An Article for Asshate

[Minister of Truth]

Since outsourcing and manufacturing are his two big issues, I thought he would appreciate seeing this introduction to a recent Seattle Business Magazine issue written by the editor, about the possible return of manufacturing jobs to the US.

http://www.seattlebusinessmag.com/article/back-future

Back to the Future
Leslie D. Helm | July 2011 | FROM THE PRINT EDITION

Ask a smart young college student about her career plans and she might talk about business, medicine or law. On rare occasions, you might find someone interested in engineering. What you aren’t likely to find is a student interested in manufacturing. That’s too bad, because after two decades of tough times, during which the sector has shed millions of workers, the future of manufacturing is looking bright again.

For one thing, the cost differential between the United States and the rest of the world is shrinking thanks to rising productivity in American factories, a weaker dollar, higher wages in China and climbing transportation costs. That’s the conclusion of a study by the Boston Consulting Group, which says that by 2015 American companies will find it makes more economic sense to expand production in the U.S. rather than to build offshore.

 

[Kamala Trump]

We still need to implement steep tariffs on chinese slave goods.

Protectionism will save us all from the new world order.

 

[Lowaicue]

We still need to implement steep tariffs on chinese slave goods.

Protectionism will save us all from the new world order.

Which is it, increased Chinese labour costs or Chinese slave labour? Can't have both.

 

[Kamala Trump]

Which is it, increased Chinese labour costs or Chinese slave labour? Can't have both.

It's chinese slave labour.

 

[Lowaicue]

It's chinese slave labour.

Tell me please, what products for sale in the US, are made with Chinese slave labour?
Do we agree that slavery means the supply of food and accommodation only? Do you have an alternative definition?

 

[Kamala Trump]

Tell me please, what products for sale in the US, are made with Chinese slave labour?
Do we agree that slavery means the supply of food and accommodation only? Do you have an alternative definition?

Most products are made with chinese slavery these days.

It's wage slavery.

Labor from totalitarian nations should not be allowed for any products imported into the u.s. Profitizing slavery only degrades freedom around the globe.

 

[Lowaicue]

Most products are made with chinese slavery these days.

It's wage slavery.

Labor from totalitarian nations should not be allowed for any products imported into the u.s. Profitizing slavery only degrades freedom around the globe.

You are judging according to western standards. However a Chinese factory is not a factory like you may know. My friend has just moved to a new factory in Dong guan. The factory supplies accommodation, three meals per day and all holidays and rates in accordance with the law. Wages have increased something like 35% in the last year. However, competition being what it is, my friend pays about 10% more than the governments recommendations.
The workers are mostly rural workers who and earn about ten times what they earn in the countryside.
Most American companies personally audit their suppliers checking on maternity leave, overtime rates, hygiene etc etc etc.
American importers insist that prices remain the same despite increased costs. In fact they will do everything they can to reduce prices.
Other countries are now taking some of the Chinese work and, believe me, some of them DO abuse workers.
So before jumping check your facts and if you dont wish to buy Chinese made products then dont. Its easy.

 

[Lowaicue]

Most products are made with chinese slavery these days.

It's wage slavery.

Labor from totalitarian nations should not be allowed for any products imported into the u.s. Profitizing slavery only degrades freedom around the globe.

You are judging according to western standards. However a Chinese factory is not a factory like you may know. My friend has just moved to a new factory in Dong guan. The factory supplies accommodation, three meals per day and all holidays and rates in accordance with the law. Wages have increased something like 35% in the last year. However, competition being what it is, my friend pays about 10% more than the governments recommendations.
The workers are mostly rural workers who and earn about ten times what they earn in the countryside.
Most American companies personally audit their suppliers checking on maternity leave, overtime rates, hygiene etc etc etc.
American importers insist that prices remain the same despite increased costs. In fact they will do everything they can to reduce prices.
Other countries are now taking some of the Chinese work and, believe me, some of them DO abuse workers.
So before jumping check your facts and if you dont wish to buy Chinese made products then dont. Its easy.

