Getting our terminology straight.

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

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Full Definition of radical

1 : of, relating to, or proceeding from a root: as a (1) : of or growing from the root of a plant <radical tubers> (2) : growing from the base of a stem, from a rootlike stem, or from a stem that does not rise above the ground <radical leaves> b : of, relating to, or constituting a linguistic root c : of or relating to a mathematical root d : designed to remove the root of a disease or all diseased and potentially diseased tissue <radical surgery> <radical mastectomy>

2 : of or relating to the origin : fundamental

3 a : very different from the usual or traditional : extreme b : favoring extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions c : associated with political views, practices, and policies of extreme change d : advocating extreme measures to retain or restore a political state of affairs <the radical right>


Full Definition of radicalize
radicalized
radicalizing

transitive verb

: to make radical especially in politics



Now recently you have heard the term "self-radicalization" used to describe the perpetrator of the recent Orlando night club mass murder. This falls in step with the drum beat of the word "radicalization" that has become synonymous in our press with the (what use to be called) the extreme/fringe Islamic fundamentalist groups and individuals that have been causing mayhem and death in the world for nearly 15 years now (aka Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, Hamas, Boko Haram, etc.). Any individual who is of (or converts to)the Islamic faith and adheres to the aforementioned mindset are said to be "radicalized".

But

I have YET to hear this terminology used to describe the many and continuing acts of violence and murder against abortion clinics and those of their medical staff. Make no mistake, this is an ongoing situation: http://prochoice.org/education-and-advocacy/violence/violence-statistics-and-history/

I ask: why is this? The MAJOR impetus for these abortion clinic/personnel attacks is a RADICAL interpretation of the Christian faith...but no one calls the individual perpetrators being "radicalized" or the advocacy groups calling for "radicalization".

So is there a bias in this reporting? A set body count to be achieved before such a term is attached to a religious belief as if it were a normal occurrence? Or does violence done in the name of religion has different designation determined by each individual faith? One has to wonder.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
Full Definition of radical

1 : of, relating to, or proceeding from a root: as a (1) : of or growing from the root of a plant <radical tubers> (2) : growing from the base of a stem, from a rootlike stem, or from a stem that does not rise above the ground <radical leaves> b : of, relating to, or constituting a linguistic root c : of or relating to a mathematical root d : designed to remove the root of a disease or all diseased and potentially diseased tissue <radical surgery> <radical mastectomy>

2 : of or relating to the origin : fundamental

3 a : very different from the usual or traditional : extreme b : favoring extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions c : associated with political views, practices, and policies of extreme change d : advocating extreme measures to retain or restore a political state of affairs <the radical right>


Full Definition of radicalize
radicalized
radicalizing

transitive verb

: to make radical especially in politics



Now recently you have heard the term "self-radicalization" used to describe the perpetrator of the recent Orlando night club mass murder. This falls in step with the drum beat of the word "radicalization" that has become synonymous in our press with the (what use to be called) the extreme/fringe Islamic fundamentalist groups and individuals that have been causing mayhem and death in the world for nearly 15 years now (aka Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, Hamas, Boko Haram, etc.). Any individual who is of (or converts to)the Islamic faith and adheres to the aforementioned mindset are said to be "radicalized".

But

I have YET to hear this terminology used to describe the many and continuing acts of violence and murder against abortion clinics and those of their medical staff. Make no mistake, this is an ongoing situation: http://prochoice.org/education-and-advocacy/violence/violence-statistics-and-history/

I ask: why is this? The MAJOR impetus for these abortion clinic/personnel attacks is a RADICAL interpretation of the Christian faith...but no one calls the individual perpetrators being "radicalized" or the advocacy groups calling for "radicalization".

So is there a bias in this reporting? A set body count to be achieved before such a term is attached to a religious belief as if it were a normal occurrence? Or does violence done in the name of religion has different designation determined by each individual faith? One has to wonder.
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How many Islamic attacks the last year? Abortion clinics?

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Don't close this thread, Teflon is a clown.

