Supreme Court strikes proper balance on presidential immunity

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Supreme Court strikes proper balance on presidential immunity

As prosecutors nakedly abuse the powers of their office for partisan purposes, the Supreme Court’s decision to extend criminal immunity to a president’s official acts is prudent. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s politically motivated prosecution and special counsel Jack Smith’s politically timed prosecution make the dangers clear.

With lawfare now a routine means of weakening political opponents, the court’s 6-3 majority in Trump v. United States struck the right balance, extending the immunity presidents already enjoy in the civil context, which all nine justices support, to the criminal context.

Critics of presidential immunity are right when they say there is no “presidential immunity clause” in the Constitution. But there is no separation of powers clause either and yet that legal concept has been a guiding principle of constitutional law since the Supreme Court’s first decision.

More than 40 years ago in Nixon v. Fitzgerald, an Air Force employee sued President Richard Nixon in civil court. Nixon was out of office, but the plaintiff sought damages for Nixon’s decision to fire him after he testified to Congress about cost overruns at the Pentagon. In a narrow 5-4 decision, the majority held that “because of the singular importance of the President’s duties, diversion of his energies by concern with private lawsuits would raise unique risks to the effective functioning of government.”

When determining if a president should be exempt from a legal action, courts “must balance the constitutional weight of the interest to be served against the dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch.” The Fitzgerald majority noted that “there is a lesser public interest in actions for civil damages than, for example, in criminal prosecutions,” but the decision did not preclude immunity from a criminal complaint.


 
Justice Sonia Sotomayor argues in dissent that giving a president immunity for official actions but not unofficial ones would let presidents “feel empowered to violate federal criminal law.” The majority saw this as “fear mongering” and we agree. The majority notes that under its holding, after further fact finding by the lower court, former President Donald Trump can still be prosecuted for his efforts to create slates of alternative electors. Under this ruling, no one is above the law.

Sotomayor is irresponsible and her statements are beneath the role of Justice of the Supreme Court. Another DEI nomination.

Andrew Jackson was not prosecuted for the outrages of the trail of tears. Franklin Roosevelt was not prosecuted for the internment of ethnic Japanese residents of the United States. Bill Clinton was not prosecuted for pardoning donor Marc Rich. Presidents have long committed arguably criminal conduct in their official acts, but none have been prosecuted until now and our democracy has been better for it.

The difference now is that the Democratic Party has decided Republicans must be prevented at any cost from winning presidential elections and that abusing the criminal justice system and lying about the current president’s mental health are all justified toward that political end. The Supreme Court put a brake on that slide Tuesday and we applaud it.


Nailed it.
 
Justice Sonia Sotomayor argues in dissent that giving a president immunity for official actions but not unofficial ones would let presidents “feel empowered to violate federal criminal law.” The majority saw this as “fear mongering” and we agree. The majority notes that under its holding, after further fact finding by the lower court, former President Donald Trump can still be prosecuted for his efforts to create slates of alternative electors. Under this ruling, no one is above the law.

Sotomayor is irresponsible and her statements are beneath the role of Justice of the Supreme Court. Another DEI nomination.

Andrew Jackson was not prosecuted for the outrages of the trail of tears. Franklin Roosevelt was not prosecuted for the internment of ethnic Japanese residents of the United States. Bill Clinton was not prosecuted for pardoning donor Marc Rich. Presidents have long committed arguably criminal conduct in their official acts, but none have been prosecuted until now and our democracy has been better for it.

The difference now is that the Democratic Party has decided Republicans must be prevented at any cost from winning presidential elections and that abusing the criminal justice system and lying about the current president’s mental health are all justified toward that political end. The Supreme Court put a brake on that slide Tuesday and we applaud it.


Nailed it.
Sotomayor is correct

Humorous how all these right wing sources keep saying it all comes down to the President has immunity in official actions but not private actions, and the cult like “copy and paste” above swallows it

Unfortunately, it is not that simple, rather, it comes down to in what capacity did the President act, so that the answer to the immunity question will always be, it depends. To say that a President can not now eliminate a political rival is wrong, because, it depends.

And to determine the depends, one has to also now weigh in that the President is “presumptively immune”
 
Sotomayor is correct

She's 100% wrong and stupid to even make such arguments. You're a moron on steroids so of course you agree with her. :palm:

Humorous how all these right wing sources keep saying it all comes down to the President has immunity in official actions but not private actions, and the cult like “copy and paste” above swallows it

How is this a right-wing source? I find it humorous that you think you know what you are whining about.

Unfortunately, it is not that simple, rather, it comes down to in what capacity did the President act, so that the answer to the immunity question will always be, it depends. To say that a President can not now eliminate a political rival is wrong, because, it depends.

And to determine the depends, one has to also now weigh in that the President is “presumptively immune”

What a laughable pile of word salad. You give new meaning to the term stupid.

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