Fact check: Harris, in Georgia, blames woman’s death on state abortion law

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Fact check: Harris, in Georgia, blames woman’s death on state abortion law

Vice President Kamala Harris spoke Friday afternoon in Georgia about abortion rights amid the news that broke this week of two young women who died following taking abortion pills within six months of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

THE CLAIM: “Now we know that at least two women, and those are only the stories we know, here in the state of Georgia, died because of a Trump abortion ban,” Harris said, referring to the various gestational age restrictions or prohibitions of abortions passed by state legislatures following Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision in June 2022.

Harris was referring to stories published this week by ProPublica reporting that two women, Amber Nicole Thurman, 28, and Candi Miller, 41, died in the state following the Dobbs decision after taking abortion pills, and suggesting that the abortion measure was to blame.

Harris only spoke by name about Thurman, the single mother of a 6-year-old boy and an aspiring nursing student, who died of a sepsis infection following complications from taking abortion drugs in August 2022.

“But you see,” Harris said in her speech Friday, “under the Trump abortion ban, her doctors faced up to a decade in prison for providing Amber the care she needed.”

THE FACTS: The two women died after seeking chemical abortions, but there is no evidence that the state’s abortion ban is to blame for Thurman’s death or that her doctors faced penalties for treating her.

In 2019, Georgia passed a law banning abortion after six weeks gestation, approximately when fetal cardiac activity can be detected via ultrasound, a measure intended to take immediate effect when Roe was overturned.

But Thurman was approximately nine weeks pregnant with twins when she traveled to a North Carolina abortion clinic, where she was given mifepristone and misoprostol to take at home.

Five days after taking the abortion agent misoprostol, which induces contractions to expel the pregnancy tissue, Thurman presented at the emergency room on a stretcher with heavy bleeding, vomiting, foul-smelling vaginal discharge, critically elevated white blood cell count, and dropping blood pressure.

Thurman waited three hours before being administered antibiotics and more than 20 hours to receive a dilation and curettage, which involves dilating the patient’s cervix and surgically removing the remaining pregnancy tissue by scraping the inside of the uterus. But by that point, her organs had already begun to shut down, and she died on the operating table.

ProPublica cited a review committee that ruled that her death was preventable and that she might have survived if she had been provided with a D&C earlier.
But the provision of the D&C would not have been illegal under the state’s law. In Thurman’s case, ultrasound confirmed that both of her twins were already deceased by the time she had reached the hospital, according to medical reports. That means that any heartbeat provision in the state law preventing a D&C of viable fetuses would not have applied.

ProPublica did not cite any experts blaming the law for the death of Thurman. Anti-abortion doctors and legal experts have said that the law did not prevent her from receiving treatment.

Dr. Christina Francis, CEO of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, told reporters before Harris’s speech that the signs Thurman presented with “would indicate a very severe bacterial infection.”

“In the setting of an induced abortion, the physician seeing her must suspect incomplete abortion,” Francis said. “In fact, any first year OB resident would be able to make that diagnosis, given those symptoms.”

The care necessary to treat Thurman’s severe infection would have been, according to Francis and her colleague, Dr. Ingrid Skopp, also an OB/GYN and and anti-abortion advocate, to quickly administer antibiotics and perform a D&C.

Katie Daniel, state policy director for SBA Pro-Life America, told reporters ahead of Harris’s speech that the argument that Georgia’s abortion ban caused these preventable deaths is “flatly false.”

“Georgia bans procedures that cause the death of an unborn child whose heart is beating without a lawful justification,” Daniel said. “It did not ban any particular procedure. A D&C can always be performed if it is medically indicated to treat miscarriages or to treat abortion complications.”....

....Abortion pill complications


After Harris’s speech concluded, Francis told the Washington Examiner in a statement that the abortion drug mifepristone used by both Thurman and Miller was the primary cause of their unfortunate deaths, not anti-abortion laws.

“Deaths due to legal abortion drugs are the expected result of deregulating and falsely promoting them as safe, both of which the Biden-Harris administration has led efforts to do,” Francis said. “All state pro-life laws allow physicians to save the lives of pregnant women.”

The FDA’s warning label for mifepristone estimates that between 2.9% and 4.6% of medication abortion patients will seek emergency medical treatment due to life-threatening infection and sustained bleeding following a medication abortion.


A peer reviewed study of Medicaid-eligible women conducted by the Charlotte Lozier Institute, the research arm of SBA, found that they were “significantly more likely to have a severe or critical acuity rating” within 30 days of a self-administered medication abortion than other women seeking emergency medical attention.