Yes, many people have been slaughtered by Muslim fundamentalism. But there is more to the Christian fundamentalist slaughter than many American evangelists want to admit. Was Timothy McVeigh a home-grown terrorist? Was Dylann Roof a Christian soldier? Was the hanging of blacks by the KKK Christians terrorism? Was burning of witches terrorism? Was Omar Mateen a fundamentalist? Or was he pissed off that gays rejected him?

This is a vitally important thread. And thank you, Taichiliberal for starting it.

Americans should reject fundamentalist furor from any quarter. Terrorism is their call sign, and death is their calling card. We are a country of assimilation and understanding. When we lose that to the likes of a twerp like Drumpf, we lessen the value of our tolerance.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Full Definition of radical

1 : of, relating to, or proceeding from a root: as a (1) : of or growing from the root of a plant <radical tubers> (2) : growing from the base of a stem, from a rootlike stem, or from a stem that does not rise above the ground <radical leaves> b : of, relating to, or constituting a linguistic root c : of or relating to a mathematical root d : designed to remove the root of a disease or all diseased and potentially diseased tissue <radical surgery> <radical mastectomy>

2 : of or relating to the origin : fundamental

3 a : very different from the usual or traditional : extreme b : favoring extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions c : associated with political views, practices, and policies of extreme change d : advocating extreme measures to retain or restore a political state of affairs <the radical right>


Full Definition of radicalize
radicalized
radicalizing

transitive verb

: to make radical especially in politics



Now recently you have heard the term "self-radicalization" used to describe the perpetrator of the recent Orlando night club mass murder. This falls in step with the drum beat of the word "radicalization" that has become synonymous in our press with the (what use to be called) the extreme/fringe Islamic fundamentalist groups and individuals that have been causing mayhem and death in the world for nearly 15 years now (aka Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, Hamas, Boko Haram, etc.). Any individual who is of (or converts to)the Islamic faith and adheres to the aforementioned mindset are said to be "radicalized".

But

I have YET to hear this terminology used to describe the many and continuing acts of violence and murder against abortion clinics and those of their medical staff. Make no mistake, this is an ongoing situation: http://prochoice.org/education-and-advocacy/violence/violence-statistics-and-history/

I ask: why is this? The MAJOR impetus for these abortion clinic/personnel attacks is a RADICAL interpretation of the Christian faith...but no one calls the individual perpetrators being "radicalized" or the advocacy groups calling for "radicalization".

So is there a bias in this reporting? A set body count to be achieved before such a term is attached to a religious belief as if it were a normal occurrence? Or does violence done in the name of religion has different designation determined by each individual faith? One has to wonder.
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A big part of the problem is the frequency of anti-abortion terrorism. It just doesn't happen often enough relative to Islamic terrorism to rate a term by the press.

Write to the editor of your local paper and ask him to use the term radical Christian next time it happens. Be patient though because it's probably going to be a while lol.
 
ROFLMAO

How long are these lefties going to ride the Timothy McVeigh train as a moral equivalence for muslime terrorism?

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-- In June 2009, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad killed a soldier outside a recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas.
-- Major Nidal Malik Hasan shot and killed 13 people at Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas.
-- Shahzad's 2010 attempt to bomb Times Square was foiled when his bomb did not ignite properly.
-- Yonathan Melaku's drive-by shooting of military facilities in Northern Virginia in 2011 produced no casualties.
-- The Boston Marathon bombers killed four and wounded hundreds of others in April 2013.
-- San Bernardino was committed by muslimes

Weren't those douchebags shooting from freeways muslimes too?
Now please list all the people killed in abortion clinic attacks since 2011?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Full Definition of radical

1 : of, relating to, or proceeding from a root: as a (1) : of or growing from the root of a plant <radical tubers> (2) : growing from the base of a stem, from a rootlike stem, or from a stem that does not rise above the ground <radical leaves> b : of, relating to, or constituting a linguistic root c : of or relating to a mathematical root d : designed to remove the root of a disease or all diseased and potentially diseased tissue <radical surgery> <radical mastectomy>

