Obama Video: Desires Redistributive Change and faults Constitution

KingCondanomation

KingCondanomation

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Obama: "One of the.. I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendancy to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change"

Obama also faults the Constitution for failing to dictate what government 'must do' for citizens...
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A clear Socialist who is not for the limited government that the founders envisioned.
 
OMG! OBAMA THINKS THE GOVERNMENT HAS RESPONSIBILITIES TO ITS CITIZENS!

Your little quote there leaves out a lot of important context, so thanks for actually posting the sound clip so we can see how much of a schmuck you are.
 
ib1yysguy said:
OMG! OBAMA THINKS THE GOVERNMENT HAS RESPONSIBILITIES TO ITS CITIZENS!

Your little quote there leaves out a lot of important context, so thanks for actually posting the sound clip so we can see how much of a schmuck you are.
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If I really wanted to leave out context I would have just said:
"you bring about redistributive change" - Obama
The context is there and no it doesn't save him.

I realize Obama thinks the Constitution should have dictated what he thought government must do, which you call responsibilities. Here's the problem for you and Obama, the founders believed in individual responsibility, they didn't make any mistakes and were very careful about why they did not say what government must do in certain areas, especially the federal government.
And if there's any doubt on the flexibility of that, Obama can familiarize himself with the 10th amendment.
 
More states rights crap?

The federal government does indeed have responsibilities that are commonly recognized today, though they're not explicitly listed in the constitution. The founding fathers didn't understand how big a roll the federal government would play (and necessarily) in the modern world we live in.

There's no problem for me and Obama, by the way. You've got the problem since he's going to be your president for the next 8 years.
 
KingCondanomation said:
If I really wanted to leave out context I would have just said:
"you bring about redistributive change" - Obama
The context is there and no it doesn't save him.

I realize Obama thinks the Constitution should have dictated what he thought government must do, which you call responsibilities. Here's the problem for you and Obama, the founders believed in individual responsibility, they didn't make any mistakes and were very careful about why they did not say what government must do in certain areas, especially the federal government.
And if there's any doubt on the flexibility of that, Obama can familiarize himself with the 10th amendment.
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He said the constitution DIDN'T provide responsibilities for the government. He didn't fault or praise it for not doing so.

I do. It was an extremely short-sited decision.
 
Let's be honest though. Even if Obama were the biggest socialist in the book there would be no way he could get anything done with even a largely Democratic legislature.

But the only thing that's going to keep this from doing significant damage to his campaign is that it's way to complex for the average independent voter to swallow in a few soundbites, and they are likely to pay just as much attention to his refutations anyway. Obama has a LOT of territory that he can afford to give up, but the race just got tighter.
 
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