Anglo-Saxons weren’t real

[Tranquillus in Exile]

The Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic at the University of Cambridge, England, is teaching students that Anglo-Saxons did not exist. Its teaching aims to “dismantle the basis of myths of nationalism” by explaining that the Anglo-Saxons were not a distinct ethnic group. “One concern has been to address recent concerns over use of the term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ and its perceived connection to ethnic/racial English identity.”

Otoh, a statement by more than 70 academics in 2020 argued that the furore over the term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ was an American import: “The conditions in which the term is encountered are very different in the USA from elsewhere. In the UK the period has been carefully presented and discussed over many years.

“The term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ is historically authentic in the sense that from the 8th century it was used externally to refer to a dominant population in southern Britain.”

You can read a fuller account and some dissenting views here (available without a pay wall when I checked):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ent-real-cambridge-student-fight-nationalism/


The language or group of dialects spoken in most of England 1000-1500 years ago should preferably be called Old English rather than Anglo-Saxon, because that is historically more accurate. The people who spoke it called it Englisc, never Seaxisc. But if the Anglo-Saxons didn’t exist, who spoke it?

I posted this here because the motives are clearly political not scholarly. Will Cambridge University students be better informed as a result?

 

[Cypress]

I have read that the original 6th century settlers from Friesland, Saxony, and the Danish peninsula did not call themselves Anglo-Saxons. The term was a conceit that came into favor in Victorian England, because it dovetailed nicely with 19th century British imperialism and the conception of an ancient and unique English heritage of a superior race with Germanic roots

 

[Uncensored2008]

The attack on reality marches on.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I have read that the original 6th century settlers from Friesland, Saxony, and the Danish peninsula did not call themselves Anglo-Saxons. The term was a conceit that came into favor in Victorian England, because it dovetailed nicely with British imperialism and the conception of an ancient English heritage of a unique superior race of Germanic ancestry

The Anglos were the native English. The Saxons were Germanic peoples.

They interspersed giving rise theo the term "Anglo-Saxon."

The left is again attempting to erase white people from history.

No doubt we well soon be told Rome never existed - or was and African kingdom.

George Orwell predicted you.

 

[Cypress]

The Anglos were the native English. The Saxons were Germanic peoples.

They interspersed giving rise theo the term "Anglo-Saxon."

The left is again attempting to erase white people from history.

No doubt we well soon be told Rome never existed - or was and African kingdom.

George Orwell predicted you.

They were not "native" English. The native Britons of the island were displaced by invaders and settlers from Friesland, Saxony, and the Danish peninsula in the 5th and 6th centuries, and these people only later started being collectively called Anglo-Saxons.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

I have read that the original 6th century settlers from Friesland, Saxony, and the Danish peninsula did not call themselves Anglo-Saxons. The term was a conceit that came into favor in Victorian England ...

< The term Anglo-Saxon seems to have been first used by Continental writers in the late 8th century to distinguish the Saxons of Britain from those of the European continent. The name formed part of a title, rex Angul-Saxonum (“king of the Anglo-Saxons”), which was sometimes used by King Alfred of Wessex (reigned 871–99). >

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anglo-Saxon

 

[Walt]

The Anglos were the native English. The Saxons were Germanic peoples.

The original people in England were the Celtic Britons, not the "Anglos." The Angles were a tribe from Anglia(today southern Denmark). There were supposedly three tribes that invaded England, taking it from the Keltic Britons, they were the Saxons(from just south of today's Denmark), the Angles, and the Jutes(from Jutland, today northern Denmark).

The left is again attempting to erase white people from history.

The irony here is that Censored is trying to erase the Celtic people. Are the Celtic people not white enough for him?

The transformation from a Celtic country to a Germanic country happened during the darkest part of the Dark Ages. We have few if any records about that time. It is hard to say what happened.

 

[Cypress]

< The term Anglo-Saxon seems to have been first used by Continental writers in the late 8th century to distinguish the Saxons of Britain from those of the European continent. The name formed part of a title, rex Angul-Saxonum (“king of the Anglo-Saxons”), which was sometimes used by King Alfred of Wessex (reigned 871–99). >

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anglo-Saxon

The reality is the English are mongrels, a mixture of French, Germanic, and Scandinavian settlers who made their way to Britain.

But nationalists desire a unifying origin myth.

The Romans wanted their origin to be the Trojans.

The Italian city states wanted to trace their origin to imperial Rome.

And the English want a unique national origin myth linked to a story of racially superior Anglo-Saxon conquerers of Germanic roots

 

[Hawkeye10]

The rewriting of history to conform with the WOKE religion is picking up.

 

[Nordberg]

The rewriting of history to conform with the WOKE religion is picking up.

It is not about that.

