There's no such thing as a conservative intellectual

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Right on the head



In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation. This does not mean, of course, that there is no impulse to conservatism or to reaction. Such impulses are certainly very strong, perhaps even stronger than most of us know. But the conservative impulse and the reactionary impulse do not, with some isolated and some ecclesiastical exceptions, express themselves in ideas but only in action or in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas.


Three-quarters of a century later, Trilling's statement remains broadly true, as a glance at conservative books will attest. The hundreds of conservative book titles that have geysered out of Regnery, Broadside and other right-wing imprints in recent years are almost invariably distinguished by their numbing sameness: a shrill cry of victimhood, a hunt for scapegoats, a tone that alternates between hysteria and heavy sarcasm, and a recipe for salvation cribbed from Republican National Committee talking points and Heritage Foundation issue briefs. The fact that they sometimes hit the bestseller list is principally due to the well-funded conservative media-entertainment complex's bulk-purchase scam.


A desire for hierarchy and human inequality. This belief derives from the medieval religious notion of the Great Chain of Being, whereby there is a place for everybody and everybody must know his place. It justifies economic exploitation and denial of political rights. Conservative writers propagandize on its behalf with a straw-man argument: Any gain in equality costs society an equal or greater loss in freedom; egalitarianism is the mere soulless equality of the gulag, where we cannot own property and must share toothbrushes. This sentiment pops up consistently in the works of American conservative theorists, from Buckley's "Unless you have freedom to be unequal, there is no such thing as freedom," to David Brooks' hankering for rule by a wise elite. American-style laissez-faire economics and libertarianism are largely based on this idea.


The only acceptable society is based on Christianity. Never mind the establishment clause of the First Amendment; conservatives will forever try to smuggle in more and more official endorsement of religion until the United States is effectively a theocracy. The rationale is that some sort of divine or transcendental dispensation is the sole basis for a just temporal order. Translated into the bumper-sticker mentality of American Christian fundamentalism, that means that if people don't believe in God, there's nothing to stop them from running amok and killing people. This thesis would have been news to medieval crusaders, the Holy Inquisition, Francisco Franco's Falangists or the Russian Archbishop Kyrill, who has blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the resulting carnage.


https://news.yahoo.com/theres-no-thing-conservative-intellectual-160001070.html
 
Right on the head



In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation. This does not mean, of course, that there is no impulse to conservatism or to reaction. Such impulses are certainly very strong, perhaps even stronger than most of us know. But the conservative impulse and the reactionary impulse do not, with some isolated and some ecclesiastical exceptions, express themselves in ideas but only in action or in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas.


Three-quarters of a century later, Trilling's statement remains broadly true, as a glance at conservative books will attest. The hundreds of conservative book titles that have geysered out of Regnery, Broadside and other right-wing imprints in recent years are almost invariably distinguished by their numbing sameness: a shrill cry of victimhood, a hunt for scapegoats, a tone that alternates between hysteria and heavy sarcasm, and a recipe for salvation cribbed from Republican National Committee talking points and Heritage Foundation issue briefs. The fact that they sometimes hit the bestseller list is principally due to the well-funded conservative media-entertainment complex's bulk-purchase scam.


A desire for hierarchy and human inequality. This belief derives from the medieval religious notion of the Great Chain of Being, whereby there is a place for everybody and everybody must know his place. It justifies economic exploitation and denial of political rights. Conservative writers propagandize on its behalf with a straw-man argument: Any gain in equality costs society an equal or greater loss in freedom; egalitarianism is the mere soulless equality of the gulag, where we cannot own property and must share toothbrushes. This sentiment pops up consistently in the works of American conservative theorists, from Buckley's "Unless you have freedom to be unequal, there is no such thing as freedom," to David Brooks' hankering for rule by a wise elite. American-style laissez-faire economics and libertarianism are largely based on this idea.