By 2015, more than 75% of visits following abortion-pill usage were rated in the “severe or critical” categories, compared to 66% for surgical abortions and 57% for live births....
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Harris is just fear mongering to Georgia voters. She is just preying on the fact that most voters don't understand Medicine. The most prevalent kind of abortion in the entire US is chemical abortion. Harris want access to the drugs without medical supervision. This woman took mifepristone and it kill her babies and she did not expel them from her uterus. That caused infection and a large amount of foul smelling vaginal discharge and bleeding and a elevated white blood cell count. Those are clear signs of an incomplete abortion and sepsis. This woman's babies were already dead. This was a medical emergency and she should have gone to surgery immediately. This is a case of medical malpractice and does not have anything to do with Georgia abortion law.

When I was a intern I assisted on a case where a woman had a legal surgical abortion where the woman had retained products of conception and she presented with foul discharge bleeding fever and elevated blood count. We gave her antibiotics and she was in surgery within 2 hours after arrival to the ER. She survived.
 
Fact check: Harris, in Georgia, blames woman’s death on state abortion law

Vice President Kamala Harris spoke Friday afternoon in Georgia about abortion rights amid the news that broke this week of two young women who died following taking abortion pills within six months of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

THE CLAIM: “Now we know that at least two women, and those are only the stories we know, here in the state of Georgia, died because of a Trump abortion ban,” Harris said, referring to the various gestational age restrictions or prohibitions of abortions passed by state legislatures following Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision in June 2022.

Harris was referring to stories published this week by ProPublica reporting that two women, Amber Nicole Thurman, 28, and Candi Miller, 41, died in the state following the Dobbs decision after taking abortion pills, and suggesting that the abortion measure was to blame.

Harris only spoke by name about Thurman, the single mother of a 6-year-old boy and an aspiring nursing student, who died of a sepsis infection following complications from taking abortion drugs in August 2022.

“But you see,” Harris said in her speech Friday, “under the Trump abortion ban, her doctors faced up to a decade in prison for providing Amber the care she needed.”

THE FACTS: The two women died after seeking chemical abortions, but there is no evidence that the state’s abortion ban is to blame for Thurman’s death or that her doctors faced penalties for treating her.

In 2019, Georgia passed a law banning abortion after six weeks gestation, approximately when fetal cardiac activity can be detected via ultrasound, a measure intended to take immediate effect when Roe was overturned.

But Thurman was approximately nine weeks pregnant with twins when she traveled to a North Carolina abortion clinic, where she was given mifepristone and misoprostol to take at home.

Five days after taking the abortion agent misoprostol, which induces contractions to expel the pregnancy tissue, Thurman presented at the emergency room on a stretcher with heavy bleeding, vomiting, foul-smelling vaginal discharge, critically elevated white blood cell count, and dropping blood pressure.

Thurman waited three hours before being administered antibiotics and more than 20 hours to receive a dilation and curettage, which involves dilating the patient’s cervix and surgically removing the remaining pregnancy tissue by scraping the inside of the uterus. But by that point, her organs had already begun to shut down, and she died on the operating table.

ProPublica cited a review committee that ruled that her death was preventable and that she might have survived if she had been provided with a D&C earlier.
But the provision of the D&C would not have been illegal under the state’s law. In Thurman’s case, ultrasound confirmed that both of her twins were already deceased by the time she had reached the hospital, according to medical reports. That means that any heartbeat provision in the state law preventing a D&C of viable fetuses would not have applied.

ProPublica did not cite any experts blaming the law for the death of Thurman. Anti-abortion doctors and legal experts have said that the law did not prevent her from receiving treatment.

Dr. Christina Francis, CEO of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, told reporters before Harris’s speech that the signs Thurman presented with “would indicate a very severe bacterial infection.”

“In the setting of an induced abortion, the physician seeing her must suspect incomplete abortion,” Francis said. “In fact, any first year OB resident would be able to make that diagnosis, given those symptoms.”

The care necessary to treat Thurman’s severe infection would have been, according to Francis and her colleague, Dr. Ingrid Skopp, also an OB/GYN and and anti-abortion advocate, to quickly administer antibiotics and perform a D&C.

Katie Daniel, state policy director for SBA Pro-Life America, told reporters ahead of Harris’s speech that the argument that Georgia’s abortion ban caused these preventable deaths is “flatly false.”

