Are Republicans children?
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cawacko
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A few of them did say that and its pretty pathetic. As for Nancy Pelosi claiming to want bi-partisan support she needs to read up on her Dale Carnegie.
cawacko
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LOL!!! Ok Jarod. If you are a leader and you are attempting to get people to vote with you or work with you etc. you think the best way to do that is to start off by insulting them?
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Yes they are children.
uscitizen
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Are they adults there to do a job ? Or spoiled kids getting their panties in a wad ?
Can any of the libtards explain why 94 Democrats did not vote for this if it was such a great plan? This bill could have passed w/o Republican votes. Why didn’t Pelosi get 12 more votes? Your party is in the leadership but you blame the minority party. Nice leadership skills. Reflective of a weak party with no guts or brains.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
It was a coalition of Reagan conservatives and Blue Dog Democrats. Basically, all the people in congress who know the least about economics.
The GOP blew it. They ESPECIALLY blew it by having a few high-profile members come right out & say - like children - that Pelosi's speech changed some crucial votes. Democrats should run that in every ad from now 'til the market sinks below 10,000.
UNREAL. The biggest economic crisis of our lifetimes, by a mile, and PELOSI'S SPEECH made them pick up their marbles & go home, leaving millions vulnerable to the whim of a panicking market. And that's going to trickle down in a big hurry & hit everyone who thought this was just for the "fat cats."
It's criminal. Pelosi shouldn't have used the moment to grandstand, but the idea that people killed this bill because of that is beyond words, given the global stakes.
UNREAL. The biggest economic crisis of our lifetimes, by a mile, and PELOSI'S SPEECH made them pick up their marbles & go home, leaving millions vulnerable to the whim of a panicking market. And that's going to trickle down in a big hurry & hit everyone who thought this was just for the "fat cats."
It's criminal. Pelosi shouldn't have used the moment to grandstand, but the idea that people killed this bill because of that is beyond words, given the global stakes.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Hey, as long as the bailout failed, I am happy, no matter how it went down...
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
Here is Pelosi's childish rant....
Madam Speaker when was the last time someone asked you for $700 billion?
It is a number that is staggering, but tells us only the costs of the Bush administration's failed economic policies -- policies built on budgetary recklessness, on an anything goes mentality, with no regulation, no supervision, and no discipline in the system.
Democrats believe in the free market, which can and does create jobs, wealth, and capital, but left to its own devices it has created chaos.
That chaos is the dismal picture painted by Treasury Secretary (Henry) Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman (Ben) Bernanke a week and a half ago in the Capitol. As they pointed out, we confront a crisis of historic magnitude that has the ability to do serious injury not simply to our economy, but to the American people: not just to Wall Street, but to everyday Americans on Main Street.
It is our responsibility today, to help avert that catastrophic outcome.
Let us be clear: This is a crisis caused on Wall Street. But it is a crisis that reaches to Main Street in every city and town of the United States.
It is a crisis that freezes credit, causes families to lose their homes, cripples small businesses, and makes it harder to find jobs.
It is a crisis that never had to happen. It is now the duty of every member of this body to recognize that the failure to act responsibly, with full protections for the American taxpayer, would compound the damage already done to the financial security of millions of American families.
Over the past several days, we have worked with our Republican colleagues to fashion an alternative to the original plan of the Bush administration.
I must recognize the outstanding leadership provided by (House Financial Services Committee) Chairman Barney Frank (Democrat of Massachusetts), whose enormous intellectual and strategic abilities have never before been so urgently needed, or so widely admired.
I also want to recognize (Illinois Democratic Rep.) Rahm Emanuel, who combined his deep knowledge of financial institutions with his pragmatic policy experience, to resolve key disagreements.
Secretary Paulson deserves credit for working day and night to help reach an agreement and for his flexibility in negotiating changes to his original proposal.
Democrats insisted that legislation responding to this crisis must protect the American people and Main Street from the meltdown on Wall Street.
The American people did not decide to dangerously weaken our regulatory and oversight policies. They did not make unwise and risky financial deals. They did not jeopardize the economic security of the nation. And they must not pay the cost of this emergency recovery and stabilization bill.
So we insisted that this bill contain several key provisions:
This legislation must contain independent and ongoing oversight to ensure that the recovery program is managed with full transparency and strict accountability.
The legislation must do everything possible to allow as many people to stay in their homes rather than face foreclosure.
