Only 1% of Americans serving in military is ‘problematic’, Democrat Pat Ryan says

[Guno צְבִי]

New York representative, with Florida Republican and fellow veteran Mike Waltz, spoke of getting US ‘back to national service’

To Waltz, “service doesn’t just have to be in the military,” as he said that both he and Ryan are advocates of “getting us back to national service as a country”.

“That’s not a draft, that doesn’t necessarily have to be in uniform,” he said, adding: “It could be with the national park, inner-city tutoring, elderly care. But how do we get young people out in an environment where they’re learning leadership, discipline, followership, serving a cause bigger than themselves and with fellow Americans who may not look or come from the same backgrounds as them.”

The two representatives also spoke of the need for bipartisanship when it comes to supporting veterans. For Ryan, the “most powerful thing” he has done in his time in Congress since he assumed office in 2023 was cleaning the Vietnam Veterans Memorial alongside other veterans.

In 1980, approximately 18% of US adults were veterans. In 2022, that number dropped to 6%. The center cites the falling trend to a decrease in active-duty personnel following the end of the military draft in 1973.

The center also reports that as the amount of veterans declines over the next 25 years, women, Hispanic and Black adults, and adults below the age of 50 will make up larger shares of the total US veteran population.

Only 1% of Americans serving in military is ‘problematic’, Democrat Pat Ryan says

New York representative, with Florida Republican and fellow veteran Mike Waltz, spoke of getting US ‘back to national service’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Hawkeye10]

My nation has betrayed me, fuck that.

Replace the leadership, reimpose the Constitution, only after that we might talk about it.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The social contract has been broken by the elites, who now push to enslave me.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

My nation has betrayed me, fuck that.

Replace the leadership, reimpose the Constitution, only after that we might talk about it.

Coming from a drunken bum who never served, but let your wife serve while you followed her around while supporting you. A poor excuse for a man

 

[Walt]

The social contract has been broken by the elites, who now push to enslave me.

How have you been enslaved?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

For most of US history, other than short periods of war, the US military was always miniscule in size. Just prior to WW 2, the US Army ranked 36th worldwide in terms of size. It was only with WW 2 and the following Cold War that the US military grew to enormous proportion.

On the other hand, as the framers intended, the US Navy has become a serious force for defense of the US and for power projection. That growth started with the Spanish-American War and has been ongoing ever since. It is only recently that the Navy has been shrinking in number of ships and manpower.

The problem is that the federal government is reaching a tipping point, as Europe did long ago, where social-welfare programs have begun to gobble up all the money and continued expansion is driving the nation deeper into debt. The only place funding can be easily cut is in defense programs so that's what is happening.

 

[martin]

Coming from a drunken bum who never served, but let your wife serve while you followed her around while supporting you. A poor excuse for a man

Spends his time on the Internet bemoaning his comfortable American life.

 

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

New York representative, with Florida Republican and fellow veteran Mike Waltz, spoke of getting US ‘back to national service’

To Waltz, “service doesn’t just have to be in the military,” as he said that both he and Ryan are advocates of “getting us back to national service as a country”.

“That’s not a draft, that doesn’t necessarily have to be in uniform,” he said, adding: “It could be with the national park, inner-city tutoring, elderly care. But how do we get young people out in an environment where they’re learning leadership, discipline, followership, serving a cause bigger than themselves and with fellow Americans who may not look or come from the same backgrounds as them.”

The two representatives also spoke of the need for bipartisanship when it comes to supporting veterans. For Ryan, the “most powerful thing” he has done in his time in Congress since he assumed office in 2023 was cleaning the Vietnam Veterans Memorial alongside other veterans.

In 1980, approximately 18% of US adults were veterans. In 2022, that number dropped to 6%. The center cites the falling trend to a decrease in active-duty personnel following the end of the military draft in 1973.

The center also reports that as the amount of veterans declines over the next 25 years, women, Hispanic and Black adults, and adults below the age of 50 will make up larger shares of the total US veteran population.

