Social Media Gave Americans Freedom Of Speech

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Until the Internet came along free speech was an inactive Right. That is to say few people mounted a soapbox to talk to strangers.


Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one. A. J. Liebling


The only people who exercised free speech before the Internet were the people who owned the printing presses. That is why freedom of speech and freedom of the press are often misinterpreted. Getting average Americans to defend freedom of the press is one of the most successful con jobs the government ever pulled off. In the real world, a free press protects the government’s free speech while zealously warding off everyone else’s free speech.

When radio and TV came along those who owned the transmitters controlled speech in those mediums; i.e., the government controlled electronic free speech with licenses issued by the government, and the Fairness Doctrine (1949) when TV was young.

NOTE: Television networks, including subscription TV, oppose free speech on the Internet as much as the government opposes it. Those people make their money by controlling the dialogue. In their minds the Internet is an upstart competitor.

Free speech for individuals came with the Internet. Freedom of speech is the gate Socialists will slam shut at the first opportunity.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?108535-Political-Gatekeepers&p=2768160#post2768160


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Social media is a lot more than tech giants:

A new survey by the Wall Street Journal and NBC News shows 57 percent of Americans believe “social media does more to divide us.”

And 82 percent say “social media does more to waste our time.”


Poll: By 2-1 Americans say social media 'divides us'
Posted By -NO AUTHOR- On 04/05/2019 @ 9:52 am

https://www.wnd.com/2019/04/poll-by-2-1-americans-say-social-media-divides-us/

Analyze that poll’s results and you will conclude that Democrats love print press and television, while they hate the freedom of speech aspect of social media.

NOTE: In my long experience I learned that message board liberals always defend the press, while conservatives always do the opposite.

As I said many times, the government had nothing to fear so long as freedom of speech was limited to soapbox orators and barroom pundits that few people listened to. The government’s paralyzing fear is that average Americans can rebut media turd-maggots on the Internet.

For many Americans, a message board is the legitimate heir to pamphlets of olde. Freedom of speech on the Internet informed the American people about the Democrat Party’s tyrannical agenda and about top Democrats. That situation is more than Democrats can live with. Hence:


Obama czar proposed government ‘infiltrate’ social network sites
Sunstein wants agents to 'undermine' talk in chat rooms, message boards
Published: 01/12/2012 at 10:56 PM
by Aaron Klein

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/obama-czar-proposed-government-infiltrate-social-network-sites/

First print press then television can be blamed for everything that went wrong in this country. Television should be applauded for killing print. Television’s talking heads should also be punished for what they did the country after 1960.

Print press is blameworthy for everything that went wrong in this country. Without a free press this country would not have open-borders, twenty to thirty million illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, socialized medicine, a Communist-controlled education industry, government unions, non-existent international law, the United Nations, world leaders, and a long list of lesser media evils that are SOP.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...Of-Freedom-Of-The-Press&p=2931557#post2931557

Incidentally, a few years before Bill O’Reilly lost his microphone he went crazy attacking the Internet. O’Reilly was protecting television and his income. To this day Bullshit Bill does not understood why television does more harm to this country in one week than the Internet can do in a century.

Overpaid journalists believe that free speech means talking without being paid. Tax dollars funding journalism’s speech with tax deductible advertising dollars should never be allowed.

Professional journalists would have the rest of us believe that their opinions are better than ours; their insights more enlightening than ours, and their monopoly on public debate more necessary than our freedoms.

Welfare state advocates believe that everything should be free except speech.

The government always attacks freedom of speech —— never freedom of the press. Totalitarians have good reason to silence free speech. Their ideologies cannot stand the light of day.

NOTE:
Television moguls will never hand their microphones to serious rebuttals anymore than newspapers published a letter to the editor that threatened a newspaper’s first loyalty whatever it happened to be. The United Nations, not this country, is television’s first loyalty.

Press barons guard their microphones in order to prevent serious rebuttals being heard by millions more than a letter to the editor was ever published when threatened a newspaper’s political agenda. And have you noticed that letters to the editor morphed into TV news shows asking viewers send in their comments by email on any given topic. Some shows even offer a reward if the comments are read on air. That is an inside joke because there is zero chance a news show will air anything that hits too close to home. The number of idiots who respond provide a gauge on the size of the show’s audience. Responding to poll questions is another measurement gimmick TV news rely on.

QUESTION: Did you ever hear U.S. membership in the U.N. challenged? ANSWER: I never did. In addition to the blackout, it is illogical to believe that news shows did not receive millions of emails criticizing U.N. membership, yet not one was ever read on-air.

Shoving politically correct speech down the public’s throat was the Democrat Party’s most successful attack on freedom of speech. To Democrats “politically correct speech” is doublespeak for politically INCORRECT speech. Hate speech soon followed. Politically correct speech was a masterpiece of doublespeak in that politically INCORRECT speech will get you killed if Democrats have their way.

