Judge dismisses Nevada caucus challenge

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LAS VEGAS - A union with ties to Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton failed in court Thursday to prevent casino workers from caucusing at special precincts in Nevada.

The ruling by U.S. District Court Judge James Mahan was presumed to be a boost for Clinton rival Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential caucuses Saturday because he has been endorsed by the union representing many of the shift workers who will be able to use the precincts on the Las Vegas strip.

"State Democrats have a First Amendment right to association, to assemble and to set their own rules," Mahan said.

Nevada's Democratic Party approved creation of the precincts to make it easier for housekeepers, waitresses and bellhops to caucus during the day near work rather than have to do so in their neighborhoods.

The state teachers union, which has ties to Clinton, brought the suit against the special precincts shortly after local 226 of the Culinary Workers Union endorsed Obama for the Democratic nomination. The union is the largest in Nevada, with 60,000 members. The Clinton campaign said it was not involved in the suit.

The suit contended party rules allowing the precincts gave too much power to the casino workers and violated federal equal protection guarantees.

But the judge said, "We aren't voting here, we're caucusing. That's something that parties decide."

He said it is "up to the national party and the state party to promulgate these rules and enforce them."

The Democratic National Committee ratified the state party's rules in August.

The Obama campaign applauded the decision, and in a statement, criticized Clinton's operation.

"While the Clinton camp clearly believed the voices of workers should be silenced in service of their perceived political interest, they enjoyed a 25-point lead two months ago and have much of the party establishment in their camp. So, despite their inherent advantages we are pleased this should be a close and competitive contest Saturday," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

Opinion polls find Clinton, Obama and John Edwards in a statistical dead heat in the Nevada race. Each has made a vigorous bid for union support.

Opponents of the strip precincts said they could be more valuable in the delegate count than some sparsely populated counties, giving them too much clout. The Culinary Union said the suit was an attempt to disenfranchise its members. "Backers of Hillary Clinton are suing in court to take away our right to vote in the caucuses," a union flier said.

Under the rules, the nine at-large precincts will be open to any shift employee working within 2.5 miles of the strip. By one estimate, more than 700 of the roughly 10,000 delegates to the state party's presidential nominating convention could be selected at the casino caucuses, depending on turnout.

Obama has also collected the endorsement of the Nevada chapter of the Service Employees International Union. The close nature of the contest and the logistics of caucuses created an intense struggle for labor's support, given its ability to organize and mobilize.
 
I think lots of Repubs were hoping that they would not be allowed to vote there either. I think in the long run the Repubs want hillary more than Edwards or Obama.
 
Why do people keep mentioning Edwards as if he stands a chance? He is done, stick a fork in him.
 
I think lots of Repubs were hoping that they would not be allowed to vote there either. I think in the long run the Repubs want hillary more than Edwards or Obama.

I have not met anybody other than single mothers, single women that want Hillery in office. Offer welfare, and our citizens vote. Republicans wanting her in office is 100% obsurd. it is liberial thinking McCane and Huckabee that the Democrats want nominated on the republican side. why do you think the national media puts them in the lime like like 85% of the time? And still covers Edwards, who dropped out--but still hanging around? It is all about jamming liberialism down our throats.

No way!! Hitlery doesn't to know anything about the law suit? That woman says "I don't recall that" more than any human on earth. And, the Clintons have hid many documents to support their claim of being not knowledgable.
 
Why do people keep mentioning Edwards as if he stands a chance? He is done, stick a fork in him.


I explained this in the "Edwards is Done" thread. The bottom line is that as long as he keeps getting delegates, he's still relevant since you need a majority, not a plurality, to gain the nomination.
 
I explained this in the "Edwards is Done" thread. The bottom line is that as long as he keeps getting delegates, he's still relevant since you need a majority, not a plurality, to gain the nomination.
And they will have it after this Super Tuesday. Much of the delegate apportionment is winner take all. He's done even if he collects a minimal amount of delegates.

Seriously, Ron Paul should be mentioned seriously as a proposed winner if this is your stance as he continues to get a few delegates...
 
Wrong the GOP........

I think lots of Repubs were hoping that they would not be allowed to vote there either. I think in the long run the Repubs want hillary more than Edwards or Obama.



has no problemo with easy access to voting!...as long as it is legal...however this may open a can of worms...alot of illegals work the service industry...sure hope they are monitored!
 
I haven't a clue why...........

And they will have it after this Super Tuesday. Much of the delegate apportionment is winner take all. He's done even if he collects a minimal amount of delegates.

Seriously, Ron Paul should be mentioned seriously as a proposed winner if this is your stance as he continues to get a few delegates...


but the rumor and conjecture in Nevada is that RP may do well...I suppose to take away from Obama and Hillary...thinking they will go against him...take them off guard is the speculation!
 
And they will have it after this Super Tuesday. Much of the delegate apportionment is winner take all. He's done even if he collects a minimal amount of delegates.

Seriously, Ron Paul should be mentioned seriously as a proposed winner if this is your stance as he continues to get a few delegates...


On the Democratic side they don't use winner-take-all delegate apportionment. As long as Edwards reached the 15% threshold he will continue to collect his share of delegates.

Keep in mind that I don't think for a minute that he can win. He is relevant in the sense that he can prevent one of the others from gaining a majority and thereby play the role of king maker.
 
On the Democratic side they don't use winner-take-all delegate apportionment. As long as Edwards reached the 15% threshold he will continue to collect his share of delegates.

Keep in mind that I don't think for a minute that he can win. He is relevant in the sense that he can prevent one of the others from gaining a majority and thereby play the role of king maker.
Relevant is fine. I think RP is relevant. He is mentioned as one proposed winner in your post. Or it reads that way.

He isn't going to win, he'll just keep Hillary out of it.... almost.
 
Relevant is fine. I think RP is relevant. He is mentioned as one proposed winner in your post. Or it reads that way.

He isn't going to win, he'll just keep Hillary out of it.... almost.


He isn't going to win, but he can cause the others to not win as well. I also think he serves as a buffer on the left. He's staking out the left-most flank among the Democrats making others appear more moderate than maybe they actually are. He's kind of like Tancredo on the right on immigration.
 
He isn't going to win, but he can cause the others to not win as well. I also think he serves as a buffer on the left. He's staking out the left-most flank among the Democrats making others appear more moderate than maybe they actually are. He's kind of like Tancredo on the right on immigration.
I was thinking Kucinich was more like a Tancredo with more staying power. He gets about the same number of votes as Tancredo would have...
 
On Super Tuesday only 51% of the available democratic delegates are in play. So someone is going to have to win almost all of them for Super Tuesday to have a decisive effect.
 
On Super Tuesday only 51% of the available democratic delegates are in play. So someone is going to have to win almost all of them for Super Tuesday to have a decisive effect.
It will give us a frontrunner, at least for the D two-man race. I think it will for Rs too.

Of course, they are counting places like CO as part of it and no delegates will be apportioned on Super Tuesday. We hold our caucuses that day and are running a straw poll. Our Primary is in August.
 
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