The Department of Veteran Affairs lied about how many Iraq vets tried to kill themsel
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Battleborne
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Please post a link to this nonsense...you are something else...you post false numbers and specualtion on your part...to make a false point!
There are approximately 25m veterans in the U.S....5m receiving VAcare....The suicide rate of vets is approximately 20 per 100,000 per year or 1000 vets committ suicide per year.....this includes all vets in the 25-65 years of age range...
In the U.S. population as a whole approximately 30,000 suicide deaths and 1.4m suicide attempts per year...these are the facts...!
www.va.gov/OIG/54/reports/VAOIG-06-03706-126.pdf
Please post a link to this nonsense...you are something else...you post false numbers and specualtion on your part...to make a false point!
There are approximately 25m veterans in the U.S....5m receiving VAcare....The suicide rate of vets is approximately 20 per 100,000 per year or 1000 vets committ suicide per year.....this includes all vets in the 25-65 years of age range...
In the U.S. population as a whole approximately 30,000 suicide deaths and 1.4m suicide attempts per year...these are the facts...!
www.va.gov/OIG/54/reports/VAOIG-06-03706-126.pdf
Socrtease
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I very rarely read your posts but I knew you were going to deny it. After the head of the VA denied to CBS that the number was much higher than he was saying, someone made public an e-mail he sent out about the number of vet suicide attempts per month being approx 1000 per month. It is NOT all Iraq vets it is vets in general. Here is the link you non news watching bad news denier.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24302814/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24302814/
Socrtease
Verified User
And just because I know you won't read it:
WASHINGTON - Two Democratic senators have called for the chief mental health official of the Veterans Affairs Department to resign, saying he tried to cover up the rising number of veteran suicides.
Sens. Daniel Akaka of Hawaii and Patty Murray of Washington state said Tuesday that Dr. Ira Katz, the VA's mental health director, withheld crucial information on the true suicide risk among veterans.
"Dr. Katz's irresponsible actions have been a disservice to our veterans, and it is time for him to go," said Murray, a member of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee. "The No. 1 priority of the VA should be caring for our veterans, not covering up the truth."
Akaka, the committee's chairman, said in a letter to the VA that Katz's "personal conduct and professional judgment" had been called into question by his response to veteran suicides.
Veterans, and the VA itself, "would be best served by his immediate resignation," Akaka said.
A number of Democratic senators said they were appalled at e-mails showing Katz and other VA officials apparently trying to conceal the number of suicides by veterans. An e-mail message from Katz disclosed this week as part of a lawsuit that went to trial in San Francisco starts with "Shh!" and claims 12,000 veterans a year attempt suicide while under department treatment.
"Is this something we should (carefully) address ourselves in some sort of release before someone stumbles on it?" the e-mail asks.
A VA spokesman declined to comment Tuesday.
Demands for better tracking of suicides
Another e-mail said an average of 18 war veterans kill themselves each day — and five of them are under VA care when they commit suicide.
"It is completely outrageous that the federal agency charged with helping veterans would instead cover up the hard truth — that more and more Americans coming home after bravely fighting for their country are suffering from mental illnesses and in the most tragic circumstances, committing suicide," said Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa. "Anyone at the VA who is involved in this cover-up should be removed immediately."
Harkin, Murray and Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., introduced legislation Tuesday calling on the VA to track how many veterans commit suicide each year. Currently, VA facilities record the number of suicides and attempted suicides in VA facilities — but do not record how many veterans overall take their own lives. The agency, however, is reluctant to disclose specific numbers, veterans advocates complain.
The new bill would require the VA to report to Congress within 180 days the number of veterans who have died by suicide since Jan. 1, 1997, and continue reports annually. Harkin's office said statistics provided earlier this year by the VA showed that 790 veterans under VA care attempted suicide in 2007. That figure is contradicted by the e-mail revealed this week.
Two veterans groups last year filed the class-action lawsuit against a sprawling VA system that handled a record 838,000 claims last year. A government lawyer on Monday urged a judge to dismiss the lawsuit, saying the agency runs a "world class" medical care system.
WASHINGTON - Two Democratic senators have called for the chief mental health official of the Veterans Affairs Department to resign, saying he tried to cover up the rising number of veteran suicides.
Sens. Daniel Akaka of Hawaii and Patty Murray of Washington state said Tuesday that Dr. Ira Katz, the VA's mental health director, withheld crucial information on the true suicide risk among veterans.
"Dr. Katz's irresponsible actions have been a disservice to our veterans, and it is time for him to go," said Murray, a member of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee. "The No. 1 priority of the VA should be caring for our veterans, not covering up the truth."
Akaka, the committee's chairman, said in a letter to the VA that Katz's "personal conduct and professional judgment" had been called into question by his response to veteran suicides.
Veterans, and the VA itself, "would be best served by his immediate resignation," Akaka said.
A number of Democratic senators said they were appalled at e-mails showing Katz and other VA officials apparently trying to conceal the number of suicides by veterans. An e-mail message from Katz disclosed this week as part of a lawsuit that went to trial in San Francisco starts with "Shh!" and claims 12,000 veterans a year attempt suicide while under department treatment.
"Is this something we should (carefully) address ourselves in some sort of release before someone stumbles on it?" the e-mail asks.
A VA spokesman declined to comment Tuesday.
Demands for better tracking of suicides
Another e-mail said an average of 18 war veterans kill themselves each day — and five of them are under VA care when they commit suicide.
"It is completely outrageous that the federal agency charged with helping veterans would instead cover up the hard truth — that more and more Americans coming home after bravely fighting for their country are suffering from mental illnesses and in the most tragic circumstances, committing suicide," said Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa. "Anyone at the VA who is involved in this cover-up should be removed immediately."
Harkin, Murray and Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., introduced legislation Tuesday calling on the VA to track how many veterans commit suicide each year. Currently, VA facilities record the number of suicides and attempted suicides in VA facilities — but do not record how many veterans overall take their own lives. The agency, however, is reluctant to disclose specific numbers, veterans advocates complain.
The new bill would require the VA to report to Congress within 180 days the number of veterans who have died by suicide since Jan. 1, 1997, and continue reports annually. Harkin's office said statistics provided earlier this year by the VA showed that 790 veterans under VA care attempted suicide in 2007. That figure is contradicted by the e-mail revealed this week.
Two veterans groups last year filed the class-action lawsuit against a sprawling VA system that handled a record 838,000 claims last year. A government lawyer on Monday urged a judge to dismiss the lawsuit, saying the agency runs a "world class" medical care system.
KingRaw!
I dare you to stop us GL
Please post a link to this nonsense...you are something else...you post false numbers and specualtion on your part...to make a false point!
God I'm so sick of assholes like you. Everytime I make any argument or claim, some jackass wants a link. Even retarded things like "prove one gay couple in America wants to adopt a child" I swear some idiot told me that. You know what? Go fuck yourself you fake patriot, neo con. Watch the news like the rest of us.
God I'm so sick of assholes like you. Everytime I make any argument or claim, some jackass wants a link. Even retarded things like "prove one gay couple in America wants to adopt a child" I swear some idiot told me that. You know what? Go fuck yourself you fake patriot, neo con. Watch the news like the rest of us.
cawacko
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King Raw I have your back homeboy. Eliminate citizen from his misery and then register cracker and serve your country.
You know what is amazing, is that this clown actually began an email about this subject with "Shhhh". WTF? Another Bush appointee doing a heck of a job. They could hire random first graders to fill these spots and do better. In my opinion, this guy should be fired just for writing that in a professional email about such a tragic subject. I would have fired him on the spot for that.