Supreme Court will examine the Lautenberg anti-gun-rights amendment

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In 1996, a politician named Lautenberg slipped an amendment into a Congressional bill, saying that anyone convicted of even a misdemeanor, if a violent act, must have his right to own firearms permanently revoked. It ignored the fact that Constitutional rights cannot be revoked willy-nilly.

One of the odder results, was that a police officer who had once slapped a suspect around, tackled and threw him to the ground, or had once been convicted ten years ago of assaulting his wife, suddenly found he could not carry a gun on duty. Thouands of seasoned patrolmen and detectives were instantly relegated to desk jobs.

Now apparently the Supremes will examine a case where someone lost his gun rights due to this Lautenberg amendment, without even knowing it had happened until years later.

It's about time. This case may have even greater impact than the DC v. Heller case currently under review by the USSC, since the Heller case affects only the DC area while this new case concerns a nationwide Federal law that violates the 2nd amendment.

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http://www.dailymail.com/News/200804300223

City lawyer going before highest court in the land

by Cheryl Caswell
Daily Mail staff
Wednesday April 30, 2008

The case of a Marion County man will go to the U.S. Supreme Court later this year, and a Charleston attorney will become one of a limited number of West Virginia lawyers to argue in that venue.

Troy Giatras will defend Randy Hayes of Mannington, a contractor convicted of a felony gun possession charge, and ask the highest court to clarify Second Amendment right to bear arms.

No matter the outcome of Hayes' case, Giatras will receive the coveted quill presented to all lawyers who come before the U.S Supreme Court.

"It's an honor," Giatras said. "For 99 percent of lawyers, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

"It's the absolute pinnacle for a lawyer," Giatras said. "Because it's the highest court in the nation."

He expects the U.S. Supreme Court to hear his case between October and December.

Out of about 5,000 petitions the court receives each year to hear cases, the justices accept only about 75. Giatras says not that many West Virginia lawyers have argued a case before the country's highest court.

Hayes' case goes back to 1994, when he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery offense after a dispute with his wife. Ten years later, an argument over their son occurred over the phone between the now-divorced parents and she asked police to go to his home.

When they searched Hayes home, an old Winchester rifle given to him by his father was found under a bed. Hayes didn't know it, but a 1996 amendment to federal gun laws made it illegal for him to possess the gun because of his prior misdemeanor offense.

Giatras was retained two days before Hayes was expected to plead guilty to the gun charge in federal court.

"We halted the entire process in March 2005," Giatras said. "Because he only pleaded guilty in 1994 to battery, not domestic battery. But the federal court interpreted it as domestic battery because it was against a family member."

"In 1994 and in 1995, he was legally able to have a gun," Giatras said. "The 1996 law was applied to him retroactively, but he didn't even know it."

The case proceeded through the Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond in October 2006 and the court reversed the earlier decision. But the U.S. Justice Department appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court and the court agreed last month to hear the case.

Giatras said the case is important because it will further define the right to own a gun and also addresses the issue of laws affecting citizens retroactively.
 
As a liberal, I'm not sure what to do. I could cry at how excessive the sentence is, or support this because it goes against guns. It's just confusing thinking about the possibilities.
 
As a liberal, I'm not sure what to do. I could cry at how excessive the sentence is, or support this because it goes against guns. It's just confusing thinking about the possibilities.

Well as a liberal, whatever you decide must involve whining and/or crying.
 
tens of thousands of people were never advised that even a stipulated civil restraining order in a domestic violence case will keep you from owning a fire arm under VAWA. I NEVER let my clients enter into one unless it is clear that they committed an act of domestic violence. And yes LOTS of men and women file domestic violence claims as a means of fucking with visitation and keeping the spouse out of the house. I see it all the time and it happens so much that we end up being successful in over half of all domestic violence cases because NO ONE called the police, and nothing was reported to anyone.
 
I can see how liberal gun grabbers would be seriously horrified that this could be ruled unconstitutional, after all, ex-post facto laws give them the ability to further control the masses
 
I've noticed in recent years judges have been declaring things that are clearly punishments and restrictions to be "statutory", which, of course, means that it can be imposed without any of the usual messy constitutional nonsense. It's getting kind of ridiculous.
 
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