 

[Canceled2]

Chinese factory abuse of workers- a quick google

 

[Kamala Trump]

You are judging according to western standards. However a Chinese factory is not a factory like you may know. My friend has just moved to a new factory in Dong guan. The factory supplies accommodation, three meals per day and all holidays and rates in accordance with the law. Wages have increased something like 35% in the last year. However, competition being what it is, my friend pays about 10% more than the governments recommendations.
The workers are mostly rural workers who and earn about ten times what they earn in the countryside.
Most American companies personally audit their suppliers checking on maternity leave, overtime rates, hygiene etc etc etc.
American importers insist that prices remain the same despite increased costs. In fact they will do everything they can to reduce prices.
Other countries are now taking some of the Chinese work and, believe me, some of them DO abuse workers.
So before jumping check your facts and if you dont wish to buy Chinese made products then dont. Its easy.

Wow. From 3 cents to 4 cents! wow cool. Progress. And yes i judge according to western standards which place a premium on freedom and egalitarianism, not hierarchy, cruelty and oppression.

It's not easy to buy a non chinese products. It's been a long western tradition to constrain markets within a framework of other humane considerations. That's why child porn is illegal.

 

[The Dude]

I have to agree with the now 4x laid off asshat.
It's slave wages, please spare me the increase % so now they make $2.50 a day instead of $2.00.

We and prob the toothless brits have sold out our poor to the lowest payer.

 

[Kamala Trump]

I have to agree with the now 4x laid off asshat.
It's slave wages, please spare me the increase % so now they make $2.50 a day instead of $2.00.

We and prob the toothless brits have sold out our poor to the lowest payer.

Thank you for your honesty, candor, and candidness. Thou art not really a polesmoker as previously indicated. :^)

 

[The Dude]

I bet you could start some kind of new tech/social media site and make millions.

 

[Kamala Trump]

I bet you could start some kind of new tech/social media site and make millions.

I prefer to let damo profit from my genius. He's good people. He can tell you about all the dough he's raking in.

 

[Lowaicue]

I have to agree with the now 4x laid off asshat.
It's slave wages, please spare me the increase % so now they make $2.50 a day instead of $2.00.

We and prob the toothless brits have sold out our poor to the lowest payer.

Workers at my friends factories get Y2200 per month. Government regs state Y2000 (not totally sure but get the gist) They get free accomodation and free travel and free food. They get DOUBLE time for overtime and time off for local festivals, high days and holidays. Their normal working week is now 40 hours.
OK Its nowhere near what we earn in HK or US or UK but five years ago the everage monthly rate was Y500!! Have you had a four fold increase in your salary? remember also that the cost of living is, in comparison with yours, negligible. Most of these people can send 50% of their salaries home to their villages so their kids get schooling and their families get a few comforts.
Many still get paid thirteen months and go home with bonuses and compensation if made redundant.
So before you attempt a comparison make sure that its apples with apples.

 

[Kamala Trump]

Workers at my friends factories get Y2200 per month. Government regs state Y2000 (not totally sure but get the gist) They get free accomodation and free travel and free food. They get DOUBLE time for overtime and time off for local festivals, high days and holidays. Their normal working week is now 40 hours.
OK Its nowhere near what we earn in HK or US or UK but five years ago the everage monthly rate was Y500!! Have you had a four fold increase in your salary? remember also that the cost of living is, in comparison with yours, negligible. Most of these people can send 50% of their salaries home to their villages so their kids get schooling and their families get a few comforts.
Many still get paid thirteen months and go home with bonuses and compensation if made redundant.
So before you attempt a comparison make sure that its apples with apples.

Slaves also get free food. And again from 1 cents to 5 cents is not a meaningful increase.

 

[Kamala Trump]

http://www.laogai.org/

 

[The Dude]

slave labor in Asia, no question

 

[Kamala Trump]

slave labor in Asia, no question

Yes. And we used to boycott nations who acted like this. Now we're told it's just good business and we should learn to profit from it. This is a significant paradigm shift.

 

[Lowaicue]

Slaves also get free food. And again from 1 cents to 5 cents is not a meaningful increase.

How do your own itinerant workers fare? What about the legal and illegal immigrants who work your farms? Remove the plank from thy own eye...