The corporate CEOs whose companies will benefit from the public's participation in this recovery must not benefit by exorbitant salaries and golden parachute retirement bonuses.
Our message to Wall Street is this: the party is over. The era of golden parachutes for high-flying Wall Street operators is over. No longer will the U.S. taxpayer bailout the recklessness of Wall Street.
The taxpayers who bear the risk in this recovery must share in the upside as the economy recovers.
And should this program not pay for itself, the financial institutions that benefited, not the taxpayers, must bear responsibility for making up the difference.
These were the Democratic demands to safeguard the American taxpayer, to help the economy recover, and to impose tough accountability as a central component of this recovery effort.
This legislation is not the end of congressional activity on this crisis. Over the course of the next few weeks, we will continue to hold investigative and oversight hearings to find out how the crisis developed, where mistakes were made, and how the recovery must be managed to protect the middle class and the American taxpayer.
With passage of this legislation today, we can begin the difficult job of turning our economy around, of helping those who depend on a growing economy and stable financial institutions for a secure retirement, for the education of their children, for jobs and small business credit.
Today we must act for those Americans, for Main Street, and we must act now, with the bipartisan spirit of cooperation which allowed us to fashion this legislation.
This not enough. We are also working to restore our nation's economic strength by passing a new economic recovery stimulus package -- a robust, job creating bill -- that will help Americans struggling with high prices, get our economy back on track, and renew the American Dream.
Today, we will act to avert this crisis, but informed by our experience of the past eight years with the failed economic leadership that has left us left capable of meeting the challenges of the future.
We choose a different path. In the new year, with a new Congress and a new president, we will break free with a failed past and take America in a New Direction to a better future."
==========================================
I think it's safe to say, this was not a cordial speech given in a moment of bipartisan cooperation with the other side, it was a harsh and vitriolic condemnation of Bush and Republicans, a politicization of the opportunity afforded her as Speaker of the House. I think I speak for House Republicans when I say, ya know what... I'm fed up with it... fuck it! You people want to act like jackasses, and we want to try to work together for the good of America. Our candidate sacrificed his presidential campaign to come back to Washington and help work this out, but you people want to make it a political issue, so that's what we're going to do. Deal with the results of your petty partisanship now! Explain to America how you assed up a deal to save our economy, because you couldn't put your fucking pom-poms down for one moment, and be truly bipartisan. In the immortal words of Dick Cheney... Go Fuck Yourself!
Madam Speaker when was the last time someone asked you for $700 billion?
It is a number that is staggering, but tells us only the costs of the Bush administration's failed economic policies -- policies built on budgetary recklessness, on an anything goes mentality, with no regulation, no supervision, and no discipline in the system.
Democrats believe in the free market, which can and does create jobs, wealth, and capital, but left to its own devices it has created chaos.
That chaos is the dismal picture painted by Treasury Secretary (Henry) Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman (Ben) Bernanke a week and a half ago in the Capitol. As they pointed out, we confront a crisis of historic magnitude that has the ability to do serious injury not simply to our economy, but to the American people: not just to Wall Street, but to everyday Americans on Main Street.
It is our responsibility today, to help avert that catastrophic outcome.
Let us be clear: This is a crisis caused on Wall Street. But it is a crisis that reaches to Main Street in every city and town of the United States.
It is a crisis that freezes credit, causes families to lose their homes, cripples small businesses, and makes it harder to find jobs.
It is a crisis that never had to happen. It is now the duty of every member of this body to recognize that the failure to act responsibly, with full protections for the American taxpayer, would compound the damage already done to the financial security of millions of American families.
Over the past several days, we have worked with our Republican colleagues to fashion an alternative to the original plan of the Bush administration.
I must recognize the outstanding leadership provided by (House Financial Services Committee) Chairman Barney Frank (Democrat of Massachusetts), whose enormous intellectual and strategic abilities have never before been so urgently needed, or so widely admired.
I also want to recognize (Illinois Democratic Rep.) Rahm Emanuel, who combined his deep knowledge of financial institutions with his pragmatic policy experience, to resolve key disagreements.
Secretary Paulson deserves credit for working day and night to help reach an agreement and for his flexibility in negotiating changes to his original proposal.
Democrats insisted that legislation responding to this crisis must protect the American people and Main Street from the meltdown on Wall Street.
