Evanston, IL drops anti-gun law to avoid post-Heller lawsuits

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The fruits of the DC v. Heller decision continue to grow. Another community's anti-gun-rights ordnance that restricts only law-abiding citizens, bites the dust. Of course, the legislators think it's a BAD thing. The idea that letting law-abiding citizens have the ability to defend themselves might actually HELP them, never occurs to these people. And/or is not what they want the citizens to be able to do.

But that's OK. The purpose of the Heller decision and all the rest of the pro-gun-rights argument, si not to persuade the big-government fanatics that we are right. Tossing pearls to swine has never been productive. Its purpose is simply to shove them out of the way and let people exercise their rights whether the big-govt fanatics like it or not.

I especially like the reaction of the disgruntled alderthing who suggested that they publish the names of everybody who has an Illinois FOID card. She seems to think that would be some sort of punishment to the people who had the gall to wanted to (a) have the ability to defend themselves, and (b) obey the law.

In reality, the criminals would just love to get such a list. The would use it while casing a house or apartment block for a burglarly or home-invasion robbery etc. If the people in the house were NOT on the FOID list, the crooks would know it was safe to break in, rape and steal, etc. Another great example of government harming the law-abiding while helping the lawbreakers.

http://evanstonnow.com/public-safety/bill-smith/story/2008/08/11/city-drops-gun-ban-to-resolve-suit

City drops gun ban to resolve suit

Submitted by Bill Smith on Mon, 08/11/2008 - 8:10pm.

Evanston aldermen approved revisions to the city's gun control ordinance tonight designed to bring it in line with a recent Supreme Court ruling.

The National Rifle Association sued Evanston and other Illinois communities with gun bans after the court ruled in June that a gun ban in Washington, D.C., is unconstitutional.

In response the city's legal staff drafted a new ordinance that would let most residents keep guns in their homes, but ban possession of most guns by minors and of all guns by narcotics addicts, mental patients, the mentally retarded and persons under 21 years of age with criminal records.

Despite pleas from gun control advocates at the council's last meeting to stiffen the ordinance, the version the council adopted tonight is identical to the one proposed by the city's legal staff.

Alderman Ann Rainey, 8th Ward, said in support of the decision to modify the ordinance that the city of Chicago, which so far has refused to modify its gun ban "is starting to see that they could spend the entire city budget defending the ordinance if they leave it alone."

The revision of the Evanston ordinance is expected to lead to the dismissal of the NRA suit against the city.

City attorney Elke Tober-Purze said that the ordinance does not include several issues that are covered under state criminal statutes.

"Criminal charges should be prosecuted under state law," Tober-Purze said, "They do fingerprinting and create a criminal record. I don't think you want to prosecute felons under a local ordinance."

Rainey suggested that the city might want to consider printing the names of all those who have state firearms cards in the local paper.

"Do you want your grandchild going to visit someone who has a gun?" Rainey asked. But no action was taken on that suggestion.

Police Chief Richard Eddington said he would recommend against establishing a local registration program for firearms owners. He said the cost of the program couldn't be justified under the city's tight budget. In addition, Eddington said, the registration program would depend on everybody telling the truth, "which in my professional opinion isn't always true."
 
ZOMG?!@

ZOMG?!

Little-Dick - is Heller the biggest thing to ever happen in your entire life? Did you stay up late at night worrying about the ability of you "law-abiding" citizens to terrorize a city thousands of miles away against its citizens will?
 
Actually Chicago and the Northern suburbs were crazy. Gun free and nuclear free zones. The constitution has come home to roost.
 
I don't think it's a stretch to say that Heller is probably going to be the most significant case in our lifetimes.
 
God the right is crazy.
it is not the right WM. You might catagorize me at right but people like WRL and Dixie would call me left. I own fire arms. I want the RIGHT to own firearms. You seem to think it is people like me that are using firearms to inflict violence on people when in reality it is people that truly have NO POLITICAL drive at all that use firearms to victimize people. Heller was incredibly important because it affirms the right of people like me to own firearms to protect myself, my family, and people that may, possibly be victimized in my presence and I will defend them as well.
 
it is not the right WM. You might catagorize me at right but people like WRL and Dixie would call me left. I own fire arms. I want the RIGHT to own firearms. You seem to think it is people like me that are using firearms to inflict violence on people when in reality it is people that truly have NO POLITICAL drive at all that use firearms to victimize people. Heller was incredibly important because it affirms the right of people like me to own firearms to protect myself, my family, and people that may, possibly be victimized in my presence and I will defend them as well.

Watertard just got shut the fuck down.
 
it is not the right WM. You might catagorize me at right but people like WRL and Dixie would call me left. I own fire arms. I want the RIGHT to own firearms. You seem to think it is people like me that are using firearms to inflict violence on people when in reality it is people that truly have NO POLITICAL drive at all that use firearms to victimize people. Heller was incredibly important because it affirms the right of people like me to own firearms to protect myself, my family, and people that may, possibly be victimized in my presence and I will defend them as well.

Well, thanks to our firearms, the US does have slightly lower burglary rates than most other nations.

We also have five times the murders per capita, compared to handgun ban nations.

Gotta make those tradeoffs somewhere, eh?
 
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Well, thanks to our firearms, the US does have slightly lower burglary rates than most other nations.

We also have five times the murders per capita, compared to handgun ban nations.

Gotta make those tradeoffs somewhere, eh?

a couple was celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary when a reporter asked the wife if she ever considered divorcing her husband, she thought about it for a moment and replied 'divorce, never, now murder, a few times'
 
Well, thanks to our firearms, the US does have slightly lower burglary rates than most other nations.

We also have five times the murders per capita, compared to handgun ban nations.

Gotta make those tradeoffs somewhere, eh?

Is our higher murder rate due to our LEGALLY owned guns? Or due to criminals that have gained their firearms illegally?
 
Is our higher murder rate due to our LEGALLY owned guns? Or due to criminals that have gained their firearms illegally?

I don't know Sol...

Murders don't really correlate with government policies. It has a more to do with the society. The effect of government action is often wildly overestimated. Switzerland is the normal example of a society with a ridiculous amount of guns (and assault rifles) that has very low murder rates. Britain has a gun ban and very high crime rates. Netherlands has a gun ban and very low crime rates.
 
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