Early questions.....
- Thread starter Jarod
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Are there contenders yet ? Is HRC a contender for that matter ? No staying home for me, could never vote for HRC. Anyone I could not vote for ? Noone jumps out at this time but as you point out, its early, so much so that its not on my radar. We have enough real problems to focus on right this minute for me to set them aside for something that far out.
Thumbs up or down (guessing down) ? Stay home/3rd party ?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
the guy who lives on the corner who never mows his lawn....
He is saying he would vote for any of them, not what their chances are (zero).
Believe it or not Celticguy, we will talk more and more about the 2016 election over the next two years, and I see no one at all in the GOP worth mentioning. What Part Idiot 66 fails to realize is that it isn't about who he likes or who he would vote for, it is about who could get elected. As he said, he would vote for most anybody, not realizing that the GOP has lost a great many members to the independent party and they will not vote for ANY current members of Congress, house or senate. Ryan, Boner, Cantor and Mcconnell are perhaps the most reviled politicians in the last 100 years. Way too many people know what these assholes have done to prevent economic recovery at the main street level, while continuing to pander to the wealthiest, cut food stamps and unemployment and not vote on a single jobs bill in six years, instead wasting all their time trying to repeal Obamacare, even though it was proposed by the Heritage Foundation, first made law by Romney and on a federal level, written by and for the insurance companies. You can't buy this kind of stupid, and all too many Americans can see right through it.
Ok you fret about 2016, ill worry about 2014, i get why you dont want to think about it. Gop voted on dozens of jovs bills, you just prefer pork bills like the unstimulating stimulous bill. And you know but cannot say that romney always maintained that what his constituants wanted in mass would not work nationally. I would not dsrp on gop leadership's popularity given donkey leadership. Pelosi is the most reviled though reid is giving her a run for her money.
I am not fretting over anything, just trying to help. Like all of your kind though, you are not receptive to help, which is why you are failing.
One more time; It isn't about who YOU like, it is about who can get elected. Neither Pelosi or Reid are running, try to pay attention.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
I think it is cute that you think Hillary is a lock given how your side treated her in 2008
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
I think it is cute that you think Hillary is a lock given how your side treated her in 2008
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
actually, they said she was a lock in 2006 as well......my guess is, she'll be shifted aside for something golden.....like the first woman candidate who's clean, well dressed, articulate......
Those are people you would not vote for?
People like PMP don't want to talk about it because they haven't gotten their talking points yet.
Until then they will claim that its not a good topic here on a political discussion board.
I would not call her a lock, I would call her the frontrunner. I am not supporting her for the nomination, there are better more liberal candidates out there.
Crashk
Unite or Die
Conservatives don't know who they are going to vote for because Sheldon Adelson hasn't picked the GOP contender yet. As soon as he makes up his mind wing nuts will have their candidate.
GOP candidates kiss up to billionaire Sheldon Adelson
Who wants to marry a billionaire?
John Kasich does. So do Scott Walker, Chris Christie and Jeb Bush.
When Sheldon Adelson, the world’s eighth-richest person, according to Forbes, let it be known that he was looking for a Republican candidate to back in the 2016 presidential race, these four men rushed to Las Vegas over the weekend to see if they could arrange a quickie marriage in Sin City between their political ambitions and Adelson’s $39.9 billion fortune.
The Shame of American Politics: GOP Presidential Hopefuls Trek to Las Vegas for Adelson Blessing
Adelson has a right to vote and advocate for his candidates. But the idea that he and his like should choose the next president is too awful to contemplate. One person, one vote isn’t one person, $100 million worth of votes. That isn’t democracy…
http://billmoyers.com/2014/04/01/th...efuls-trek-to-las-vegas-for-adelson-blessing/
Don't worry wing nuts, you'll have a candidate and loads of chinese casino money to back him up.
GOP candidates kiss up to billionaire Sheldon Adelson
Who wants to marry a billionaire?
John Kasich does. So do Scott Walker, Chris Christie and Jeb Bush.
When Sheldon Adelson, the world’s eighth-richest person, according to Forbes, let it be known that he was looking for a Republican candidate to back in the 2016 presidential race, these four men rushed to Las Vegas over the weekend to see if they could arrange a quickie marriage in Sin City between their political ambitions and Adelson’s $39.9 billion fortune.
The Shame of American Politics: GOP Presidential Hopefuls Trek to Las Vegas for Adelson Blessing
Adelson has a right to vote and advocate for his candidates. But the idea that he and his like should choose the next president is too awful to contemplate. One person, one vote isn’t one person, $100 million worth of votes. That isn’t democracy…
http://billmoyers.com/2014/04/01/th...efuls-trek-to-las-vegas-for-adelson-blessing/
Don't worry wing nuts, you'll have a candidate and loads of chinese casino money to back him up.
