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Here's something to chew on next time you're complaining about the prices at the supermarket or your favorite fast food establishment:


Two dozen countries with a higher minimum wage than America’s


Outside of Washington, there’s less controversy over the issue. About 20 states already have a minimum wage that’s above the national average. Retailers such as Costco (COST), Whole Foods (WFM) and the Gap (GPS) have said they’ll set wages above the federal minimum, because it reduces employee turnover. Polls show that three-quarters of Americans favor raising the minimum wage. Even 43% percent of small-business owners — who, in theory would have the most to lose if the minimum wage went up — support hiking it.




http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-...2113410.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons
 
Food for thought....

http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2012.htm

1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid workers.

workers under age 25 made up about half of those paid the Federal minimum wage or less. Among employed teenagers paid by the hour, about 21 percent earned the minimum wage or less, compared with about 3 percent of workers age 25 and over.

About half of all workers paid at or below the federal minimum wage were employed in this industry, the vast majority in restaurants and other food services. For many of these workers, tips and commissions supplement the hourly wages received.
 
How many of those countries have their defense spending subsidized by us? I'm willing to bet it's all of them.
 
How many of those countries have their defense spending subsidized by us? I'm willing to bet it's all of them.

Don't try to get smart on me dude. Last time I talked to you about Foreign Policy you were just like everyone on this forum. All national.

To be real, I'm happy you are learning.
 
Don't try to get smart on me dude. Last time I talked to you about Foreign Policy you were just like everyone on this forum. All national.

To be real, I'm happy you are learning.

You're such a fucking genius, what would we do withoutcha?
 
Food for thought....

http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2012.htm

1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid workers.

workers under age 25 made up about half of those paid the Federal minimum wage or less. Among employed teenagers paid by the hour, about 21 percent earned the minimum wage or less, compared with about 3 percent of workers age 25 and over.

About half of all workers paid at or below the federal minimum wage were employed in this industry, the vast majority in restaurants and other food services. For many of these workers, tips and commissions supplement the hourly wages received.

I prefer the source's version to your questionable extrapolations:

2012, 75.3 million workers in the United States age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.0 percent of all wage and salary workers. 1 Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum.2 Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid workers. Tables 1 through 10 present data on a wide array of demographic and socioeconomic characteristics for hourly paid workers earning at or below the federal minimum wage. The following are some highlights from the 2012 data.

Minimum wage workers tend to be young. Although workers under age 25 represented only about one-fifth of hourly paid workers, they made up about half of those paid the Federal minimum wage or less. Among employed teenagers paid by the hour, about 21 percent earned the minimum wage or less, compared with about 3 percent of workers age 25 and over. (See table 1 and table 7.)

In 2012, 6 percent of women paid hourly rates had wages at or below the prevailing federal minimum, compared with about 3 percent of men. (See table 1.)

About 5 percent of White, Black, and Hispanic or Latino hourly paid workers earned the federal minimum wage or less. Among Asian workers paid at hourly rates, about 3 percent earned the minimum wage or less. (See table 1.)

Among hourly paid workers age 16 and over, about 10 percent of those who had less than a high school diploma earned the federal minimum wage or less, compared with about 4 percent of those who had a high school diploma (with no college) and about 2 percent of college graduates. (See table 6.)

Never-married workers, who tend to be young, were more likely than married workers to earn the federal minimum wage or less (about 8 percent versus about 2 percent). (See table 8.)

About 11 percent of part-time workers (persons who usually work less than 35 hours per week) were paid the federal minimum wage or less, compared with about 2 percent of full-time workers. (See table 1 and table 9.)

By major occupational group, the highest proportion of hourly paid workers earning at or below the federal minimum wage was in service occupations, at about 12 percent. About three-fifths of workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2012 were employed in service occupations, mostly in food preparation and serving related jobs. (See table 4.)