 

[Matt Dillon]

< The term Anglo-Saxon seems to have been first used by Continental writers in the late 8th century to distinguish the Saxons of Britain from those of the European continent. The name formed part of a title, rex Angul-Saxonum (“king of the Anglo-Saxons”), which was sometimes used by King Alfred of Wessex (reigned 871–99). >

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anglo-Saxon

I'll have to cross-check that with a non-internet editable source, but thx.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They were not "native" English. The native Britons of the island were displaced by invaders and settlers from Friesland, Saxony, and the Danish peninsula in the 5th and 6th centuries, and these people only later started being collectively called Anglo-Saxons.

The Danes - that is Vikings - came much later, 8th century or so.

The Saxons came as you said - the English - Anglo (from Anglia) were already there. The Britons were another tribe - but generally the same as the Anglians - the Anglos.

You wokesters are attempting to rewrite history in order to erase Der Juden for history. You will no doubt claim the Britons were black, right? The hated whites came and stole their lands...

 

[Uncensored2008]

The original people in England were the Celtic Britons, not the "Anglos." The Angles were a tribe from Anglia(today southern Denmark). There were supposedly three tribes that invaded England, taking it from the Keltic Britons, they were the Saxons(from just south of today's Denmark), the Angles, and the Jutes(from Jutland, today northern Denmark).



The irony here is that Censored is trying to erase the Celtic people. Are the Celtic people not white enough for him?

The transformation from a Celtic country to a Germanic country happened during the darkest part of the Dark Ages. We have few if any records about that time. It is hard to say what happened.

Anglia, a region of Eastern England encompases Norfolk, Suffolk, and Colchester,

The Saxons become common on the Isle in the 4th century. I say common because the "invasion" appears to be much like the invasion Mexico is staging against the USA - mass migration rather than an armed overthrow. The Viking invasion was 500 years later.

 

[Cypress]

The Danes - that is Vikings - came much later, 8th century or so.

The Saxons came as you said - the English - Anglo (from Anglia) were already there. The Britons were another tribe - but generally the same as the Anglians - the Anglos.

You wokesters are attempting to rewrite history in order to erase Der Juden for history. You will no doubt claim the Britons were black, right? The hated whites came and stole their lands...

^ Somebody knows how to consult Google and then race back here to present it as their own innate knowledge

The English haven't really been "Anglo Saxon" in a thousand years. The Norse invasions, the Dane Law, and the Norman conquest ensured that the English as we know them are ethnic mongrels, and even the language is a mash up of Germanic, Danish, French, Norse, and Latin words.

The glory of the Anglo-Saxons was resurrected during the Victorian Age because imperial Britain desired an origin myth that would justify the superior racial nature of the English.

 

[Uncensored2008]

^ Somebody knows how to consult Google and then race back here to present it as their own innate knowledge

The English haven't really been "Anglo Saxon" in a thousand years. The Norse invasions, the Dane Law, and the Norman conquest ensured that the English as we know them are ethnic mongrels, and even the language is a mash up of Germanic, Danish, French, Norse, and Latin words.

The glory of the Anglo-Saxons was resurrected during the Victorian Age because imperial Britain desired an origin myth that would justify the superior racial nature of the English.

Are you going to claim that the Britons were Black and that the white devils stole the land from them?

Come on, you are - aren't you?

 

[Yakuda]

The Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic at the University of Cambridge, England, is teaching students that Anglo-Saxons did not exist. Its teaching aims to “dismantle the basis of myths of nationalism” by explaining that the Anglo-Saxons were not a distinct ethnic group. “One concern has been to address recent concerns over use of the term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ and its perceived connection to ethnic/racial English identity.”

Otoh, a statement by more than 70 academics in 2020 argued that the furore over the term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ was an American import: “The conditions in which the term is encountered are very different in the USA from elsewhere. In the UK the period has been carefully presented and discussed over many years.

“The term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ is historically authentic in the sense that from the 8th century it was used externally to refer to a dominant population in southern Britain.”

You can read a fuller account and some dissenting views here (available without a pay wall when I checked):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ent-real-cambridge-student-fight-nationalism/


The language or group of dialects spoken in most of England 1000-1500 years ago should preferably be called Old English rather than Anglo-Saxon, because that is historically more accurate. The people who spoke it called it Englisc, never Seaxisc. But if the Anglo-Saxons didn’t exist, who spoke it?

I posted this here because the motives are clearly political not scholarly. Will Cambridge University students be better informed as a result?

You know who is real though? Leftist idiots.

 

[Cypress]

Are you going to claim that the Britons were Black and that the white devils stole the land from them?

Come on, you are - aren't you?

Explain presicely why I would claim the native Britons were black. This train of thought has gotta have MAGA written all over it.