Bailout Update

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This would be a plan 100 times better than the shit the bush administration fuckers tried to force feed the American people. (best improvement - an equity interest, meaning, the taxpayer could very well be paid back, rather than the bush plan of pawning off the bad debt on us, and allowing the billionaires to continue to pocket profits) However, at this point, I am for no bailout at all, at this time. I believe the best course of action would be for Democrats to come out and say there will be no bailout until after the election. We can surely wait six weeks. This is another Iraq war resolution, is what they should tell the people, who are probably already not for this bailout. Let’s not rush it just before an election, where politics are bound to play an extraordinary roll. I don’t expect this to happen because the stock market would fall – not crash – but fall, if they said that, and the R’s would spend the next 6 weeks claiming that the democrats destroyed the economy. They could succeed with that argument, but that’s not certain…but the dems won’t risk it.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Democrats issued a counterproposal to the Treasury Department's $700 billion Wall Street bailout plan on Monday that would give the government a stake in firms unloading troubled assets under the plan, and limit the pay of corporate executives involved.

There would also be assistance to homeowners and localities to prevent foreclosures, and more oversight of the Treasury's actions, under the proposal released by the office of Connecticut Democratic Sen. Christopher Dodd, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

Another provision would ensure decisions taken by the Treasury secretary under the bailout would be reviewable under certain circumstances. The Treasury had asked that decisions not be reviewable by any administrative body or court.
It was the latest step in fast-moving negotiations between Congress and the administration over a massive program designed to address the worst U.S. financial crisis since the Great Depression.
The draft released by Dodd "does not reflect an agreement with the (Bush) administration on a legislative product for Senate debate. Discussions and negotiations continue," according to a statement from Dodd's office.
White House spokeswoman Dana Perino declined to directly address the Senate Democrats plan.
"From our perspective, the cleaner the better and the quicker the better," she told reporters aboard Air Force One as Bush flew to New York to attend the U.N. General Assembly.
The counterproposal allows Treasury to buy troubled assets from any financial institution but requires Treasury to report regularly to Congress and disclose publicly each Friday the total assets held and total assets bought and sold that week.
Companies unloading troubled assets onto Treasury could not offer executives pay incentives deemed "inappropriate or excessive" by the Treasury secretary.
In addition, executive incentive pay based on profits or other benchmarks later proven to be inaccurate could be taken away, or clawed back, under the Democrats' language.
Democrats also want to create an oversight board to include the chairmen of the Federal Reserve, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp and Securities and Exchange Commission to limit the Treasury's broad powers under the plan.
The "Emergency Oversight Board" would monitor the bailout and make recommendations to the Treasury secretary.
In addition to the Fed, FDIC and SEC chairmen, the board would include one non-government member appointed by Congress' majority leadership, and one appointed by minority leadership.
SHELBY CONCERNED

A key Senate Republican has significant reservations about the plan, said his spokesman on Monday.

Alabama Sen. Richard Shelby, top Republican on the banking committee, remains unconvinced that Treasury's proposal strikes a balance between the interests of the taxpayer and the economy, said spokesman Jonathan Graffeo.

Shelby is concerned that the plan "would reward Wall Street while doing nothing for homeowners or for local financial institutions ... He will continue to work with Chairman Dodd to see whether there is a way forward," Graffeo said.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/washington/politics-financial-bailout-congress.html
 
An oversight board seems like a no brainer. I'd love to see Bush try to spin why that wouldn't be needed for a $700 billion giveaway.

They should rush him; get 'er done, Bush! You've gotta act now!

Postponing is out of the question, unless they could present it in a bipartisan way. If the Dems come out & say we're going to wait until after the elections, on their own, they'll get crucified.
 
An oversight board seems like a no brainer. I'd love to see Bush try to spin why that wouldn't be needed for a $700 billion giveaway.

They should rush him; get 'er done, Bush! You've gotta act now!

Postponing is out of the question, unless they could present it in a bipartisan way. If the Dems come out & say we're going to wait until after the elections, on their own, they'll get crucified.

Well, you have a very influential Republican like Shelby, who doesn't seem to like the bill, for starters. They would need to build on that though- can't have just one, or they'll Hagel him. You'd need a coalition. But I don't think it's going to happen either Onceler.
 
I was just talking to my bf about that usc.

Also - any possibility that "the next great depression" is the new wmds?
I think it is a large possibility. All this direct grabbing of "stakes" in corporations stinks to high heaven. I'm disliking this very much.
 
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