The only acceptable society is based on Christianity. Never mind the establishment clause of the First Amendment; conservatives will forever try to smuggle in more and more official endorsement of religion until the United States is effectively a theocracy. The rationale is that some sort of divine or transcendental dispensation is the sole basis for a just temporal order. Translated into the bumper-sticker mentality of American Christian fundamentalism, that means that if people don't believe in God, there's nothing to stop them from running amok and killing people. This thesis would have been news to medieval crusaders, the Holy Inquisition, Francisco Franco's Falangists or the Russian Archbishop Kyrill, who has blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the resulting carnage.


https://news.yahoo.com/theres-no-thing-conservative-intellectual-160001070.html

you're an imbecile.
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Right on the head



In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation. This does not mean, of course, that there is no impulse to conservatism or to reaction. Such impulses are certainly very strong, perhaps even stronger than most of us know. But the conservative impulse and the reactionary impulse do not, with some isolated and some ecclesiastical exceptions, express themselves in ideas but only in action or in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas.


Three-quarters of a century later, Trilling's statement remains broadly true, as a glance at conservative books will attest. The hundreds of conservative book titles that have geysered out of Regnery, Broadside and other right-wing imprints in recent years are almost invariably distinguished by their numbing sameness: a shrill cry of victimhood, a hunt for scapegoats, a tone that alternates between hysteria and heavy sarcasm, and a recipe for salvation cribbed from Republican National Committee talking points and Heritage Foundation issue briefs. The fact that they sometimes hit the bestseller list is principally due to the well-funded conservative media-entertainment complex's bulk-purchase scam.


A desire for hierarchy and human inequality. This belief derives from the medieval religious notion of the Great Chain of Being, whereby there is a place for everybody and everybody must know his place. It justifies economic exploitation and denial of political rights. Conservative writers propagandize on its behalf with a straw-man argument: Any gain in equality costs society an equal or greater loss in freedom; egalitarianism is the mere soulless equality of the gulag, where we cannot own property and must share toothbrushes. This sentiment pops up consistently in the works of American conservative theorists, from Buckley's "Unless you have freedom to be unequal, there is no such thing as freedom," to David Brooks' hankering for rule by a wise elite. American-style laissez-faire economics and libertarianism are largely based on this idea.


The only acceptable society is based on Christianity. Never mind the establishment clause of the First Amendment; conservatives will forever try to smuggle in more and more official endorsement of religion until the United States is effectively a theocracy. The rationale is that some sort of divine or transcendental dispensation is the sole basis for a just temporal order. Translated into the bumper-sticker mentality of American Christian fundamentalism, that means that if people don't believe in God, there's nothing to stop them from running amok and killing people. This thesis would have been news to medieval crusaders, the Holy Inquisition, Francisco Franco's Falangists or the Russian Archbishop Kyrill, who has blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the resulting carnage.


https://news.yahoo.com/theres-no-thing-conservative-intellectual-160001070.html

a guy who get's his intellectual standards from a place called yahoo thinks someone else isn't intellectual......
 
In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation
All MAGA does is complain about what Democrats are doing.

They have none of their own original and independent policy ideas.

The last time conservatives passionately advocated for their own original policy was when they were hollering at me that invading Iraq would be an awesome idea.
 
Conservatism = repackaging and reinventing we/they theory. Bitter political division = the death of the USA and democracy. We must be able to discuss ideas.

Where is the conservative health care plan?

Where is the conservative solution to climate change?

What is the conservative plan to fix Social Security?

What is the conservative plan to address poverty?

Conservatism doesn't really offer much besides reasons to hate liberals, immigrants and government.

One thing is very clear. Hatred will not make America greater.

And there is no 'again' about America being great for Black People. America never was great for black people. Therefore, maga is racist.
 
The Repub party has eschewed making a platform to run on lately. They know whoever they get in power will do what the wealthy and corporations tell them to do.
 
Certainly in the era of Murdoch and Trump, infotainment and radio/TV demagogues have replaced the Buckley and Rushers
 
Right on the head



In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation. This does not mean, of course, that there is no impulse to conservatism or to reaction. Such impulses are certainly very strong, perhaps even stronger than most of us know. But the conservative impulse and the reactionary impulse do not, with some isolated and some ecclesiastical exceptions, express themselves in ideas but only in action or in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas.