Only 1% of Americans serving in military is ‘problematic’, Democrat Pat Ryan says

New York representative, with Florida Republican and fellow veteran Mike Waltz, spoke of getting US ‘back to national service’

www.theguardian.com

oh.

do more Americans need to go die for dumb Jew reasons?

 

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

New York representative, with Florida Republican and fellow veteran Mike Waltz, spoke of getting US ‘back to national service’

To Waltz, “service doesn’t just have to be in the military,” as he said that both he and Ryan are advocates of “getting us back to national service as a country”.

“That’s not a draft, that doesn’t necessarily have to be in uniform,” he said, adding: “It could be with the national park, inner-city tutoring, elderly care. But how do we get young people out in an environment where they’re learning leadership, discipline, followership, serving a cause bigger than themselves and with fellow Americans who may not look or come from the same backgrounds as them.”

The two representatives also spoke of the need for bipartisanship when it comes to supporting veterans. For Ryan, the “most powerful thing” he has done in his time in Congress since he assumed office in 2023 was cleaning the Vietnam Veterans Memorial alongside other veterans.

In 1980, approximately 18% of US adults were veterans. In 2022, that number dropped to 6%. The center cites the falling trend to a decrease in active-duty personnel following the end of the military draft in 1973.

The center also reports that as the amount of veterans declines over the next 25 years, women, Hispanic and Black adults, and adults below the age of 50 will make up larger shares of the total US veteran population.

Only 1% of Americans serving in military is ‘problematic’, Democrat Pat Ryan says

New York representative, with Florida Republican and fellow veteran Mike Waltz, spoke of getting US ‘back to national service’

www.theguardian.com

so you would like to see the military take over the lives of all youths, and give them goals and a purpose?

feed all the youth to the war machine eh?

that's fucked up.

 

[Walt]

On the other hand, as the framers intended, the US Navy has become a serious force for defense of the US and for power projection.

At the end of the Revolutionary War, Congress sold all the ships of the US Navy, and effectively dissolved the Navy by 1785. The Navy was not reestablished until 1794, with the Naval Act of 1794. It was not until 1797 that the US Navy got any ships.

So somehow the Framers in 1787 wanted the US Navy to be a strong force to project power, and yet did not even buy a ship for a decade afterward? To put this into perspective, President Washington had no ships in the US Navy.

United States Navy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[T. A. Gardner]

At the end of the Revolutionary War, Congress sold all the ships of the US Navy, and effectively dissolved the Navy by 1785. The Navy was not reestablished until 1794, with the Naval Act of 1794. It was not until 1797 that the US Navy got any ships.

So somehow the Framers in 1787 wanted the US Navy to be a strong force to project power, and yet did not even buy a ship for a decade afterward? To put this into perspective, President Washington had no ships in the US Navy.

United States Navy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But if you look in the constitution, the army is limited to a two-year budget, period, while the navy isn't. The navy can be budgeted for ten years (or more) if that's what Congress wants.

During Jefferson's terms in office, the Navy was largely limited to a series of small gunboats to be manned mostly or entirely by the militia in time of war. It was a complete disaster as a military strategy and plan.

As for what you stated, the US was essentially broke after winning the Revolution. No money, no ships. Ships are expensive. The army was all but disbanded too, same reason.

 

[gfm7175]

I ain't fighting in any stupid Uniparty war.

 

[Walt]

But if you look in the constitution, the army is limited to a two-year budget, period, while the navy isn't.

Ships could be away from the USA easily for more than two years, and there would be no way to communicate with them.

The army was all but disbanded too, same reason.

The US Army was reduced, but was nowhere near disbanded. It fought an entire war during the period. The Northwest Indian War involved a standing US Army of thousands of soldiers from 1786 to 1795.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Ships could be away from the USA easily for more than two years, and there would be no way to communicate with them.

The US Army was reduced, but was nowhere near disbanded. It fought an entire war during the period. The Northwest Indian War involved a standing US Army of thousands of soldiers from 1786 to 1795.

2 regiments of dragoons, 15 of infantry, and 6 batteries of artillery for the whole nation. It was an insignificant force compared to virtually any country in Europe.