History lesson

he keeps going back in history 50 years thinking that it has some bearing on what the parties are now.

He refuses to pay any attention to how they are now.

living in the past , what a consumate fool
 
Hard right core types have nothing in the present Desh.
They are lost and have no real leader.
And considering they are unable to think for themselves...well it is a tragedy.
 
maineman said:
his decision to kick off his post-convention campaign in Philadephia, Mississsippi and make "states rights" a hallmark of his speech there was strictly coincidental.
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Contrary to the 1800's, not all that favor 'state's rights' are racists, you know better than that.
 
indisputable said:
Can you name a single racist act that Ronald Reagan committed, liberals?

Want a list of racist acts perpetrated by Jackass Party members?
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I met a Chinese (Taiwanese) former actress who once starred in a film with Reagan. She said he was a nice bloke but a bit dense. She didn't say if he was racist though. And this was when he was president (1984). It was in Los Angeles.
 
Kathianne said:
Contrary to the 1800's, not all that favor 'state's rights' are racists, you know better than that.
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I know that in the south, "state's rights" is a long understood codeword for the right to segregate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States'_rights#States.27_rights_as_.22code_word.22

"The term "states' rights", some have argued, was used as a code word by defenders of segregation, and was the official name of the "Dixiecrat" party led by segregationist presidential candidate Strom Thurmond. George Wallace, the Alabama governor, who famously declared in his inaugural address, "Segregation now! Segregation tomorrow! Segregation forever!", later remarked that he should have said, "States' rights now! States' rights tomorrow! States' rights forever!" Wallace, however, claimed that segregation was but one issue symbolic of a larger struggle for states' rights; in that view, which some historians dispute, his replacement of segregation with states' rights would be more of a clarification than a euphemism."


I know that ther sleepy little town of Philadelphia Mississippi, in the summer of 1980, was known for one thing: the fact that the murderers of civil rights workers killed decades earlier were walking around free.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia,_Mississippi

"Philadelphia is most famous as the site of the murder of three civil rights workers in 1964. This incident later became the basis for the movie Mississippi Burning. Eighteen persons, including the sheriff and deputy sheriff, were charged by the U.S. Department of Justice for violating the civil rights of the three dead men; 7 were convicted. No legal action was taken on the actual murders by the state of Mississippi until 2005, when one of the participants, Edgar Ray Killen, was convicted on three counts of manslaughter (one for each of the dead men).

In 1980 Ronald Reagan gave his first post-convention speech after being officially chosen as the Republican nominee for President of the United States a few miles from Philadelphia, announcing at the annual Neshoba County Fair, that with specific regard to economic policy, "I believe in states' rights ... believe we have distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended to be given in the Constitution to that federal establishment." He went on to promise to "restore to states and local governments the power that properly belongs to them".

Some thought Reagan's speech marked the continuation of the successful Republican "Southern strategy"; this was supposedly evidence of Reagan's libertarian belief in federalism and a greater role for states in determining their own policies. However, given the history of Philadelphia, and Reagan's use of the words "states' rights", often interpreted as a desire to return to pre-Civil War laws regarding segregation, many felt that Reagan was at least insensitive to the concerns of blacks, or that he even was using this location and these words as a cynical appeal to the white racist vote"


Chosing THAT town and using THAT codeword in his very first campaign speech after getting the republican nomination was not, in my humble opinion, coincidental.
 
maineman said:
I know that in the south, "state's rights" is a long understood codeword for the right to segregate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States'_rights#States.27_rights_as_.22code_word.22

"The term "states' rights", some have argued, was used as a code word by defenders of segregation, and was the official name of the "Dixiecrat" party led by segregationist presidential candidate Strom Thurmond. George Wallace, the Alabama governor, who famously declared in his inaugural address, "Segregation now! Segregation tomorrow! Segregation forever!", later remarked that he should have said, "States' rights now! States' rights tomorrow! States' rights forever!" Wallace, however, claimed that segregation was but one issue symbolic of a larger struggle for states' rights; in that view, which some historians dispute, his replacement of segregation with states' rights would be more of a clarification than a euphemism."


I know that ther sleepy little town of Philadelphia Mississippi, in the summer of 1980, was known for one thing: the fact that the murderers of civil rights workers killed decades earlier were walking around free.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia,_Mississippi

"Philadelphia is most famous as the site of the murder of three civil rights workers in 1964. This incident later became the basis for the movie Mississippi Burning. Eighteen persons, including the sheriff and deputy sheriff, were charged by the U.S. Department of Justice for violating the civil rights of the three dead men; 7 were convicted. No legal action was taken on the actual murders by the state of Mississippi until 2005, when one of the participants, Edgar Ray Killen, was convicted on three counts of manslaughter (one for each of the dead men).

In 1980 Ronald Reagan gave his first post-convention speech after being officially chosen as the Republican nominee for President of the United States a few miles from Philadelphia, announcing at the annual Neshoba County Fair, that with specific regard to economic policy, "I believe in states' rights ... believe we have distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended to be given in the Constitution to that federal establishment." He went on to promise to "restore to states and local governments the power that properly belongs to them".

Some thought Reagan's speech marked the continuation of the successful Republican "Southern strategy"; this was supposedly evidence of Reagan's libertarian belief in federalism and a greater role for states in determining their own policies. However, given the history of Philadelphia, and Reagan's use of the words "states' rights", often interpreted as a desire to return to pre-Civil War laws regarding segregation, many felt that Reagan was at least insensitive to the concerns of blacks, or that he even was using this location and these words as a cynical appeal to the white racist vote"


Chosing THAT town and using THAT codeword in his very first campaign speech after getting the republican nomination was not, in my humble opinion, coincidental.
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And Reagan wasn't from the South, nor am I. I want states to resume control of the issues that should be their areas: education, marriage, etc.

I
 
Kathianne said:
Contrary to the 1800's, not all that favor 'state's rights' are racists, you know better than that.
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Reagan needed racist votes. "States rights" was the the cause celebre, for racists, whether or not Reagan himself was racist (I think he was). Reagan, as a Politician, and the GOP at large knew they could dominate the south by winning over the old Dixiecrat vote. They knew they could become a majority on the backs of racists. It was premeditated.

And I'm sure his continual use of the Welfare Queen analogy was intentional too. A dog whistle of sorts.
 
Kathianne said:
And Reagan wasn't from the South, nor am I. I want states to resume control of the issues that should be their areas: education, marriage, etc.

I
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Philadelphia, Mississippi.... states rights....very first campaign stop after getting the nomination...

you can claim there was no connection, but denial ain't no river in Egypt.:pke:
 
Diuretic said:
I met a Chinese (Taiwanese) former actress who once starred in a film with Reagan. She said he was a nice bloke but a bit dense. She didn't say if he was racist though. And this was when he was president (1984). It was in Los Angeles.
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Why do you think the GOP picked an actor?

I always got the feeling the guy was doing a part.

Both him and Nancy just seemed so distant and unreal as people.

I love how he just got a pass for Iran contra. I never understood why it was OK for him to be so stupid as to allow this to be done right under his nose. Weak, stupid or complicit take your choice. Personally I think he was all three.
 
Indefensible, Desh is left of me but I will take her opinions any day over yours. Desh is a good humanist. What I see of you scares me.
 
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