Obama seems to be most fiscal conservative out of Mcain, hillary, obama

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Chapdog

Abreast of the situations
Healthcare
He has realistic healthcare plan thats a step in right direction and that he can produce numbers for unlike hillary who cannot produce numbers to back her plan of grandeurs.

SSI
He has plan that solves ssi problem without increasing taxes on the middle class. Hillary would increase middle class taxes. his donut hole plan protects income between 100-200k. Mcain would try to scam us with private accounts

Tax policy
Yes is somewhat liberal but he is identifying that under 250k will not have the bush tax cut rolled back. McCain also voted against the bush tax cuts so so what is the difference.

Military
Hillary and McCain are war hawks that will continue to squander our treasure chest on useless conflicts and wars.


There is a reason that affluent over 100K Dem voters are voting for Obama versus Hillary who is getting the sludge vote under 50k.
 
lol

somewhat liberal, I believe he's the most liberal, on just about every list I've seen from Conservative to Liberal.

we are 9 trillion in debt, running a 400 billion dollar deficit, and you people are talking about strapping mandatory spending soon to eclipse 70% of the budget with the largest expansion of welfare since FDR? Man Tax and Spend liberals... Do you not realise Social Security is in a crisis? Do you not know of the all the looming entitlement crisis? How can we be talking about running faster into economic collapse, the pie is only so big folks. Jesus it may sound good and make your heart all warm and fuzzy but where is the money going to come from. Even in Obama's best dream, he doesn't have the numbers for this... These idea's are the fastest rout to sink the dollar and our whole economy.


What we need is spending restraint, a resurgence of the dollar, then some more tax cuts... Not more tax and spend social experiment liberalism.
 
water i think you got to look at the facts. Look at the choices. Lets first say that hillary is more of a tax and spend then obama and take her out of the equation.

Obama versus Mccain.

on SS obama solves the crisis by increasing the payroll on over 200k. the republican plan (and i was for a time for it) basically shifts the risk from the govt to the individual. they cut of a percent of what you contributed.. give it back to u in a personal account then cap what u can invest int.. its a wash when u do the numbers out.. but risk is on u instead of govt.

Mccain is a warhawk.. how is staying in iraq benefiting our economy? You cant be a fiscal conservative on all things.. but then for military be approving 40B here 100B there.. Thats like pinching your pennies every day of your life then going to the casino and saying fuck it every once in awhile.
 
The second fastest rout to destruction is handing military defeat to these terrorists. That will result in American blood being split on American soil, again.
 
Volker supports him.

His economic adviser is a Behavioral Economist from Chicago

His economics will be better than the rest.
 
McCain's team...

NATIONAL FINANCE COMMITTEE Co-CHAIRS
The Honorable George Argyros, California Mr. Michael Ashner, New York Mr. Brian Ballard, Florida Mr. Lawrence E. Bathgate II, New Jersey Mr. Wayne Berman, Washington, D.C. Mr. Donald L. Bren, California Mr. John Chambers, California Mr. Jim Click, Arizona The Honorable James A. Courter, New Jersey Mr. Donald R. Diamond, Arizona Mr. Ray Dalio, Connecticut Mr. Lewis M. Eisenberg, New Jersey Mr. Jon Hammes, Wisconsin Mr. James B. Lee, Jr., New York The Honorable Frederic V. Malek, Virginia Mr. John A. Moran, Florida Mr. Carter Pate, Virginia Mr. A. Jerrold Perenchio, California Mr. Fred Smith, Tennesse Mr. John A. Thain, New York The Honorable Ronald Weiser, Michigan

