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Mott the Hoople

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Isn't it ironic to the point of hypocracy that Jeff Sessions, a man who was rejected by the US Senate for an appellate position due to his radicalism and racially intolerant views has the gall and hutzpah to actually accuse any one else, let alone Sonya Sottameyer, of racial bias? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. This is nothing but sour grapes by Sessions. What an amatuer.
 
Do you practice at being obtuse and stupid or is it a talent you were born with? I do so tire of unintelligable coments from GED equivalents such as you.
 
Mottleydude said:
Do you practice at being obtuse and stupid or is it a talent you were born with? I do so tire of unintelligable coments from GED equivalents such as you.
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It's not his fault that you picked the wrong analogy.

"Pot calling the kettle black" means when somebody points out a flaw that they share. Both the pot and the kettle are black, if this was such a scenario then it would mean that Sotomayor shared the flaw that got him rejected.
 
Damocles said:
It's not his fault that you picked the wrong analogy.

"Pot calling the kettle black" means when somebody points out a flaw that they share. Both the pot and the kettle are black, if this was such a scenario then it would mean that Sotomayor shared the flaw that got him rejected.
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No, you two don't understand the analogy. It means that a person is guilty of psychological projection.

Definition - The Pot Calling The Kettle Black ( to say something about someone else which is actually true of you yourself ... )
 
Mottleydude said:
No, you two don't understand the analogy. It means that a person is guilty of psychological projection.

Definition - The Pot Calling The Kettle Black ( to say something about someone else which is actually true of you yourself ... )
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sorry Mott....Damocles pegged it....you should have spent more time studying while you were in college learning to be an atheist.....
 
Mottleydude said:
Do you practice at being obtuse and stupid or is it a talent you were born with? I do so tire of unintelligable coments from GED equivalents such as you.
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wow, who'd have thought that you, of all people, would have jumped on the topspin bandwagon about education. you just made yourself look dumber than he is.
 
Mottleydude said:
No, you two don't understand the analogy. It means that a person is guilty of psychological projection.

Definition - The Pot Calling The Kettle Black ( to say something about someone else which is actually true of you yourself ... )
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Again, not so. Both the pot and the kettle are black. The point of the saying is that they both share the property that the "pot" accuses the "kettle" of, it would be like a man accusing another man of having a penis. Two crooks with their hands in each others pockets one accusing the other of pickpocketing, two kids holding and ogling an open porn magazine and one accusing the other of looking...
 
Mottleydude said:
No, you two don't understand the analogy. It means that a person is guilty of psychological projection.

Definition - The Pot Calling The Kettle Black ( to say something about someone else which is actually true of you yourself ... )
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Wasn't it you who also did not understand what a strawman argument was?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
sorry Mott....Damocles pegged it....you should have spent more time studying while you were in college learning to be an atheist.....
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Yea GED. Not only did I go to college and grad school...I actually studied real subjects. Face it dude. You're wrong and dont' know what your talking about. Oh yea....I forgot. Denial is in Egypt for you, isn't it?
 
Mottleydude said:
Yea GED. Not only did I go to college and grad school...I actually studied real subjects. Face it dude. You're wrong and dont' know what your talking about. Oh yea....I forgot. Denial is in Egypt for you, isn't it?
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that's the third time today I have read something about denial in Egypt......not only are you folks not very bright, apparently you aren't very original either.....
 
Damocles said:
Again, not so. Both the pot and the kettle are black. The point of the saying is that they both share the property that the "pot" accuses the "kettle" of, it would be like a man accusing another man of having a penis. Two crooks with their hands in each others pockets one accusing the other of pickpocketing, two kids holding and ogling an open porn magazine and one accusing the other of looking...
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Dude, that's the definition of the phrase from the dictionary. I didn't make the saying up or its definition.
 
Mottleydude said:
Dude, that's the definition of the phrase from the dictionary. I didn't make the saying up or its definition.
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Dude, I also got my definition from the dictionary.

The colloquialism was misused in this instance or you made a fruedian slip...

Anyway, further explanation from the SAME SITE you got this from:

The Pot Calling The Kettle Black ( to say something about someone else which is actually true of you yourself ... )

You are the pot calling the kettle black when you point to another person and accuse that person of doing something that you are guilty of doing yourself. Example: "You are accusing me of being lazy? Ha! That's the pot calling the kettle black!"