The American people did not decide to dangerously weaken our regulatory and oversight policies. They did not make unwise and risky financial deals. They did not jeopardize the economic security of the nation. And they must not pay the cost of this emergency recovery and stabilization bill.
So we insisted that this bill contain several key provisions:
This legislation must contain independent and ongoing oversight to ensure that the recovery program is managed with full transparency and strict accountability.
The legislation must do everything possible to allow as many people to stay in their homes rather than face foreclosure.
The corporate CEOs whose companies will benefit from the public's participation in this recovery must not benefit by exorbitant salaries and golden parachute retirement bonuses.
Our message to Wall Street is this: the party is over. The era of golden parachutes for high-flying Wall Street operators is over. No longer will the U.S. taxpayer bailout the recklessness of Wall Street.
The taxpayers who bear the risk in this recovery must share in the upside as the economy recovers.
And should this program not pay for itself, the financial institutions that benefited, not the taxpayers, must bear responsibility for making up the difference.
These were the Democratic demands to safeguard the American taxpayer, to help the economy recover, and to impose tough accountability as a central component of this recovery effort.
This legislation is not the end of congressional activity on this crisis. Over the course of the next few weeks, we will continue to hold investigative and oversight hearings to find out how the crisis developed, where mistakes were made, and how the recovery must be managed to protect the middle class and the American taxpayer.
With passage of this legislation today, we can begin the difficult job of turning our economy around, of helping those who depend on a growing economy and stable financial institutions for a secure retirement, for the education of their children, for jobs and small business credit.
Today we must act for those Americans, for Main Street, and we must act now, with the bipartisan spirit of cooperation which allowed us to fashion this legislation.
This not enough. We are also working to restore our nation's economic strength by passing a new economic recovery stimulus package -- a robust, job creating bill -- that will help Americans struggling with high prices, get our economy back on track, and renew the American Dream.
Today, we will act to avert this crisis, but informed by our experience of the past eight years with the failed economic leadership that has left us left capable of meeting the challenges of the future.
We choose a different path. In the new year, with a new Congress and a new president, we will break free with a failed past and take America in a New Direction to a better future."
==========================================
I think it's safe to say, this was not a cordial speech given in a moment of bipartisan cooperation with the other side, it was a harsh and vitriolic condemnation of Bush and Republicans, a politicization of the opportunity afforded her as Speaker of the House. I think I speak for House Republicans when I say, ya know what... I'm fed up with it... fuck it! You people want to act like jackasses, and we want to try to work together for the good of America. Our candidate sacrificed his presidential campaign to come back to Washington and help work this out, but you people want to make it a political issue, so that's what we're going to do. Deal with the results of your petty partisanship now! Explain to America how you assed up a deal to save our economy, because you couldn't put your fucking pom-poms down for one moment, and be truly bipartisan. In the immortal words of Dick Cheney... Go Fuck Yourself!
"Our candidate sacrificed his presidential campaign to come back to Washington and help work this out, but you people want to make it a political issue, so that's what we're going to do"
Yes, yes - that's a great idea Dix. I think the GOP should make it the focus of a big ad campaign. We could have saved your job, but Pelosi just pissed us off too much.
Smart.
Yes, yes - that's a great idea Dix. I think the GOP should make it the focus of a big ad campaign. We could have saved your job, but Pelosi just pissed us off too much.
Smart.
Nancy Pelosi must be the most ineffective House Speaker of modern times. The Democrats have achieved virtually nothing since taking control of the House and Senate in 2006, and have consistently avoided the responsibility that goes with being the majority party. Which may explain why, until very recently, most Americans were unaware that the Democrats were actually in control of Congress.
Pelosi's ineffectiveness has been due, in part, to her unrelenting and strident partisanship, which brings us to today's vote on the bailout bill: suspicion is growing that Pelosi and the Democrats made no serious effort to pass the bill, and that it failed at least in part because Pelosi tried to misuse it for political advantage.
Everyone has heard about the weirdly partisan and inaccurate rant which Pelosi contributed to the debate on the bailout bill. But that speech did not take place in a vacuum. Public opinion is running strongly against the bill, and it required political courage to vote for it. If you look at the list of those who voted "No" in both parties, it is mostly members who are engaged in tough re-election campaigns. This is true on both sides of the aisle.
That being the case, and given the fact that the legislation was in fact a negotiated, bipartisan compromise, the first duty of the majority party is to line up its members to support the majority's bill. But evidence is growing that the Democrats did no such thing.