ECONOMIC POLICY ADVISORS Jack Kemp, Former Secretary of Housing and Urban
Grant Aldonas, Department of Commerce Carlos Bonilla, Sr VP Washington Group Michael Boskin, Former Council Of Economic Advisors Chairman Jeff Brown, Associate Professor of Finance, Univ of Illinois Juan Buttari, Independent Consultant and Researcher in Development Economics Kathleen Cooper, Dean, College of Business, Univ Of North Texas Steve Davis, CRA International And University Of Chicago Graduate School Of Business Richard Dekaser, Senior Vice President And Chief Economist, National City Corporation John Diamond, Edward A. and Hermena Hancock Kelly Fellow in Tax Policy, Baker Institute Of Public Policy, Rice University Martin Feldstein, Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, President Reagan's Chief Economic Adviser, member of President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board Emil Frankel, Transportation Consultant And Former Assistant Secretary For Transportation Policy, Department Of Transportation Luke Froeb, Professor, Vanderbilt University Senator Phil Gramm, Former U.S. Senator From Texas Kevin Hassett, Resident Scholar And Director Of Economic Policy Studies, American Enterprise Institute(AEI) David John, Senior Research Fellow, Heritage Foundation Tim Kane, Director, Center for International Trade and Economics, Heritage Foundation Melissa Kearney, Assistant Professor Of Economics, University Of Maryland Anne Krueger, Professor At The Johns Hopkins School Of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) & Former First Deputy Managing Director, IMF Adam Lerrick, Visiting Scholar For The American Enterprise Institute (AEI) And Friends Of Allan H. Meltzer Professor Of Economics For Carnegie Mellon Phil Levy, Resident Scholar for the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and Former Senior Economist for Trade on the President's Council of Economic Advisers Will Melick, Gensemer Associate Professor of Economics, Kenyon College Michael Moore, Professor Of Economics And International Affairs, George Washington University Tom Miller, Resident Fellow for American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Tim Muris, Foundation Professor, George Mason University School Of Law, Former Chairman of the Federal Trade Commission Sean O'Keefe, Former Secretary Of The Navy, NASA Administrator, & Deputy Director Of Office of Management & Budget, The White House Gerry Parsky, Senior Economic Advisor Nancy Pfotenhauer, Former President, Independent Women's Forum James Rill, Partner, Howrey LLP and Former Assistant Attorney General (Antitrust), U.S. Department of Justice Kenneth Rogoff, Professor Of Public Policy, Harvard University Harvey Rosen, Professor Of Economics And Business Policy, Princeton University John Silvia, Managing Director, Chief Economist, Wachovia Bank Aquiles Suarez, Vice President For Government Affairs For National Association Of Industrial And Office Properties & Former Special Assistant To The President For Domestic Policy Dr. John Taylor, Professor Of Economics At Stanford, Senior Fellow At The Hoover Institution & Former Under Secretary Of Treasury Anthony Villamil, Chief Executive Officer, The Washington Economics Group, Inc. & Former Under Secretary Of Commerce For Economic Affairs Joseph Wright, Chairman Of The Board For Intelsat Mark Zandi, Chief Economist For Moody's Economy.Com
BUSINESS LEADERS
 John Chambers, CEO of Cisco Carly Fiorina, Former CEO of Hewlett-Packard Steve Forbes James Huffines, Banking Executive David Pottruck, Chairman of Red Eagle Ventures Frederick W. Smith, CEO of FedEx Dax Swatek, President of Swatek and Associates John Thain, CEO of Merrill Lynch

more here

http://www.johnmccain.com/supporters/
 
i realize the history of McCain is to be a deficit hawk. the point im making is that hes great on most of what hes doing.. but you cant then just open the wallet wide for wars with little or no return and then be taken seriously as a fiscal conservative.

its like driving used cars, living within your means, brining a bagged lunch to work every day.. But then once a quarter you go to the casino and blow it all.
 
Also, as far as I understand Forbes is only supporting McCain and is not on his team, he was Rudis guy and when Rudi dropped he said he supported McCain.
 
Chapdog said:
i realize the history of McCain is to be a deficit hawk. the point im making is that hes great on most of what hes doing.. but you cant then just open the wallet wide for wars with little or no return and then be taken seriously as a fiscal conservative.

its like driving used cars, living within your means, brining a bagged lunch to work every day.. But then once a quarter you go to the casino and blow it all.
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I really doubt this country will be going to war anymore anytime soon... So come on with the fearmongering already... I'd rather have a man ready to defend the nation, than one who has practically pledged never to do so, anyway.
 
Obfuscate said:
Also, as far as I understand Forbes is only supporting McCain and is not on his team, he was Rudis guy and when Rudi dropped he said he supported McCain.
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Hey downplay that endorsement all you can, it's a biggie.
 
I love Steve Forbes, he is a Republican and has run for the Republican Nomination in the past, I doubt he'd support a Democrat. When he was Rudis actual adviser I thought it was the best quality Rudi had. He's still not Volker though but I really like them both.
 
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