The industry with the highest proportion of workers with hourly wages at or below the federal minimum wage was leisure and hospitality (about 19 percent). About half of all workers paid at or below the federal minimum wage were employed in this industry, the vast majority in restaurants and other food services. For many of these workers, tips and commissions supplement the hourly wages received. (See table 5.)

The states with the highest proportions of hourly paid workers earning at or below the federal minimum wage were Louisiana, Oklahoma, Texas, and Idaho (all between 7 and 8 percent). The states with the lowest percentages of hourly paid workers earning at or below the federal minimum wage were Alaska, Oregon, California, Montana, and Washington (all under 2 percent). It should be noted that some states have minimum wage laws establishing standards that exceed the federal minimum wage. (See table 2 and table 3.)

The proportion of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal minimum wage or less declined from 5.2 percent in 2011 to 4.7 percent in 2012. This remains well below the figure of 13.4 percent in 1979, when data were first collected on a regular basis. (See table 10.)


SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT, NOVA?
 
I prefer the source's version to your questionable extrapolations:

2012, 75.3 million workers in the United States age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.0 percent of all wage and salary workers. 1 Among those paid by the hour, 1.6 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.0 million had wages below the federal minimum.2 Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the federal minimum made up 4.7 percent of all hourly paid workers. Tables 1 through 10 present data on a wide array of demographic and socioeconomic characteristics for hourly paid workers earning at or below the federal minimum wage. The following are some highlights from the 2012 data.

Minimum wage workers tend to be young. Although workers under age 25 represented only about one-fifth of hourly paid workers, they made up about half of those paid the Federal minimum wage or less. Among employed teenagers paid by the hour, about 21 percent earned the minimum wage or less, compared with about 3 percent of workers age 25 and over. (See table 1 and table 7.)

In 2012, 6 percent of women paid hourly rates had wages at or below the prevailing federal minimum, compared with about 3 percent of men. (See table 1.)

About 5 percent of White, Black, and Hispanic or Latino hourly paid workers earned the federal minimum wage or less. Among Asian workers paid at hourly rates, about 3 percent earned the minimum wage or less. (See table 1.)

Among hourly paid workers age 16 and over, about 10 percent of those who had less than a high school diploma earned the federal minimum wage or less, compared with about 4 percent of those who had a high school diploma (with no college) and about 2 percent of college graduates. (See table 6.)

Never-married workers, who tend to be young, were more likely than married workers to earn the federal minimum wage or less (about 8 percent versus about 2 percent). (See table 8.)

About 11 percent of part-time workers (persons who usually work less than 35 hours per week) were paid the federal minimum wage or less, compared with about 2 percent of full-time workers. (See table 1 and table 9.)

By major occupational group, the highest proportion of hourly paid workers earning at or below the federal minimum wage was in service occupations, at about 12 percent. About three-fifths of workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2012 were employed in service occupations, mostly in food preparation and serving related jobs. (See table 4.)

The industry with the highest proportion of workers with hourly wages at or below the federal minimum wage was leisure and hospitality (about 19 percent). About half of all workers paid at or below the federal minimum wage were employed in this industry, the vast majority in restaurants and other food services. For many of these workers, tips and commissions supplement the hourly wages received. (See table 5.)

The states with the highest proportions of hourly paid workers earning at or below the federal minimum wage were Louisiana, Oklahoma, Texas, and Idaho (all between 7 and 8 percent). The states with the lowest percentages of hourly paid workers earning at or below the federal minimum wage were Alaska, Oregon, California, Montana, and Washington (all under 2 percent). It should be noted that some states have minimum wage laws establishing standards that exceed the federal minimum wage. (See table 2 and table 3.)

The proportion of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal minimum wage or less declined from 5.2 percent in 2011 to 4.7 percent in 2012. This remains well below the figure of 13.4 percent in 1979, when data were first collected on a regular basis. (See table 10.)


SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT, NOVA?