Three-quarters of a century later, Trilling's statement remains broadly true, as a glance at conservative books will attest. The hundreds of conservative book titles that have geysered out of Regnery, Broadside and other right-wing imprints in recent years are almost invariably distinguished by their numbing sameness: a shrill cry of victimhood, a hunt for scapegoats, a tone that alternates between hysteria and heavy sarcasm, and a recipe for salvation cribbed from Republican National Committee talking points and Heritage Foundation issue briefs. The fact that they sometimes hit the bestseller list is principally due to the well-funded conservative media-entertainment complex's bulk-purchase scam.


A desire for hierarchy and human inequality. This belief derives from the medieval religious notion of the Great Chain of Being, whereby there is a place for everybody and everybody must know his place. It justifies economic exploitation and denial of political rights. Conservative writers propagandize on its behalf with a straw-man argument: Any gain in equality costs society an equal or greater loss in freedom; egalitarianism is the mere soulless equality of the gulag, where we cannot own property and must share toothbrushes. This sentiment pops up consistently in the works of American conservative theorists, from Buckley's "Unless you have freedom to be unequal, there is no such thing as freedom," to David Brooks' hankering for rule by a wise elite. American-style laissez-faire economics and libertarianism are largely based on this idea.


The only acceptable society is based on Christianity. Never mind the establishment clause of the First Amendment; conservatives will forever try to smuggle in more and more official endorsement of religion until the United States is effectively a theocracy. The rationale is that some sort of divine or transcendental dispensation is the sole basis for a just temporal order. Translated into the bumper-sticker mentality of American Christian fundamentalism, that means that if people don't believe in God, there's nothing to stop them from running amok and killing people. This thesis would have been news to medieval crusaders, the Holy Inquisition, Francisco Franco's Falangists or the Russian Archbishop Kyrill, who has blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the resulting carnage.


https://news.yahoo.com/theres-no-thing-conservative-intellectual-160001070.html

Do any conservatives want to be intellectuals?
 
There are no progressive intellectuals either.

No true intellectual would be a partisan for any biased political ideology or agenda.

The very nature of intellectualism includes the understanding that nothing is perfect and no ideology is 100% correct.
 
1. A desire for hierarchy and human inequality.

2. The only acceptable society is based on Christianity.

3. We must obey tradition.

https://www.salon.com/2023/07/01/th...ectual--only-apologists-for-right-wing-power/

Well, isn't that specially stupid...

The most conservative nations on the planet are all Muslim so two is clearly dead flat wrong...

At the same time, of the countries considered most liberal

https://wisevoter.com/country-ranki...Liberal Countries # , 8.25 42 more rows

Half of the top 10 have an official state religion:

Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland all have state churches in Lutheranism.
Costa Rica is Catholic

The top 10 are also heavy on traditions.

So, I'd say the list in the Salon article is drivel written by an idiot, well, a radical Leftist Democrat but I repeat myself. Even his explanation of those three ideas is drivel.

Addressing #1

Buckley's "Unless you have freedom to be unequal, there is no such thing as freedom," to David Brooks' hankering for rule by a wise elite.

This shows a complete lack of understanding. The first quote is correct and Buckley is a deep thinker in saying it, unlike Lofgren. If equality were only measured in quantifiable terms and required to be held in balance, it would require a serious authoritarian or totalitarian government keeping track of everyone and everything to maintain that equality. Freedom comes with the right to be unequal in terms of quantifiable things.

The radical Left loves the idea of a ruling elite. The leaders of the Left all style themselves as great intellectuals even when they demonstrate their utter and complete stupidity.

Then Lofgren adds this imbicility:

American-style laissez-faire economics and libertarianism are largely based on this idea. He points to this as a conservative set of ideas in a desire for hierarchy and inequality. That is, he thinks it's hierarchical and unequal that everyone has access to the marketplace whether it be goods or ideas. I guess his idea of equality is a socialist / communist rigidly controlled set of economics where no one can be better or work harder than anyone else.