As to tech giants: It is not their job to defend attacks on the First Amendment. Google et al. cleverly justify the attack by censoring hate speech on the assumption that every American opposes hate speech because they are too stupid to know they are losing freedom of speech. The truth is that most Americans realize that prohibit freedom of speech in any venue and it will not be long before it is prohibited everywhere.

Incidentally, Tech giants prove that press censorship is only practiced by those who own the machinery. Tech giants own the platforms, but executives do not decide to institute censorship on their own. They get their marching orders from the government. Nevertheless, freedom of speech’s continued growth on the Internet is a frightening prospect to the federal government; hence, they are reacting like cornered rats.

Finally, President trump was wrong when he said faux news is the enemy of the people:

Television journalists are nothing more than well-paid assassins. The federal government is the enemy of the people. Proof: Had television never been invented print press alone could never newspeak the American people into surrendering their country to international bankers.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ies-And-Good-Media-Lies&p=2837383#post2837383
 
The wife of ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos declared that if Donald Trump wins, the couple is moving to Australia.



Mrs. George Stephanopoulos: We Will Move to Australia If Trump Wins
By Scott Whitlock
November 5, 2016 9:30 AM EDT

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...nopoulos-we-will-move-australia-if-trump-wins

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I do not know if she left, but Georgie the Greek is still here:


Everyone’s favorite self appointed world speech policeman, Mark Zuckerberg, recently took part in a long form sit down interview with leftist hack “journalist” George Stephanopoulos on ABC, where they talked about user’s privacy on Facebook, putting “strong data controls in place” for policing speech.

Zuckerberg also complained that there’s too much free speech, especially “divisive” political speech, even suggesting that the FCC should regulate speech online.

Facebook has been shutting down traffic to conservative websites since the 2016 election.


Mark Zuckerberg Complains About FCC’s Lack Of Free Speech Regulations — Wants More Silencing of Voices, But Especially Conservative Voices
by Brock Simmons April 6, 2019

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ing-of-voices-but-mostly-conservative-voices/

Does Zuckerberg know that:


. . . most Americans realize that prohibit freedom of speech in any venue and it will not be long before it is prohibited everywhere.

Incidentally, Tech giants prove that press censorship is only practiced by those who own the machinery. Tech giants own the platforms, but executives do not decide to institute censorship on their own. They get their marching orders from the government. Nevertheless, freedom of speech’s continued growth on the Internet is a frightening prospect to the federal government; hence, they are reacting like cornered rats.
 
the internets destroyed the ability of the republican party to lie non stop and get away with it
 
Social Media has given the most extreme sides of both parties a platform from which to spew hatred and division.

Our country has never been so divided. Both sides work on half-truths and fake stories. Even when the stories are proven false, those who spread them continue to spread hate.
 
UPDATE

Years ago I often watched George Will on This Week. I stopped surfing into ABC altogether after Christiane Amanpour’s first show. A wise decision on my part:



Sad to say she was in rare form the last time I stumbled across her name. At the time I said Amanpour’s “not neutral” was doublespeak for lying:

CNN’s Amanpour: Being ‘truthful, not neutral’ means pushing back on climate skeptics
Tré Goins-Phillips
November 29, 2016 5:59 pm

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/...eutral-means-pushing-back-on-climate-skeptics
 
. . . Georgie the Greek is still here:

Why in hell did Trump talk to Greek George? Sucking up to ABC is the only answer I can come up with:

Democrats and their cohorts in the mainstream media are upset over an interview President Donald Trump did with George Stephanopoulos. The reason? Because Trump said he wouldn't necessarily call the FBI if a country came to his campaign saying they had opposition research on his candidate. He also brought up the fact that oppo research is a common thing in politics and that every politician utilizes it to win elections.


Dem Outrage Mob Is Out In Full Force Over Trump's Interview With Stephanopoulos
Beth Baumann
Posted: Jun 12, 2019 9:35 PM

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...trumps-interview-with-stephanopoulos-n2548139

The Greek might just as well have asked Trump: Did you stop beating your wife?

Trump cannot win whether or not he calls the FBI because the question itself can be twisted into a talking point for Democrats in 2020.

Media mouths asking trusting Republicans ‘gotcha’ questions can be found on page one in the Democrat Party’s play book.
 
If free speech was an inactive right, it's not an active right just for the left. The left is too intolerant to allow others free speech.
 
And why in hell did Trump allow the Greek to stand over him like he, Stephanopoulos, was Torquemada questioning a heretic?