"The pot" (for cooking) and "the kettle" (for boiling water) sit on the stove over the fire and become black from the flames. Example: "I'm tired of you always wearing my clothing!" Answer: "Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black? You're wearing my pants right now!"

The pot and the kettle are like old friends who have turned black with time; the pot only sees the blackness which is on the kettle; he doesn't see the black on himself. Example: "Here comes the guy who is always late for work." Answer: "Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black? You are usually the last person to show up!"

(The bold is mine.)

I surmise that you didn't link up to the "dictionary" you got it from because of the further explanations that were on that very site.

http://www.goenglish.com/ThePotCallingTheKettleBlack.asp

Anyway, the point of it is both the pot and the kettle are black, thus the turn of phrase speaks to how BOTH mentioned share the same property, that of blackness. If, in this case, Sessions was the "pot" calling the "kettle" black, both Sotomayor and Sessions would share the property he accuses her of.
 
Damocles said:
Dude, I also got my definition from the dictionary.

The colloquialism was misused in this instance or you made a fruedian slip...

Anyway, further explanation from the SAME SITE you got this from:

The Pot Calling The Kettle Black ( to say something about someone else which is actually true of you yourself ... )

You are the pot calling the kettle black when you point to another person and accuse that person of doing something that you are guilty of doing yourself. Example: "You are accusing me of being lazy? Ha! That's the pot calling the kettle black!"

"The pot" (for cooking) and "the kettle" (for boiling water) sit on the stove over the fire and become black from the flames. Example: "I'm tired of you always wearing my clothing!" Answer: "Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black? You're wearing my pants right now!"

The pot and the kettle are like old friends who have turned black with time; the pot only sees the blackness which is on the kettle; he doesn't see the black on himself. Example: "Here comes the guy who is always late for work." Answer: "Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black? You are usually the last person to show up!"

(The bold is mine.)

I surmise that you didn't link up to the "dictionary" you got it from because of the further explanations that were on that very site.

http://www.goenglish.com/ThePotCallingTheKettleBlack.asp

Anyway, the point of it is both the pot and the kettle are black, thus the turn of phrase speaks to how BOTH mentioned share the same property, that of blackness. If, in this case, Sessions was the "pot" calling the "kettle" black, both Sotomayor and Sessions would share the property he accuses her of.
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You're not being consistent here. You said

"Pot calling the kettle black" means when somebody points out a flaw that they share."

That is not the correct definition of the phrase, as I pointed out.

In other words, I used it in its correct context. You did not.
 
Mottleydude said:
You're not being consistent here. You said

"Pot calling the kettle black" means when somebody points out a flaw that they share."

That is not the correct definition of the phrase, as I pointed out.

In other words, I used it in its correct context. You did not.
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Again, the whole of the definition shows that what I stated is correct. The ... at the end of the "definition" you have shows that further information is coming. Going down the page we read exactly what I stated. In each of the examples they shared the properties of the accusation.

"He is always late", "so are you"... "You wear my clothes!", "You wear mine!", etc.

Basically the phrase means "So are you". You took a partial definition out of its context in order to buttress a poor argument. You've been caught out.

The phrase doesn't mean what you think it means.
 
Anyway, Mott...

Here is the definition I have in my actual dictionary right here.

pot calling the kettle black

1. (idiomatic) A situation in which somebody comments on or accuses someone else of a fault which the accuser shares.

I think it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black when she says he is obsessive.

It's a Mirriam-Webster dictionary, and it is the only definition there.
 
Damocles said:
Again, the whole of the definition shows that what I stated is correct. The ... at the end of the "definition" you have shows that further information is coming. Going down the page we read exactly what I stated. In each of the examples they shared the properties of the accusation.

"He is always late", "so are you"... "You wear my clothes!", "You wear mine!", etc.

Basically the phrase means "So are you". You took a partial definition out of its context in order to buttress a poor argument. You've been caught out.

The phrase doesn't mean what you think it means.
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JWC, has everyone freaked out on this forum? I've never seen such an angry bunch.
 
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