As of yesterday, the Democrats' House whip, Jim Clyburn said that he hadn't even begun "whipping" Democratic representatives, and wouldn't do so unless and until he got orders from Nancy Pelosi. Today, Democratic Congressman Peter DeFazio told NPR that he never was "whipped" on the bill. So Pelosi evidently left Democrats to vote their consciences--which is to say, vote against the bill if they thought it was politically necessary--while counting on Republicans to put the bill over the top.
This is a classic Charlie Brown and the football maneuver. Pelosi gives a speech that frames the issue, falsely, as the result of bad Republican policies, then allows her own threatened representatives to do the popular thing while expecting Republicans to take one for the team by casting an unpopular vote. Which, of course, their Democratic opponents would use against them, thereby increasing the Democratic majority in the House.
If this was Pelosi's plan it failed, in part, perhaps, because her over-the-top partisan diatribe tipped off Republicans as to what was afoot. If, as it now appears, it's true that the Democrats made no serious effort to pass the bailout bill, it is just one more example of the failure of leadership we have seen since they took control of Congress.
Pelosi's ineffectiveness has been due, in part, to her unrelenting and strident partisanship, which brings us to today's vote on the bailout bill: suspicion is growing that Pelosi and the Democrats made no serious effort to pass the bill, and that it failed at least in part because Pelosi tried to misuse it for political advantage.
Everyone has heard about the weirdly partisan and inaccurate rant which Pelosi contributed to the debate on the bailout bill. But that speech did not take place in a vacuum. Public opinion is running strongly against the bill, and it required political courage to vote for it. If you look at the list of those who voted "No" in both parties, it is mostly members who are engaged in tough re-election campaigns. This is true on both sides of the aisle.
That being the case, and given the fact that the legislation was in fact a negotiated, bipartisan compromise, the first duty of the majority party is to line up its members to support the majority's bill. But evidence is growing that the Democrats did no such thing.
As of yesterday, the Democrats' House whip, Jim Clyburn said that he hadn't even begun "whipping" Democratic representatives, and wouldn't do so unless and until he got orders from Nancy Pelosi. Today, Democratic Congressman Peter DeFazio told NPR that he never was "whipped" on the bill. So Pelosi evidently left Democrats to vote their consciences--which is to say, vote against the bill if they thought it was politically necessary--while counting on Republicans to put the bill over the top.
This is a classic Charlie Brown and the football maneuver. Pelosi gives a speech that frames the issue, falsely, as the result of bad Republican policies, then allows her own threatened representatives to do the popular thing while expecting Republicans to take one for the team by casting an unpopular vote. Which, of course, their Democratic opponents would use against them, thereby increasing the Democratic majority in the House.
If this was Pelosi's plan it failed, in part, perhaps, because her over-the-top partisan diatribe tipped off Republicans as to what was afoot. If, as it now appears, it's true that the Democrats made no serious effort to pass the bailout bill, it is just one more example of the failure of leadership we have seen since they took control of Congress.
theMAJORITY
MAJORITYrules-sorry
Funny---that is what non supporters said supporters calim is their reason. They say "We are not thumb sucking babies--we don't like the bill). WOW---I thought it was only the citizens of America that the bill supporters think are thumb sucking babies. (realize this moron--the more they fight--the better it is for the American citizen)
To me--the accusation of saying adults changing their vote because of a partisan speach of the stupid hippy chick (they all know who she is)---is childish, condesending, and insulting.
the fact you believe it enough to start a thread does give the supporters some credibility af us citizens being thumb sucking babies though. So--shut the fuck up, or your gonna make us all speed bumps.
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"To me--the accusation of saying adults changing their vote because of a partisan speach of the hippy chick (they all know who she is)---is childish, condesending, and insulting."
The GOP rep from VA came out yesterday in front of the press, waving Pelosi's speech, and saying "this is why the bill didn't pass."
Right after Boehner said that Pelosi's speech caused the bill to fail.
The GOP rep from VA came out yesterday in front of the press, waving Pelosi's speech, and saying "this is why the bill didn't pass."
Right after Boehner said that Pelosi's speech caused the bill to fail.
theMAJORITY
MAJORITYrules-sorry
It is widly agreed that the speach did not help their socialism cause of rapeing America---but find me one person who said they changed their vote because of the stupid hippy speach.