If Sheldon's money is what is going to decide the Republican nomination one good thing is that Randall Paul is out of the running. From what I read, they hate each other. If Sheldon is the boss, its going to be Jeb.
Crashk
Unite or Die
Sad thing is conservatives don't see anything wrong with this and they will lap up the hairball that Adelson's money will gack up.
I wonder when the average working Republican will realize that carrying Adelson's water isn't good for them or the country.
Naaaa.... They're too dumb to understand who controls their party and their minds.
I wonder when the average working Republican will realize that carrying Adelson's water isn't good for them or the country.
Naaaa.... They're too dumb to understand who controls their party and their minds.
Quite a stupid contention.....Adelson's got about as much influence about who I or any one else votes for, as you do....
Personally, I'd vote for desh before I'd vote for Hillary....Sen. Gillibrand from NY is a person of interest for D's.....
Curz, Coburn, and even Michele Bachmann are people to consider for the R's.....
I think 'name recognition' will be the determining factor on both sides.... people are just too ignorant to choose the best....
D's definitely have the edge,....they are just too good at character assassination and personal attacks, plus a compliant media, for the R's.....
Are you suggesting there is anything different in the dnc ? And i thought it was the koch boys. Hard to keep up with the left's boogyman du jour.
Robo
Verified User
Why bother to vote at all for any of the bastards?
The Duopoly D’s & R’s operate rigged elections.
They together control the number of signatures it takes to achieve ballot access in every State and they’ve made those numbers third party killers. It uses up the vast majority of independents and third party financial resources and campaign time just to get ballot access, so no others really need apply.
The Duopoly R’s & D’s and their soul mates own and operate the Major Media in the country thus they own and operate the National Debate. Watch the news and you’d think there was nobody else in the country aside from Democrats & Republicans. They require at least 10% of the votes according to the polls they have influence over before anybody besides a Democrat or Republican can join in the national televised debate. Why don’t they allow anybody that makes ballot access in enough states to actually possibly win the electoral vote in the nation into the televised debates? Don’t hold your breath for that anytime soon! The Libertarians and Greens often meet that requirement after spending all of their campaign money on ballot access. The Duopoly ain’t about to give them free campaigning face time in the national debate.
Look at your ballot. The D’s & R’s get top billing on every ballot. There’s NO alphabetical listing of candidate’s names on the ballot. What the fuck, that might be something like fairness, huh? I’ve even seen ballots where the D’s & R’s names are twice the size of any other candidate on the ballot.
Oh yeah! Don’t forget that Wall Street, every lobbyist and every special interest collective knows that every election is rigged in favor of the Duopoly, so guess where the vast, vast majority of campaign donations are headed. They sure as hell ain’t headed for the Libertarians, Greens or Independents, or any other party, huh?
Voters are simply suckers! They’re owned and operated by the Duopoly. So who should give a flying fuck if Hillary runs or who the “R” side of the Duopoly coin runs against her? Whoever gets elected always does the same shit anyhow and that’s mostly shitting on our Constitution, our only written guarantee of liberty.
“Don’t vote it just encourages the bastards!” (P. J. O’Rourke)
The Duopoly D’s & R’s operate rigged elections.
They together control the number of signatures it takes to achieve ballot access in every State and they’ve made those numbers third party killers. It uses up the vast majority of independents and third party financial resources and campaign time just to get ballot access, so no others really need apply.
The Duopoly R’s & D’s and their soul mates own and operate the Major Media in the country thus they own and operate the National Debate. Watch the news and you’d think there was nobody else in the country aside from Democrats & Republicans. They require at least 10% of the votes according to the polls they have influence over before anybody besides a Democrat or Republican can join in the national televised debate. Why don’t they allow anybody that makes ballot access in enough states to actually possibly win the electoral vote in the nation into the televised debates? Don’t hold your breath for that anytime soon! The Libertarians and Greens often meet that requirement after spending all of their campaign money on ballot access. The Duopoly ain’t about to give them free campaigning face time in the national debate.
Look at your ballot. The D’s & R’s get top billing on every ballot. There’s NO alphabetical listing of candidate’s names on the ballot. What the fuck, that might be something like fairness, huh? I’ve even seen ballots where the D’s & R’s names are twice the size of any other candidate on the ballot.
Oh yeah! Don’t forget that Wall Street, every lobbyist and every special interest collective knows that every election is rigged in favor of the Duopoly, so guess where the vast, vast majority of campaign donations are headed. They sure as hell ain’t headed for the Libertarians, Greens or Independents, or any other party, huh?
Voters are simply suckers! They’re owned and operated by the Duopoly. So who should give a flying fuck if Hillary runs or who the “R” side of the Duopoly coin runs against her? Whoever gets elected always does the same shit anyhow and that’s mostly shitting on our Constitution, our only written guarantee of liberty.
“Don’t vote it just encourages the bastards!” (P. J. O’Rourke)