The price of lax gun laws

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/23/opinion/23tue2.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Editorial
Price of Lax Gun Laws

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Published: December 23, 2008

For years, the gun lobby has defeated new gun control laws partly by arguing that stronger laws do not deter crime. A study prepared by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a bipartisan group headed by Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York and Mayor Thomas Menino of Boston, should finally put that myth to rest.
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The study analyzed trace data for guns used in connection with crimes during 2007. The data reveal a strong correlation between weak state gun laws and higher rates of in-state murders, police slayings and sales of guns used in crimes in other states.

Many states have enacted strong gun laws to supplement inadequate federal ones, including mandatory background checks on gun show sales. States requiring the same background checks at gun shows as those required for store purchases show an export rate for guns used in crimes that’s nearly half the national average. This argues for Congressional action to end the gun-show loophole nationally. States with weak gun laws produce different outcomes. More than half the guns recovered in out-of-state crimes last year were supplied by Georgia, Florida, Texas, Virginia and six other states where weak laws make it easy for gun traffickers and other criminals to obtain weapons.

Weak gun laws also put a state’s own citizens at risk. There were nearly 60 percent more gun murders in the 10 states where exports were highest than in the states with low export rates — and nearly three times as many fatal shootings of law enforcement officers.

The study by the mayors’ group isn’t the first to document the link between weak gun laws and gun violence or the “iron pipeline” by which guns flow from states with weak gun laws into states with strong ones. Still, the numbers are startling. They explain why the gun lobby resisted their release, and they provide a powerful retort to those who claim tougher gun laws don’t work.
 
I read this report and could only fucking laugh because it's so damned obvious that they are pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. anyone who knows anything about state gun laws knows that those mayors saying california has lax gun laws it just trying to lie to the majority of idiots out there......and West Virginia? please.

and bipartisan group? ROFL
 
A couple points:

The study described is not referenced, therefore the writer can claim anything he want to claim about its results.

The group "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" is about as "bi-partisan" as the old Soviet Politbureau.

There have been innumerable studies supposedly showing reason for stronger gun control laws. Every one of those studies has been proven to be based on falsified or incomplete data and unsupported base assumptions. The described "study" (which is conveniently not referenced to see the real data) will undoubtedly be as easily debunked as the rest of them have been.

The New York Times is one of the most lying pieces of rag ever to claim the title of news paper.
 
Good Luck said:
There have been innumerable studies supposedly showing reason for stronger gun control laws. Every one of those studies has been proven to be based on falsified or incomplete data and unsupported base assumptions. The described "study" (which is conveniently not referenced to see the real data) will undoubtedly be as easily debunked as the rest of them have been.
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Please presebt every piece of work every made on the subject of gun control having a positive effect and your criticism of it, to verify your claims.
 
Good Luck said:
The New York Times is one of the most lying pieces of rag ever to claim the title of news paper.
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The New York Times is a small bright spot in a nation that has no common sense. It's the only paper that doesn't lie and the only one worth reading anywhere.

Go watch Fox News now.
 
Watermark said:
Please presebt every piece of work every made on the subject of gun control having a positive effect and your criticism of it, to verify your claims.
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You first. Referencing op-eds to defend your totalitarianism does not do much for your arguments.
 
Watermark said:
The New York Times is a small bright spot in a nation that has no common sense. It's the only paper that doesn't lie and the only one worth reading anywhere.
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NYT lies more than most politicians do, and has the most obvious political agenda of any other so-called news source. (See-BS is a distant second, followed closely by Fox - though Fox supports the "other" ideology) NYT is just the kind of "news" a mindless twit who chooses to let others think for them would prefer.
 
Good Luck said:
Yes, I know. Interesting that you choose to reference an opinion to back your opinion. A trade mark action of one who knows their arguments are the stuff of natural organic fertilizers.
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Good Luck, I don't know how often you've posted here, but it's a common practice to post opinion pieces. I sometimes post ones I don't even necessarily agree with.
 
Watermark said:
The New York Times is a small bright spot in a nation that has no common sense. It's the only paper that doesn't lie and the only one worth reading anywhere.

Go watch Fox News now.
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LOL

What will you do when they fold and go bankrupt? Or worse be bought out by Rupert Murdoch, owner of the evil empire Fox News.


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