Kissing Cousins: Cheney Real Happy with Obama

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"I must say, I think it's a pretty good team," Cheney said. "I'm not close to Barack Obama, obviously, nor do I identify with him politically. He's a liberal. I'm a conservative."

Obama and Cheney

Well Cheney is not exactly right. Obama's choices for his national security team prove that both Cheney and Obama have a lot more in common than either would like to admit in public. Cheney is a well known NeoCon and Barack Obama is now demonstrating that he is a NeoLib. Both are quite similar.

But what is the difference between a NeoCon and a NeoLib?

The truth is there is not that much difference other than the NeoConNeoLib tends to identify with the Democratic Party. Both believe in the continuation of empire and the actions it takes to maintain empire. Both believe in big government to support the elite at the top in times of crises. Both believe in a country and a market that is controlled by an interlocking system of financial, business, and government interests (a commonly accepted definition of fascism). Both will maintain the military industrial complex at all costs.

Really the principal difference between a NeoCon and a NeoLib is that they each pretend to serve a different base of Americans. The NeoConNeoLib pretends to serve those that are concerned about government intrusion on individual rights, the struggling middle class, the working class, the poor, and all of those that feel the money for wars and weapons could be spent on better things.

This Liberal/Conservative dichotomy is a game that is played out so that the public never gets wise and looks behind the curtain to see just exactly the way the game is played. Election after election cycle the Republicans (supposed conservatives) battle it out with the Democrats (supposed liberals) for the soul of America and the direction of this great Republic. Well that is the game that is sold to the American people, and the public will continue to fall for it until things fall all around them.

So Cheney is happy with Obama's selection for the continuation of empire and it shouldn't be surprising. Obama's Clinton Administration is shaping up just like it should according to the reality of NeoCon and NeoLib political control.

The next election cycle--take my advice. If you want to see real change pull some out of your pocket. Hopefully we all have some left by then. Instead, forget about elections and start thinking about doing something to put pressure on the NeoLibs and the NeoCons in government to work for the American people right now. The NeoLibs and the NeoCons only answer to money and power. Most Americans don't have much money but they still have some power in numbers. If the politicians were to feel the power of the American people, they might actually start serving that power. That would mean the end of the phony left/right paradigm. But games are only fun for so long.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Cheney-and-Obama-by-Grant-Lawrence-081216-374.html

Bush-Obama-Cheney -- One big happy family.
 
This guy defines NeoLib as I did earlier, but heck according to the great and powerful Watermark, the definition is wrong...

We keep electing them, we will continue to pay the price.
 
This guy defines NeoLib as I did earlier, but heck according to the great and powerful Watermark, the definition is wrong...

We keep electing them, we will continue to pay the price.

Obama is a NeoLib by every definition. One day a Goggle search on "neolib" will return a picture of Barack Obama.

Unknown to most, the Project for a New American Century was a combination of neocons and neolibs.
 
I'm intrigued. Who are the PNAC NeoLibs?

One of them is none other than George W. Bush himself. He isn't really a true conservative and the "compassionate conservatism" he espouses is in fact, classic neoliberalism.

Robert Kagan is the poster-child for neoliberalism and he, along with neoconservative William Kristol, founded PNAC.

But it's less about the who in PNAC than it is about the underlying philosophy of capitialism by military force .. for thier own good of course.
 
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One of them is none other than George W. Bush himself. He isn't really a sonservative and the "compassionate conservatism" he espouses is in fact, classic neoliberalism.

Robert Kagan is the poster-child for neoliberalism and he, along with neoconservative William Kristol, founded PNAC.

But it's less about the who in PNAC than it is about the underlying philosophy of capitialism by military force .. for thier own good of course.


OK. So none?
 
OK. So none?

Neoliberalism is not a term familiar to Americans. In many aspects, neoliberals and neoconservatives are almost indistinguishable.

I would suggest study on neoliberalism and neoconservativism.

Neither are new and neither are conservative or liberal.
 
Neoliberalism is not a term familiar to Americans. In many aspects, neoliberals and neoconservatives are almost indistinguishable.

I would suggest study on neoliberalism and neoconservativism.

Neither are new and neither are conservative or liberal.


I'm aware of the terms and in my estimation you are misusing them or conflating them when they really describe two entirely separate set of beliefs in two entirely separate fields of public policy. Neoliberalism, as I understand it, is a term used to describe certain economic theories whereas neoconservativism is a term used to describe certain foreign policy theories. Neoliberalism is so named not is accordance with the left-right/liberal-conservative political spectrum but rather uses the term "liberal" in its classic economic sense.
 
I'm aware of the terms and in my estimation you are misusing them or conflating them when they really describe two entirely separate set of beliefs in two entirely separate fields of public policy. Neoliberalism, as I understand it, is a term used to describe certain economic theories whereas neoconservativism is a term used to describe certain foreign policy theories. Neoliberalism is so named not is accordance with the left-right/liberal-conservative political spectrum but rather uses the term "liberal" in its classic economic sense.

I'd suggest you study here ..
Neoliberal & Neoconservative Views
http://www.comw.org/pda/0709neosecuritypolicy.html

The problem as I see it is your misunderstanding of where both connect.

The DLC is neoliberal and their policies extend far beyond economics.
 
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