Guess Who Cheats The Most On Taxes? THE RICH!

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Rich Cheat More On Taxes, New Study Shows
Janet Novack, 10.21.08, 3:01 PM ET


Washington, D.C. - A new study based on unpublished Internal Revenue Service data shows the rich are different when it comes to paying taxes: They hide more of their income.

The previously unreported study estimates that taxpayers whose true income was between $500,000 and $1 million a year understated their adjusted gross incomes by 21% overall in 2001, compared to an 8% underreporting rate for those earning $50,000 to $100,000 and even lower rates for those earning less. (The "net misreporting rate" as the IRS calls it, includes both underreported income and inflated deductions.)

In all, because of their higher noncompliance rates, those with true incomes of $200,000 or more received 25% of all income, but accounted for 40% of net underreported income and 42% of underreported tax in 2001, the new analysis finds.

The study was written by Joel Slemrod, an economics professor and director of the Office of Tax Policy Research at the University of Michigan's business school and IRS economist Andrew Johns. It has not been officially endorsed or even released by the IRS and seems sure to add fuel to the election season debate over whether those earning $250,000 or more should pay higher tax rates, as Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, has proposed.

The Slemrod/Johns analysis uses unpublished data from special research audits the IRS conducted on a sample of 45,000 individual returns filed for 2001. It was the IRS' first such research effort since 1988, and it led the agency to estimate the 2001 gross "tax gap" at $345 billion.

The main reason for the income-related cheating disparity: Higher income folks receive more of their income from sources that are easier to hide, including self-employment earnings; income from rents, partnerships and S corporations; and capital gains.

"The distribution of noncompliance lines up pretty closely with who gets income that's hard (for the IRS) to keep track of,'' Slemrod says. Still, he notes, the distribution of income by source doesn't explain all the increased noncompliance at higher income levels.

In its 2001 tax gap study, the IRS estimated that individuals underreported business income by 43% overall. Sole proprietors, who report self-employment income on schedule C of their tax returns, underreported their income a stunning 57%.

By contrast, the IRS found, 99% of all wages were reported by individual tax filers. The obvious explanation is that workers have no choice--their employers report their earnings to the IRS and withhold taxes on them.

Meanwhile, net capital gains for 2001 were underreported by 12%, the IRS estimated. The IRS receives reports from brokers of taxpayers' gross sales of stocks and bonds, but not of their initial costs or profits--therefore it has no way to easily check their reported capital gains. (Last month, as part of the $700 billion bailout bill, Congress mandated that brokers report the basis of any stocks bought in 2011 or later.)

The new study seems to show that the really rich are more tax compliant than the merely well-off, although not nearly as compliant as middle- and working-class wage slaves. Those earning $2 million plus had an 11% underreporting rate. But Slemrod told Forbes that he was "less comfortable" with that finding, noting that the very rich may have made use of techniques that IRS research audits didn't detect.

"I just don't know whether these audits were able to track down really sophisticated noncompliance or Swiss bank accounts. They may underestimate it (noncompliance) at the top,'' he says.

Indeed, in the past several years, the IRS has collected billions in back taxes from wealthy taxpayers who used dicey tax shelters to manufacture huge phony losses in the late 1990s, 2000 and 2001. But the IRS didn't get a handle on the nature or extent of these shelters until years later and relied on tax shelter promoters' customer lists and special self-disclosure programs, not audits, to find most of the taxpayers involved.

Currently, the government is suing UBS (nyse: UBS - news - people ) for the names of 18,000 wealthy Americans it believes may have had unreported Swiss bank accounts.

http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/10/21/taxes-irs-wealth-biz-beltway-cz_jn_1021beltway.html


CK has been saying for years that the rich do not pay their fair share of taxes... But the dumb conservatives on here who keep on saying its the poor who dont pay taxes....

Well people like damocles, dano, and dixie just got owned...The 3 dumbasses

CK
 
And what was that about 2/3 of corporations not payin any income tax ?


The myths of the right. Sure they are right, but do they have anything correct ?
 
Rich Cheat More On Taxes, New Study Shows
Janet Novack, 10.21.08, 3:01 PM ET


Washington, D.C. - A new study based on unpublished Internal Revenue Service data shows the rich are different when it comes to paying taxes: They hide more of their income.

The previously unreported study estimates that taxpayers whose true income was between $500,000 and $1 million a year understated their adjusted gross incomes by 21% overall in 2001, compared to an 8% underreporting rate for those earning $50,000 to $100,000 and even lower rates for those earning less. (The "net misreporting rate" as the IRS calls it, includes both underreported income and inflated deductions.)

In all, because of their higher noncompliance rates, those with true incomes of $200,000 or more received 25% of all income, but accounted for 40% of net underreported income and 42% of underreported tax in 2001, the new analysis finds.