“Georgia bans procedures that cause the death of an unborn child whose heart is beating without a lawful justification,” Daniel said. “It did not ban any particular procedure. A D&C can always be performed if it is medically indicated to treat miscarriages or to treat abortion complications.”....

....Abortion pill complications


After Harris’s speech concluded, Francis told the Washington Examiner in a statement that the abortion drug mifepristone used by both Thurman and Miller was the primary cause of their unfortunate deaths, not anti-abortion laws.

“Deaths due to legal abortion drugs are the expected result of deregulating and falsely promoting them as safe, both of which the Biden-Harris administration has led efforts to do,” Francis said. “All state pro-life laws allow physicians to save the lives of pregnant women.”

The FDA’s warning label for mifepristone estimates that between 2.9% and 4.6% of medication abortion patients will seek emergency medical treatment due to life-threatening infection and sustained bleeding following a medication abortion.


A peer reviewed study of Medicaid-eligible women conducted by the Charlotte Lozier Institute, the research arm of SBA, found that they were “significantly more likely to have a severe or critical acuity rating” within 30 days of a self-administered medication abortion than other women seeking emergency medical attention.

By 2015, more than 75% of visits following abortion-pill usage were rated in the “severe or critical” categories, compared to 66% for surgical abortions and 57% for live births....
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Harris is just fear mongering to Georgia voters. She is just preying on the fact that most voters don't understand Medicine. The most prevalent kind of abortion in the entire US is chemical abortion. Harris want access to the drugs without medical supervision. This woman took mifepristone and it kill her babies and she did not expel them from her uterus. That caused infection and a large amount of foul smelling vaginal discharge and bleeding and a elevated white blood cell count. Those are clear signs of an incomplete abortion and sepsis. This woman's babies were already dead. This was a medical emergency and she should have gone to surgery immediately. This is a case of medical malpractice and does not have anything to do with Georgia abortion law.

When I was a intern I assisted on a case where a woman had a legal surgical abortion where the woman had retained products of conception and she presented with foul discharge bleeding fever and elevated blood count. We gave her antibiotics and she was in surgery within 2 hours after arrival to the ER. She survived.
Admittedly I am no doctor but maybe it wasn't abortion laws that "killed" the woman but rather:

"Thurman waited three hours before being administered antibiotics and more than 20 hours to receive a dilation and curettage, which involves dilating the patient’s cervix and surgically removing the remaining pregnancy tissue by scraping the inside of the uterus. But by that point, her organs had already begun to shut down, and she died on the operating table."

But what is it dems always say, never let a crisis go to waste.
 
Admittedly I am no doctor but maybe it wasn't abortion laws that "killed" the woman but rather:

"Thurman waited three hours before being administered antibiotics and more than 20 hours to receive a dilation and curettage, which involves dilating the patient’s cervix and surgically removing the remaining pregnancy tissue by scraping the inside of the uterus. But by that point, her organs had already begun to shut down, and she died on the operating table."

But what is it dems always say, never let a crisis go to waste.
Sepsis is a complication of incomplete abortions caused by abortion pills which Harris advocates for.
 
Fact check: Harris, in Georgia, blames woman’s death on state abortion law

Vice President Kamala Harris spoke Friday afternoon in Georgia about abortion rights amid the news that broke this week of two young women who died following taking abortion pills within six months of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

THE CLAIM: “Now we know that at least two women, and those are only the stories we know, here in the state of Georgia, died because of a Trump abortion ban,” Harris said, referring to the various gestational age restrictions or prohibitions of abortions passed by state legislatures following Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision in June 2022.

Harris was referring to stories published this week by ProPublica reporting that two women, Amber Nicole Thurman, 28, and Candi Miller, 41, died in the state following the Dobbs decision after taking abortion pills, and suggesting that the abortion measure was to blame.

Harris only spoke by name about Thurman, the single mother of a 6-year-old boy and an aspiring nursing student, who died of a sepsis infection following complications from taking abortion drugs in August 2022.

“But you see,” Harris said in her speech Friday, “under the Trump abortion ban, her doctors faced up to a decade in prison for providing Amber the care she needed.”

THE FACTS: The two women died after seeking chemical abortions, but there is no evidence that the state’s abortion ban is to blame for Thurman’s death or that her doctors faced penalties for treating her.

In 2019, Georgia passed a law banning abortion after six weeks gestation, approximately when fetal cardiac activity can be detected via ultrasound, a measure intended to take immediate effect when Roe was overturned.