It is abundantly clear that you read, but do not comprehend what you are reading dunce. Perhaps if you read this a few more times it will find its way through that marijuana induced fog in your brain? That is, assuming that you even have one.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
You can check this against the previous list:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/spc/mult...tary-spending/


And I was right, it's all of them.

Not quite. New Zealand, Ireland, Belgium, Australia, Netherlands, Canada, the UK, Spain, Japan got zip in 2010. Maybe you should have read this on the military aid site:

Many Americans think our government spends far too much money on foreign aid because the totals seem eye-popping. As the chart points out, in 2010 we spent $14.5 billion in total military foreign aid, far from chump change. But to put this sum in perspective, it makes up much less than one-percent of total federal spending, and that percentage hasn't changed much over the years. Even compared to what we spend in our total defense budget, the amount is modest.

All currency figures presented in 2010 dollars for comparison purposes. Percentages are rounded to two decimal places.

Source: "U.S. Overseas Loans and Grants," compiled by USAID and available at data.gov.


Like it or not, a LOT of folk are putting more money into their citizens pockets than we are.....and we can well afford to do better.
 
It is abundantly clear that you read, but do not comprehend what you are reading dunce. Perhaps if you read this a few more times it will find its way through that marijuana induced fog in your brain? That is, assuming that you even have one.

I love it when neocon/teabagger buffoons like yourself actually think they're smarter than others, when it's painfully obvious how your myopic viewpoints won't allow you to comprehend ALL THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE in relation to each other.

Here stupid, for your education from the original link on this thread:

On a dollar basis, the U.S. minimum wage is slightly above average when adjusted for differences in purchasing power among countries. That puts the U.S minimum above the wage in Japan and Spain, plus less-developed nations such as Poland and Turkey. But even by that measure, it’s still below the minimum wage in Australia, the Netherlands, the U.K. and several other countries.

No matter how U.S. pay levels compare with those in other countries, the minimum wage is a combative issue here at home, with advocates for business arguing that raising the wage will threaten profits that are already thin, leading many firms to hire fewer workers. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office recently found that raising the minimum wage to $10.10, as one Senate bill would do, would lift 900,000 families out of poverty but also cost the economy 500,000 jobs. One pro-business TV commercial warns that raising the wage will compel more businesses to replace human workers with tablet devices and other technology.

But some economists feel the threat to the economy is overblown. “Arguments that lifting the minimum wage will cost low-income workers their jobs are significantly overstated,” writes Mark Zandi of Moody’s Analytics. “While raising the minimum wage has probably eliminated some jobs for very low-skilled workers, this loss has been marginal.”

Outside of Washington, there’s less controversy over the issue. About 20 states already have a minimum wage that’s above the national average. Retailers such as Costco (COST), Whole Foods (WFM) and the Gap (GPS) have said they’ll set wages above the federal minimum, because it reduces employee turnover. Polls show that three-quarters of Americans favor raising the minimum wage. Even 43% percent of small-business owners — who, in theory would have the most to lose if the minimum wage went up — support hiking it.

A big part of the problem with the U.S. minimum wage is that it’s not indexed to inflation — the way Social Security is — so instead of rising automatically as living costs go up, it requires an act of Congress every few years to raise it. That generates repeated political tussles such as the one brewing in Washington now. Ten U.S. states do index their minimum wage to inflation, as do several other countries.

The Senate bill, which Obama supports, would raise the minimum wage to $10.10 in stages over two years, then link increases to the rate of inflation, eliminating the need for future votes on the issue in Congress. Most Congressional Republicans oppose the bill, but it could still pass if a handful of Republicans join most Democrats in voting for it.

Last year Obama called for hiking the minimum wage to a mere $9 an hour, before he signed on to the more aggressive Senate bill and signed the order raising contractor pay. That suggests a possible compromise could emerge on a nationwide minimum wage — at some level lower than $10.10 — allowing Republicans to claim a modest victory.

Still, Congress is a place where national priorities go to die, so it’s also possible the United States could end up 27th out of 27 before long.
 
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