Putin accuses U.S. of orchestrating Georgian war

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What are the chances that this is true? Did Bush help orchestrate this crisis to benefit McCain the war hero?

Putin says U.S. did it to help one of the presidential election candidates

From CNN's Matthew Chance

SOCHI, Russia (CNN) -- Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has accused the United States of orchestrating the conflict in Georgia to benefit one of its presidential election candidates.


Russian PM Vladimir Putin has accused the U.S. of orchestrating the conflict in Georgia.

In an exclusive interview with CNN's Matthew Chance in the Black Sea city of Sochi Thursday, Putin said the U.S. had encouraged Georgia to attack the autonomous region of South Ossetia.

Putin told CNN his defense officials had told him it was done to benefit a presidential candidate -- Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama are competing to succeed George W. Bush -- although he presented no evidence to back it up.

"U.S. citizens were indeed in the area in conflict," Putin said. "They were acting in implementing those orders doing as they were ordered, and the only one who can give such orders is their leader." Watch Putin accuse the United States »

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino blasted Putin's statements, saying they were "patently false."

"To suggest that the United States orchestrated this on behalf of a political candidate just sounds not rational," she said.

U.S. State Department deputy spokesman Robert Wood concurred, and labeled Putin's statements as "ludicrous."

"Russia is responsible for the crisis," Wood said in an off-camera meeting with reporters in Washington on Thursday. "For the Russians to say they are not responsible for what happened in Georgia is ludicrous. ... Russia is to blame for this crisis and the world is responding to what Russia has done."

When told that many diplomats in the United States and Europe blame Russia for provoking the conflict and for invading Georgia, Putin said Russia had no choice but to invade Georgia after dozens of its peacekeepers in South Ossetia were killed. He told Chance it was to avert a human calamity. iReport.com: First-person accounts from the center of the conflict

The former Russian president, still considered the most powerful man in the country, said he was disappointed the U.S. had not done more to stop Georgia's attack.

Putin recalled he was watching the situation in Georgia and South Ossetia unfold when he was at the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympic Games on August 8.

He said he spoke to U.S. President George W. Bush, also attending, who told the Russian prime minister he didn't want war -- but Putin spoke to CNN of his disappointment that the U.S. administration didn't do more to stop Georgia early in the conflict.

Also Thursday Putin announced economic measures which he said were unrelated to the fighting with Georgia. Nineteen U.S. poultry meat companies would be banned from exporting their products to Russia because they had failed health and safety tests, and 29 other companies had been warned to improve their standards or face the same ban, Putin said.

Putin said Russia's health and agricultural ministries had randomly tested the poultry products and found them to be full of antibiotics and arsenic.

While Putin repeated that the bans were not related to the Georgian conflict, they indicate the measures some Western countries -- particularly in Europe -- fear if Russia goes on a diplomatic offensive. Watch analysis of Russia's relationship with the West. »

But Russia's hopes of winning international support for its actions in Georgia were dashed Thursday, when China and other Asian nations expressed concern about tension in the region.

The joint declaration from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which includes China, Russia, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan, said the countries hoped any further conflict could be resolved peacefully.

"The presidents reaffirmed their commitment to the principles of respect for historic and cultural traditions of every country and efforts aimed at preserving the unity of a state and its territorial integrity," the declaration said, The Associated Press reported.

"Placing the emphasis exclusively on the use of force has no prospects and hinders a comprehensive settlement of local conflicts," AP reported the group as saying.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev had appealed to the SCO at a summit in Tajikistan Thursday to support its actions, saying it would serve as a "serious signal for those who are trying to justify the aggression."


On Wednesday a U.S. ship carrying aid docked in Georgia, while Britain's Foreign Secretary David Miliband traveled to the Ukraine, which is worried about Russia's intentions in the region, to offer the UK's support.

Miliband equated Moscow's offensive in Georgia with the Soviet tanks that invaded Czechoslovakia to crush the Prague Spring democratic reforms in 1968, and demanded Russia "change course," AP reported.


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The reasons for the catastrophic decision by the Georgian president Saakashvili to order an all-out military bombardment of Tskhinvali in South Ossettia and provoke this conflict were entirely their own. Bush's administration is venal and utterly untrustworthy, but I'm afraid there is no evidence that they were behind this reckless decision of the Georgians. That does not mean that they are not trying to exploit it now, but I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with Putin on this one.
 
The reasons for the catastrophic decision by the Georgian president Saakashvili to order an all-out military bombardment of Tskhinvali in South Ossettia and provoke this conflict were entirely their own. Bush's administration is venal and utterly untrustworthy, but I'm afraid there is no evidence that they were behind this reckless decision of the Georgians. That does not mean that they are not trying to exploit it now, but I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with Putin on this one.

American liberals are pretty much hell bent on the notion that George W Bush is responsible for all the ills of the world. Which is of course blatantly untrue. He is responsible only for many of them.
 
Bush planned the Georgian War even before he planned to bring down the WTC...
You betcha!
 
I have a hard time believing any leader out there would listen to Bush.

We don't.
 
there's more to be being a good person than being anti-bush. You should also strive to be an anti-fascist. You fail in this regard.

LMAO! I wish I had words to express how much it pains me to have you think I am a fascist. I promise to set aside at least 30 minutes next month to cry about how you feel. lol
 
LMAO! I wish I had words to express how much it pains me to have you think I am a fascist. I promise to set aside at least 30 minutes next month to cry about how you feel. lol

You laugh at a lot. YOu think it's laughable to define a good economy by the number of people able to reduce their debt and with an increase in money coming in over money going out. The fact that you think that is a laughable definition illustrates your fascism and general contempt for people.
 
You laugh at a lot. YOu think it's laughable to define a good economy by the number of people able to reduce their debt and with an increase in money coming in over money going out. The fact that you think that is a laughable definition illustrates your fascism and general contempt for people.

No, it shows my contempt for you. Thats who I am laughing at.
 
But I'm referring to you laughing at the concept of people doing well as a measure of economic well being. Why is that a laughable definition?

With all the studies and reports about so many people abusing credit cards, taking out loans to consolidate other loans, and generally living well beyond their means, I don't think its an accurate picture at all.

I also think that people can be convinced that a recession is coming, thereby limiting their spending for fear of being caught short.



I do not think it is a good measure at all.
 
With all the studies and reports about so many people abusing credit cards, taking out loans to consolidate other loans, and generally living well beyond their means, I don't think its an accurate picture at all.

I also think that people can be convinced that a recession is coming, thereby limiting their spending for fear of being caught short.



I do not think it is a good measure at all.

What's not a good measure? GDP? Yeah. It's a poor measure. That's what I was saying. Thanks for agreeing.

What would be a better measure is how many people are getting out of debt and having their income raise relative to their expenses. That is a far better measure of economic health.
 
American liberals are pretty much hell bent on the notion that George W Bush is responsible for all the ills of the world. Which is of course blatantly untrue. He is responsible only for many of them.

One question for you that no one has answered and few people have even asked .. why would the president of Georgia START a conflict with Russia that he knew he would lose quickly and many innocent people, including many of hius own citizens and soldiers would be killed?

I wouldn't expect that everyone would know the answer, but intelligent people should at least be asking the question.
 
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