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Laura elaborated on Wednesday's comments. I especially enjoyed Suzy Five Shows coming out from under her rock and jumping on the anti-America bandwagon:


 
Horse shit to the OP. Americans have been blabbing and moaning and groaning and politifying for 250 years.

The right wing would shut down free speech if possible.
 
Why in hell did Trump talk to Greek George? Sucking up to ABC is the only answer I can come up with:

Democrats and their cohorts in the mainstream media are upset over an interview President Donald Trump did with George Stephanopoulos. The reason? Because Trump said he wouldn't necessarily call the FBI if a country came to his campaign saying they had opposition research on his candidate. He also brought up the fact that oppo research is a common thing in politics and that every politician utilizes it to win elections.


Dem Outrage Mob Is Out In Full Force Over Trump's Interview With Stephanopoulos
Beth Baumann
Posted: Jun 12, 2019 9:35 PM

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...trumps-interview-with-stephanopoulos-n2548139

The Greek might just as well have asked Trump: Did you stop beating your wife?

Trump cannot win whether or not he calls the FBI because the question itself can be twisted into a talking point for Democrats in 2020.

Media mouths asking trusting Republicans ‘gotcha’ questions can be found on page one in the Democrat Party’s play book.

Trump knew what he was doing

The democrat party is walking into it again. They are the ones being set up by Trump.

Just sit back and watch. I will be proven right once again
 
Social Media has given the most extreme sides of both parties a platform from which to spew hatred and division.

Our country has never been so divided. Both sides work on half-truths and fake stories. Even when the stories are proven false, those who spread them continue to spread hate.
Don’t take Ned too seriously WB. Nothing has changed but the media. There has always been yellow journalist, propagandist and extremists spewing hate and division. Modern social media has just made it easier to access. There will always be a market for that with the ignorant and uninformed.

Freedom of speech does not absolve one from taking individual responsibility to be truly informed and acting responsibly.
 
This article is half-right. Common Core is guilty:

How Common Core And Screen Overdoses Are Ruining American Kids’ Intelligence
By Auguste Meyrat
August 20, 2019

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/2...overdoses-ruining-american-kids-intelligence/

Social media benefits society:

Incidentally, a few years before Bill O’Reilly lost his microphone he went crazy attacking the Internet. O’Reilly was protecting television and his income. To this day Bullshit Bill does not understood why television does more harm to this country in one week than the Internet can do in a century.

Bottom line: Social media should be compared to television —— not to Common Core.

See this thread:


https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ds-Help-From-Bill-Gates&p=2975971#post2975971
 
FREE SPEECH UPDATE

Shoving politically correct speech down the public’s throat was the Democrat Party’s most successful attack on freedom of speech. To Democrats “politically correct speech” is doublespeak for politically INCORRECT speech. Hate speech soon followed. Politically correct speech was a masterpiece of doublespeak in that politically INCORRECT speech will get you killed if Democrats have their way.

As to tech giants: It is not their job to defend attacks on the First Amendment. Google et al. cleverly justify the attack by censoring hate speech on the assumption that every American opposes hate speech because they are too stupid to know they are losing freedom of speech. The truth is that most Americans realize that prohibit freedom of speech in any venue and it will not be long before it is prohibited everywhere.

Legally prohibiting speech found its way into everything the Democrat Party stands for. Nuto Nancy and her three committee chairmen —— Nadler, Schiff, and Engel —— are taking freedom of speech away from members of Congress as well taking it away from the American people.




Not only does Nutso claim she is defending the Constitution when she bars freedom of speech in Congress, she warned her three blind mice that she would cut off their balls if they allow anybody to hear anything said by their own witnesses.

Diarrhea Mouth knows nothing about the Constitution. She knows less about the First Amendment. I suggest she start learning with a brief history of freedom of speech:


As a concept, freedom of speech arguably dates back to Socrates. He said to his prosecutors, "If you offered to let me off this time on condition I am not any longer to speak my mind... I should say to you, 'Men of Athens, I shall obey the Gods rather than you.'" While Plato was busy writing dialogues and showing us that Socrates was advocating for free speech more than 2000 years ago, freedom of speech as a legal right did not actually exist until the 17th century.

The people of both the United States and Britain were ensured certain rights. Both countries grant freedom of speech, although in modern society, speech considered "harmful, hurtful, or hateful" has been deemed, "hate speech" in much of Europe and in Britain.

This new worldview on dangerous words has made its way to the United States. "Progressive" activists such as Antifa and the 3rd wave feminist movement, would see freedom of speech hampered to end speech they find offensive.

Online "hate speech" is currently an arrestable and jailable offense in the United Kingdom. There is an entire branch of law enforcement devoted to policing words on the internet. Many have received jail time over tweets and Facebook posts others did not agree with. How did this happen? Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 made this policing of words and subsequent punishment possible.