I already showed the absurdity of #2, in that religion is hardly limited to Christianity and one version of Christianity.

On point #3, he injects this absurdity to try and make his point:

To paraphrase Edmund Burke, if we're going to have democracy, let's extend it to the dead. Scratch someone who fancies himself an educated conservative and you will often find a person who reveres the past; unfortunately they leave out details like slavery, witch burning and childbed fever.

Conservativism has moved beyond all that, and unlike the radical Left, doesn't want a return to it. The Left does however, in new and different forms doing the same thing. Slavery? They are all for socialism, communism, and "social justice" of the sort China today practices with scoring every person's actions and government penalizing or rewarding them. You are in essence a slave when you are required by law and threat of punishment to act in a specific set of ways whether you want to or not.
Witch burning? The Left always holds up Boogiemen to maintain control. "White supremacists," Trump, or whatever the enemy de jour might be. Big Brother will protect you from Goldstein who is the all encompassing enemy of the state.

It's projection of all that's wrong with the Left onto their enemies by Lofgren. He's an idiot. His article is rubbish.
 
The Repub party has eschewed making a platform to run on lately. They know whoever they get in power will do what the wealthy and corporations tell them to do.

It is because the Republicans have been invaded by the parasites Donald Trump, Evangelism, White Supremacist extremist groups, the Freedom Caucus, and the Federalist Society!
 
It is because the Republicans have been invaded by the parasites Donald Trump, Evangelism, White Supremacist extremist groups, the Freedom Caucus, and the Federalist Society!

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You're so passionate about witch burnings...
 
Conservatism = repackaging and reinventing we/they theory. Bitter political division = the death of the USA and democracy. We must be able to discuss ideas.

"We/they?" The Left are the ultimate purveyors of that. Oppressors and oppressed. Rich v. Poor. Workers v. owners. They not only find political division in everything, they foment violence and hatred in furtherance of it.

Where is the conservative health care plan?

Like the one where government is kicked out of this market entirely and it sanely returns to a market driven, lower priced, one where virtually everyone can afford to go to a doctor and pay for it themselves? That one?

The Left's health care plan is to let government ineptly and expensively run it all and tax the snot out of everyone to pay for it regardless of use.
Where is the conservative solution to climate change?

Is there even a need for this? You blithely assume that this is a serious problem even as the Leftist Greentard front has repeatedly proved wrong on every prediction they make about it. How many times can someone cry "WOLF!" before you stop believing them?

What is the conservative plan to fix Social Security?

I'd say the most cognitive one would be to partially privatize it like a 401K plan so that it actually makes money and grows. Along with that set it aside from being pilfered by politicians.

What is the conservative plan to address poverty?

Get a job? Work hard? That seems far more reasonable than perpetual welfare and handouts to the undeserving.

Conservatism doesn't really offer much besides reasons to hate liberals, immigrants and government.

Liberals (well, Leftists) hate Conservatives. Conservatives don't hate immigrants. They hate ILLEGAL immigrants, while the Left celebrates the lawlessness of that. Any sane person would be wary of government and extra wary of more government.

One thing is very clear. Hatred will not make America greater.

And there is no 'again' about America being great for Black People. America never was great for black people. Therefore, maga is racist.

Agreed. That's why the Left needs to be kicked to the curb and ignored. The Left has historically been the single most destructive, hateful, dangerous, evil force in politics for centuries.

America is great for Blacks. Blacks in America are better off than in almost any other nation on the planet. That's why Blacks from elsewhere immigrate to America, and why Blacks in America don't immigrate somewhere else. There's nothing holding Blacks in America back from leaving, other than that they intuitively know they'll be worse off for doing so.
It's only when the Left starts playing divisive games based on race and economics within the US, ignoring the rest of the world, that they can make Blacks out to have less and most of why they have less is the Left wants to force them into being on government welfare and other controlling notions of government rather than making it on their own.
 
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