But Thurman was approximately nine weeks pregnant with twins when she traveled to a North Carolina abortion clinic, where she was given mifepristone and misoprostol to take at home.

Five days after taking the abortion agent misoprostol, which induces contractions to expel the pregnancy tissue, Thurman presented at the emergency room on a stretcher with heavy bleeding, vomiting, foul-smelling vaginal discharge, critically elevated white blood cell count, and dropping blood pressure.

Thurman waited three hours before being administered antibiotics and more than 20 hours to receive a dilation and curettage, which involves dilating the patient’s cervix and surgically removing the remaining pregnancy tissue by scraping the inside of the uterus. But by that point, her organs had already begun to shut down, and she died on the operating table.

ProPublica cited a review committee that ruled that her death was preventable and that she might have survived if she had been provided with a D&C earlier.
But the provision of the D&C would not have been illegal under the state’s law. In Thurman’s case, ultrasound confirmed that both of her twins were already deceased by the time she had reached the hospital, according to medical reports. That means that any heartbeat provision in the state law preventing a D&C of viable fetuses would not have applied.

ProPublica did not cite any experts blaming the law for the death of Thurman. Anti-abortion doctors and legal experts have said that the law did not prevent her from receiving treatment.

Dr. Christina Francis, CEO of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, told reporters before Harris’s speech that the signs Thurman presented with “would indicate a very severe bacterial infection.”

“In the setting of an induced abortion, the physician seeing her must suspect incomplete abortion,” Francis said. “In fact, any first year OB resident would be able to make that diagnosis, given those symptoms.”

The care necessary to treat Thurman’s severe infection would have been, according to Francis and her colleague, Dr. Ingrid Skopp, also an OB/GYN and and anti-abortion advocate, to quickly administer antibiotics and perform a D&C.

Katie Daniel, state policy director for SBA Pro-Life America, told reporters ahead of Harris’s speech that the argument that Georgia’s abortion ban caused these preventable deaths is “flatly false.”

“Georgia bans procedures that cause the death of an unborn child whose heart is beating without a lawful justification,” Daniel said. “It did not ban any particular procedure. A D&C can always be performed if it is medically indicated to treat miscarriages or to treat abortion complications.”....

....Abortion pill complications


After Harris’s speech concluded, Francis told the Washington Examiner in a statement that the abortion drug mifepristone used by both Thurman and Miller was the primary cause of their unfortunate deaths, not anti-abortion laws.

“Deaths due to legal abortion drugs are the expected result of deregulating and falsely promoting them as safe, both of which the Biden-Harris administration has led efforts to do,” Francis said. “All state pro-life laws allow physicians to save the lives of pregnant women.”

The FDA’s warning label for mifepristone estimates that between 2.9% and 4.6% of medication abortion patients will seek emergency medical treatment due to life-threatening infection and sustained bleeding following a medication abortion.


A peer reviewed study of Medicaid-eligible women conducted by the Charlotte Lozier Institute, the research arm of SBA, found that they were “significantly more likely to have a severe or critical acuity rating” within 30 days of a self-administered medication abortion than other women seeking emergency medical attention.

By 2015, more than 75% of visits following abortion-pill usage were rated in the “severe or critical” categories, compared to 66% for surgical abortions and 57% for live births....
=============================================
Harris is just fear mongering to Georgia voters. She is just preying on the fact that most voters don't understand Medicine. The most prevalent kind of abortion in the entire US is chemical abortion. Harris want access to the drugs without medical supervision. This woman took mifepristone and it kill her babies and she did not expel them from her uterus. That caused infection and a large amount of foul smelling vaginal discharge and bleeding and a elevated white blood cell count. Those are clear signs of an incomplete abortion and sepsis. This woman's babies were already dead. This was a medical emergency and she should have gone to surgery immediately. This is a case of medical malpractice and does not have anything to do with Georgia abortion law.

When I was a intern I assisted on a case where a woman had a legal surgical abortion where the woman had retained products of conception and she presented with foul discharge bleeding fever and elevated blood count. We gave her antibiotics and she was in surgery within 2 hours after arrival to the ER. She survived.
FAKE NEWS!

Try again!
 
Girs have bled out in hospital parking lots. They are not getting timely treatment because doctors are afraid of the pregnancy police.
Care to prove your claim. And who denied them life saving blood transfusions. I'd be interested to know. And what the hell is a girs?
 
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