An article published by the Independent claims "According to the Register, a total of 2,500 Londoners have been arrested over the past five years for allegedly sending “offensive” messages via social media. In 2015, 857 people were detained, up 37 per cent increase since 2010."

In the U.S., many are trying to push for "hate speech" laws, although the courts have ruled such laws unconstitutional thus far. The First Amendment protects the right to free speech, no matter how much some may not like what is being said.

While private business can make rules for conduct as they see fit, individual states and factions of the federal government cannot in the United States; the laws about speech are expressly written in the Constitution.

In the United Kingdom free speech was not expressly granted under the Magna Carta, it was granted 400 years later under the British Bill of Rights; however today it is all but stripped completely. The British Bill of Rights (An Act Declaring the Rights and Liberties of the Subject and Settling the Succession of the Crown) was written in 1689 and granted freedom of speech in Parliament. This was the first instance in history that any form of freedom of speech was codified into law. The British Bill of Rights granted sweeping freedoms to British citizens, and became a document looked to for inspiration in other countries. Both the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and the United States Constitution used the ideas from the British Bill of Rights when creating their versions.

Today in the United Kingdom the Online Hate Crimes Hub Polices "offensive materials" on social media. It is highly likely that you could wind up in a jail cell for insulting someone on Facebook.

Now the question becomes, what exactly is hate speech? Hate speech laws in England and Wales are found in several statutes. There needs to be an expression of hatred towards someone based upon the following: color, race, disability, nationality (which includes citizenship), ethnicity or national origin, religion, sexual preferences and sexual orientation, gender identity. All of these examples are forbidden. Next, we arrive at “Any communication which threatening or abusive, and is intended to harass, alarm or distress someone is forbidden” – Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994

Rather vague language which can be blurred easily to fit any situation. Now when you add in the Communications Act of 2003, which defines illegal communications as “Using public electronic communications network in order to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety.” Breaking this law carries a fine of up to £5,000 or a six-month prison term. If you call someone a “slut” on Twitter this could land you in prison. If you like a political personality this week, better watch your language online, and that joke you posted to Facebook could also carry a sentence, if anyone feels annoyed or anxious over it.

Many social media platforms are currently demonetizing thinkers they do not agree with (YouTube does this regularly); and in some cases, out and out banning them from utilizing the platform at all, which silences their voices. Steven Crowder was has publicly shown us a “black list” of channels that are hidden via YouTube. Other recent examples of this are Facebook and the subsequent Instagram banning of Paul Joseph Watson. Watson is an outspoken man and free speech enthusiast. His articles, videos, and views on current events tend to send some into a “triggered” state of utter turmoil; believe it or not, that is good thing! Echo chambers do not allow for critical thinking, and equal discussion of the topics at hand. If both sides cannot speak freely, that is oppression of ideas. Facebook had gone as far to label Watson as a “dangerous individual” for not towing the leftist line as they expect from their political users. In an ironic twist of events, after Mark Zuckerberg was found to be holding meetings with conservatives such as Tucker Carlson the opposition on the left is now hollering about “#DeleteFacebook” as the trending item of the last 24 hours. It took meeting with people the left did not agree with, to cause upset with Facebook and its practices.

The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that hate speech is legally protected free speech under the First Amendment. Trying to ban speech that is offensive, or may cause another to become upset, is a slippery slope which causes more risk than the “overall good” intended. There are very clear laws in place that hate crimes are illegal and punishable. These crimes involve bodily injury to another person based on race, creed, religion, sex/gender, etc. Hate crimes also include vandalizing property. Governance over words is an inherently dangerous activity to a healthy, and ultimately free society. Take away the right to voice an opinion, no matter how vile it may be, and you are ever closer to totalitarian rule. However, that seed has been planted by very vocal left-leaning groups who do not want hate speech protected. When a group vocalizes repeatedly about how hate speech is a danger to society, that poison pill has been placed. Many who are not very politically active hear the side that makes the most “chatter” and tend to agree with the popular opinion instead of researching the situation on their own. Many citizens of the United States have no idea that other countries are struggling with free speech, and that we are the last bastion of hope for expression. Clueless that positions in other governments include titles such as “Chief Censor.” If they knew, more outrage over trying to silence hate speech would be front and center.

Once you cannot speak out without repercussions, all other rights are taken soon after. This is how dictators take over countries and oppress the citizens. This model has been seen time and time again. It is absolutely imperative that at least one country on this planet still has freedom of expression. This is how the others will rebuild their own freedoms, much the same way that the United States forged its way using the Magna Carta and British Bill of Rights all those years ago as inspiration.


October 19, 2019
Is 'Hate Speech' Dangerous?
By H.K. Rivera

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/10/is_hate_speech_dangerous.html
 
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