Conspiracy alert: Did the US voters sink Jimmy Carter

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by golly gee willickers....i may be onto something here
 
...back in the fall of 1980 an overriding fear of Ronald Reagan's campaign strategists was that President Jimmy Carter would win the release of U.S. hostages held in Iran in time to get them home before the November election and thus triumph in the polls.

Against this possilibity of an "October Surprise," so the theory goes, such Reagan operatives as the late William J. Casey, campaign boss and subsequent head of the CIA, held secret parleys with the Iranians in which a deal was hatched: The hostages would be held till after the election, and in return the new administration would send arms to Tehran...
"Ronald Reagan cut a deal with Iran before the 1980 election to send arms in exchange for Iran’s agreeing to delay the release of our 52 hostages."
http://www.welfarestate.com/irancontra/

Yep, that election marked the beginning of the end for this country. It was won on a traitorous move that kept Americans hostage longer than they should have been and traded the timing of their release for weapons to terrorists. Voodoo economics, deficits don't matter, new world order, the war on the middle class, the beginnings of the conservative ideology that has finally killed the American dream.
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Crashk said:
...back in the fall of 1980 an overriding fear of Ronald Reagan's campaign strategists was that President Jimmy Carter would win the release of U.S. hostages held in Iran in time to get them home before the November election and thus triumph in the polls.

Against this possilibity of an "October Surprise," so the theory goes, such Reagan operatives as the late William J. Casey, campaign boss and subsequent head of the CIA, held secret parleys with the Iranians in which a deal was hatched: The hostages would be held till after the election, and in return the new administration would send arms to Tehran...
"Ronald Reagan cut a deal with Iran before the 1980 election to send arms in exchange for Iran’s agreeing to delay the release of our 52 hostages."
http://www.welfarestate.com/irancontra/

Yep, that election marked the beginning of the end for this country. It was won on a traitorous move that kept Americans hostage longer than they should have been and traded the timing of their release for weapons to terrorists. Voodoo economics, deficits don't matter, new world order, the war on the middle class, the beginnings of the conservative ideology that has finally killed the American dream.
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lmao....yeah, it was just the hostages that caused carter to lose the election and that is a wacky conspiracy and you make fun of birthers....LOL

dumbest post of the week
 
Crashk said:
...back in the fall of 1980 an overriding fear of Ronald Reagan's campaign strategists was that President Jimmy Carter would win the release of U.S. hostages held in Iran in time to get them home before the November election and thus triumph in the polls.

Against this possilibity of an "October Surprise," so the theory goes, such Reagan operatives as the late William J. Casey, campaign boss and subsequent head of the CIA, held secret parleys with the Iranians in which a deal was hatched: The hostages would be held till after the election, and in return the new administration would send arms to Tehran...
"Ronald Reagan cut a deal with Iran before the 1980 election to send arms in exchange for Iran’s agreeing to delay the release of our 52 hostages."
http://www.welfarestate.com/irancontra/

Yep, that election marked the beginning of the end for this country. It was won on a traitorous move that kept Americans hostage longer than they should have been and traded the timing of their release for weapons to terrorists. Voodoo economics, deficits don't matter, new world order, the war on the middle class, the beginnings of the conservative ideology that has finally killed the American dream.
pfffffft
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LOL

Anyone who thinks an earlier return of the Iran hostages would have done more than turn an extra two or three states blue needs to get off the Drixoral. There was no "fear" from republicans of that election that an early ending to the hostage crisis would make any difference because, like now with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as an issue, the flagging sagging economy was by FAR the number 1, seemingly only issue of concern for the average voter. Dissing Carter for his handling of the crisis was little more than a tablespoon of gravy on the ton of mashed potatoes drowning Carter's economic policies.

Nor was there any significant hope from democrats that if a miracle should occur (like the aborted rescue operation succeeding) that it would make much difference in the election. Still an active registered democrat at that time, I remember being quite despondent, as was the entirety of the campaign office I was working in.
 
Crashk said:
...back in the fall of 1980 an overriding fear of Ronald Reagan's campaign strategists was that President Jimmy Carter would win the release of U.S. hostages held in Iran in time to get them home before the November election and thus triumph in the polls.

Against this possilibity of an "October Surprise," so the theory goes, such Reagan operatives as the late William J. Casey, campaign boss and subsequent head of the CIA, held secret parleys with the Iranians in which a deal was hatched: The hostages would be held till after the election, and in return the new administration would send arms to Tehran...
"Ronald Reagan cut a deal with Iran before the 1980 election to send arms in exchange for Iran’s agreeing to delay the release of our 52 hostages."
http://www.welfarestate.com/irancontra/

Yep, that election marked the beginning of the end for this country. It was won on a traitorous move that kept Americans hostage longer than they should have been and traded the timing of their release for weapons to terrorists. Voodoo economics, deficits don't matter, new world order, the war on the middle class, the beginnings of the conservative ideology that has finally killed the American dream.
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If this is factually true then it was a reprehensible act by Regan.

The Nixon campaign did in fact send envoys to Vietnam during the 68 election to have them prevent a peace agreement from occurring. That was just flat out treason.
 
Good Luck said:
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Anyone who thinks an earlier return of the Iran hostages would have done more than turn an extra two or three states blue needs to get off the Drixoral. There was no "fear" from republicans of that election that an early ending to the hostage crisis would make any difference because, like now with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as an issue, the flagging sagging economy was by FAR the number 1, seemingly only issue of concern for the average voter. Dissing Carter for his handling of the crisis was little more than a tablespoon of gravy on the ton of mashed potatoes drowning Carter's economic policies.

Nor was there any significant hope from democrats that if a miracle should occur (like the aborted rescue operation succeeding) that it would make much difference in the election. Still an active registered democrat at that time, I remember being quite despondent, as was the entirety of the campaign office I was working in.
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Yea well obviously the Regan campaign felt that way. You've never spent much time out east have you dude? It shows.
 
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