2 : of or relating to the origin : fundamental

3 a : very different from the usual or traditional : extreme b : favoring extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions c : associated with political views, practices, and policies of extreme change d : advocating extreme measures to retain or restore a political state of affairs <the radical right>


Full Definition of radicalize
radicalized
radicalizing

transitive verb

: to make radical especially in politics



Now recently you have heard the term "self-radicalization" used to describe the perpetrator of the recent Orlando night club mass murder. This falls in step with the drum beat of the word "radicalization" that has become synonymous in our press with the (what use to be called) the extreme/fringe Islamic fundamentalist groups and individuals that have been causing mayhem and death in the world for nearly 15 years now (aka Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, Hamas, Boko Haram, etc.). Any individual who is of (or converts to)the Islamic faith and adheres to the aforementioned mindset are said to be "radicalized".

But

I have YET to hear this terminology used to describe the many and continuing acts of violence and murder against abortion clinics and those of their medical staff. Make no mistake, this is an ongoing situation: http://prochoice.org/education-and-advocacy/violence/violence-statistics-and-history/

I ask: why is this? The MAJOR impetus for these abortion clinic/personnel attacks is a RADICAL interpretation of the Christian faith...but no one calls the individual perpetrators being "radicalized" or the advocacy groups calling for "radicalization".

So is there a bias in this reporting? A set body count to be achieved before such a term is attached to a religious belief as if it were a normal occurrence? Or does violence done in the name of religion has different designation determined by each individual faith? One has to wonder.
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Apples to oranges, granola cruncher. You're saying that radical muslim shitbags killing tradition destroying diseasebags is equivalent to outraged Christians killing murderers of our completely innocent unborn. We're all sick of your misdirected lamentations.

Every time a towel head takes down one of you democrats, it's to be expected, not mourned. You're the assholes defending them, so you're the assholes who should suffer the consequences. Enjoy the blood bath - you're helping create it.
 
Teflon Don said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Full Definition of radical

1 : of, relating to, or proceeding from a root: as a (1) : of or growing from the root of a plant <radical tubers> (2) : growing from the base of a stem, from a rootlike stem, or from a stem that does not rise above the ground <radical leaves> b : of, relating to, or constituting a linguistic root c : of or relating to a mathematical root d : designed to remove the root of a disease or all diseased and potentially diseased tissue <radical surgery> <radical mastectomy>

2 : of or relating to the origin : fundamental

3 a : very different from the usual or traditional : extreme b : favoring extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions c : associated with political views, practices, and policies of extreme change d : advocating extreme measures to retain or restore a political state of affairs <the radical right>


Full Definition of radicalize
radicalized
radicalizing

transitive verb

: to make radical especially in politics



Now recently you have heard the term "self-radicalization" used to describe the perpetrator of the recent Orlando night club mass murder. This falls in step with the drum beat of the word "radicalization" that has become synonymous in our press with the (what use to be called) the extreme/fringe Islamic fundamentalist groups and individuals that have been causing mayhem and death in the world for nearly 15 years now (aka Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, Hamas, Boko Haram, etc.). Any individual who is of (or converts to)the Islamic faith and adheres to the aforementioned mindset are said to be "radicalized".

But

I have YET to hear this terminology used to describe the many and continuing acts of violence and murder against abortion clinics and those of their medical staff. Make no mistake, this is an ongoing situation: http://prochoice.org/education-and-a...s-and-history/

I ask: why is this? The MAJOR impetus for these abortion clinic/personnel attacks is a RADICAL interpretation of the Christian faith...but no one calls the individual perpetrators being "radicalized" or the advocacy groups calling for "radicalization".

So is there a bias in this reporting? A set body count to be achieved before such a term is attached to a religious belief as if it were a normal occurrence? Or does violence done in the name of religion has different designation determined by each individual faith? One has to wonder.
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How many Islamic attacks the last year? Abortion clinics?

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One of a closed mind obviously did not read the link!

11/2015 Colorado MURDER AND ATTEMPTED MURDER (SHOOTING) Officer Garrett Swasey, Ke'Arre Stewart, and Jennifer Markovsky were killed when a gunman entered a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs and held staff and patients hostage. Nine other people were injured in the attack. Robert Lewis Dear has been charged with murder and attempted murder and is in custody.

