viewpoint...thus, Frist's opinion....
The spin would have you believe this was some kind of medical diagnosis...
it was an opinion based on watching a one-sided video....

I don't defend this crap from Frist...but I understand it....he should have kept his opinion to himself and realized that as a doctor and a government representative how it could be and was used...he made himself look foolish....