The study was written by Joel Slemrod, an economics professor and director of the Office of Tax Policy Research at the University of Michigan's business school and IRS economist Andrew Johns. It has not been officially endorsed or even released by the IRS and seems sure to add fuel to the election season debate over whether those earning $250,000 or more should pay higher tax rates, as Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, has proposed.

The Slemrod/Johns analysis uses unpublished data from special research audits the IRS conducted on a sample of 45,000 individual returns filed for 2001. It was the IRS' first such research effort since 1988, and it led the agency to estimate the 2001 gross "tax gap" at $345 billion.

The main reason for the income-related cheating disparity: Higher income folks receive more of their income from sources that are easier to hide, including self-employment earnings; income from rents, partnerships and S corporations; and capital gains.

"The distribution of noncompliance lines up pretty closely with who gets income that's hard (for the IRS) to keep track of,'' Slemrod says. Still, he notes, the distribution of income by source doesn't explain all the increased noncompliance at higher income levels.

In its 2001 tax gap study, the IRS estimated that individuals underreported business income by 43% overall. Sole proprietors, who report self-employment income on schedule C of their tax returns, underreported their income a stunning 57%.

By contrast, the IRS found, 99% of all wages were reported by individual tax filers. The obvious explanation is that workers have no choice--their employers report their earnings to the IRS and withhold taxes on them.

Meanwhile, net capital gains for 2001 were underreported by 12%, the IRS estimated. The IRS receives reports from brokers of taxpayers' gross sales of stocks and bonds, but not of their initial costs or profits--therefore it has no way to easily check their reported capital gains. (Last month, as part of the $700 billion bailout bill, Congress mandated that brokers report the basis of any stocks bought in 2011 or later.)

The new study seems to show that the really rich are more tax compliant than the merely well-off, although not nearly as compliant as middle- and working-class wage slaves. Those earning $2 million plus had an 11% underreporting rate. But Slemrod told Forbes that he was "less comfortable" with that finding, noting that the very rich may have made use of techniques that IRS research audits didn't detect.

"I just don't know whether these audits were able to track down really sophisticated noncompliance or Swiss bank accounts. They may underestimate it (noncompliance) at the top,'' he says.

Indeed, in the past several years, the IRS has collected billions in back taxes from wealthy taxpayers who used dicey tax shelters to manufacture huge phony losses in the late 1990s, 2000 and 2001. But the IRS didn't get a handle on the nature or extent of these shelters until years later and relied on tax shelter promoters' customer lists and special self-disclosure programs, not audits, to find most of the taxpayers involved.

Currently, the government is suing UBS (nyse: UBS - news - people ) for the names of 18,000 wealthy Americans it believes may have had unreported Swiss bank accounts.

http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/10/21/taxes-irs-wealth-biz-beltway-cz_jn_1021beltway.html


CK has been saying for years that the rich do not pay their fair share of taxes... But the dumb conservatives on here who keep on saying its the poor who dont pay taxes....

Well people like damocles, dano, and dixie just got owned...The 3 dumbasses

CK
I can totally believe the article.
But you have to remember that even with cheating they still pay the vast majority of taxes. That's what they mean above by "underreporting".
 
I'm all for a flat tax (the rich would still pay most taxes), but most supporters of that have traditionally been Repubs (Forbes supporters as the best example). I've seen a few Dems express interest but not too many.
 
I fully support a pure flat tax on all personal income. No deductions, no exemptions. Except SS income should be tax free until after you have drawn out more than you paid in.
 
I fully support a pure flat tax on all personal income. No deductions, no exemptions. Except SS income should be tax free until after you have drawn out more than you paid in.

The Conservatives would never buy it.... Thats why the Bush Presidency made the tax code 1000 page long so that they can get all these deductions, tax breaks, and offshore havens put in for their lobbyist and oil men friends...

CK
 
HEY GUYS I'VE GOT A GOOD IDEA LETS MASSIVELY RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS!


Ever wonder why no one listens to you flat tax nuts? You claim ridiculous things about flat taxes. They will, apparently, mow your lawn, and keep your daughter from getting knocked up. They will both raise and lower taxes on the rich, and everyone will pay less, and we'll be able to balance the budget.

That's why no one listens to you, because your claims are outright obviously made up and ridiculous. The flat tax is by far the worst tax reform imaginable.
 
This sounds like a huge news flash, but its not.

The poor don't cheat on taxes as much as the rich? And the middle class don't cheat on taxes as much as the rich?

It sounds profound, but its not.


The poor & middle class tend to work for an employer. The earn wages or a salary, from which the employer withholds taxes.

They file to get a refund. Even if they have to pay, they can't hide what the employer turns in as earn wages.



The rich have money in so many places it is possible to hide the money.

If you think the poor and the middle class are any more honest you are misguided and mistaken.
 
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