10/2015 California ARSON Open
9/2015 Washington ARSON Open
8/2015 Louisiana ARSON Open
7/2015 Illinois ARSON Open
 
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Teflon Don said:
-- In June 2009, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad killed a soldier outside a recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas.
-- Major Nidal Malik Hasan shot and killed 13 people at Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas.
-- Shahzad's 2010 attempt to bomb Times Square was foiled when his bomb did not ignite properly.
-- Yonathan Melaku's drive-by shooting of military facilities in Northern Virginia in 2011 produced no casualties.
-- The Boston Marathon bombers killed four and wounded hundreds of others in April 2013.
-- San Bernardino was committed by muslimes

Weren't those douchebags shooting from freeways muslimes too?
Now please list all the people killed in abortion clinic attacks since 2011?
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Again, your closed mind DID NOT READ THE LINK! Again, is there a required body count to obtain the term "radicalized"?

11/2014 Alabama ARSON Open
3/2013 Montana VANDALISM $500,000 Zachery Klundt severely vandalized and destroyed a clinic in Kalispell, Montana. He was sentenced to 5 years in prison and ordered to pay $642,477.29 in restitution, plus about an additional $27,000 to other parties.
1/2012 Florida ARSON Bobby Joe Rogers was sentenced to 10 years for arson and damaging a reproductive health facility.
5/2012 Georgia ARSON Open
5/2012 Georgia ARSON Open
5/2012 Missouri ATTEMPTED ARSON Jedediah Stout is charged with attempted arson. Trial pending.
4/2012 Wisconsin ARSON
5/2011 Wisconsin ATTEMPTED MURDER Ralph Lang was convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison for attempted first-degree intentional homicide. Lang admitted to police that he planned to shoot abortion providers at a nearby Planned Parenthood the next day. Lang was also sentenced to 10 years of extended supervision.
7/2011 Texas ARSON Open
8/2011 Michigan BOMBING Open
5/2009 Kansas MURDER Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed in his church in Wichita, Kansas. Anti-abortion extremist Scott Roeder confessed to the murder and was found guilty of first-degree murder and two counts of aggravated assault and sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole in 50 years.
 
Teflon Don said:
ROFLMAO

How long are these lefties going to ride the Timothy McVeigh train as a moral equivalence for muslime terrorism?

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As you can see, folks...we have yet another will fully ignorant right wing crank who REFUSES to read the information in the link or answer the questions in the OP. Typical intellectually impotent Donny, who is teflon coated against facts, logic and critical thinking. Case in point: Donny cannot produce ONE QUOTE or PROPOSED LEGISLATION by the Obama administration that would rescind the 2nd Amendment. But that doesn't stop clowns like Donny from falsely claiming so over and over and over.
 
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Darth Hussein Omar said:
A big part of the problem is the frequency of anti-abortion terrorism. It just doesn't happen often enough relative to Islamic terrorism to rate a term by the press.

Write to the editor of your local paper and ask him to use the term radical Christian next time it happens. Be patient though because it's probably going to be a while lol.
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Actually, the link shows different, BUT, since the fatalities are far less, they don't get the national press ("if it bleeds, it leads). But I'm appreciative that you get my point regarding the media bias in labeling.
 
Granule said:
Apples to oranges, granola cruncher. You're saying that radical muslim shitbags killing tradition destroying diseasebags is equivalent to outraged Christians killing murderers of our completely innocent unborn. We're all sick of your misdirected lamentations.

Every time a towel head takes down one of you democrats, it's to be expected, not mourned. You're the assholes defending them, so you're the assholes who should suffer the consequences. Enjoy the blood bath - you're helping create it.
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And here's a perfect example of what I'm referring to folks.....irrational, intellectually impotent ravings from bigoted bumpkins (I guess the cops killed is just collateral damage for a POS like Granule)....I just took this fool off of IA long enough to confirm my suspicions...."radicalized" Christians are no different than "radicalized" muslims....they just have a lower body count. Back into the dumpster with him.
 
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