Trump Can and Should Be Disqualified From Running for President Under the 14th Amendm

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The “Disqualification Clause” found in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment fits Donald J. Trump like a glove.

Or as political podcaster Allison Gill : “if section 3 of the 14th amendment wasn’t designed for him, who was it designed for?”

The historical answer to Gill’s query is, of course, that it was designed for Confederates trying to get back into the federal government after losing the Civil War. And that very same historical context draws a direct analogy to Trump’s efforts to get back into the presidency after losing the 2020 election.

Here’s what the Disqualification Clause says:

“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”

The plain language of this obviously encompasses Trump’s actions to illegally overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. These actions include but are not limited to asking the Georgia Secretary of State to find additional votes for him, conspiring to put forth slates of unelected “fake” electors for the electoral college, and his call for “wild” protests on Jan. 6 that led to the attack on the Capitol.

But while these actions have resulted in Trump being charged criminally both by the U.S. Justice Department and the State of Georgia, his disqualification does not depend upon him being convicted in either of those cases.

As pointed out by the constitutional scholar Professor Laurence Tribe and former conservative federal judge Michael Luttig in their article in The Atlantic: “the disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings and, indeed, also independently of impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation” and was “designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government by waging war on our government and by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.”

Tribe and Luttig are hardly outliers in their view. A forthcoming law review article written by Federalist Society conservative law professors—William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas—not only agrees that the disqualification is self-enforcing but also makes the case that numerous others who supported Trump’s efforts also may be disqualified.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-disqualified-running-president-under-045252761.html

FvtspNaWwAwv8Yx
 
The Amendment states the restriction, but it does not specify enforcement.

Therefore, anyone can sue him under this Amendment to disqualify him.

I believe if he survives incarceration, or even if he attempts to continue a campaign while incarcerated, to become the Republican nominee, that someone will sue him, hopefully a well funded public effort, and he will have to be judged by a court to be disqualified from office and ordered to cease and desist campaigning before his campaign will be shut down.

It is entirely possible that several states would refuse to place his name on the ballot, regardless, because of the 14th Amendment.
 
It is probable that Trump would attempt to continue running, even if incarcerated. It is also probable that the RNC would very foolishly nominate him, even if he is incarcerated.

That would be very foolish because being found guilty of serious crimes would be a game-breaker for many independent voters.

It is very unlikely that he would win a general election from prison.

But Trump never gives up. He refuses to accept it when he loses, and he refuses to back out of a race because he is down. That is why even after the Hollywood Access video surfaced, he refused to drop out even though such a scandal would have sunk the ambitions of anyone with moral values.

In the same way, he would not let being incarcerated stop him from running. He will have to be prevented.
 
[FONT=&]The “Disqualification Clause” found in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment fits Donald J. Trump like a glove.
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[FONT=&]Or as political podcaster Allison Gill : “if section 3 of the 14th amendment wasn’t designed for him, who was it designed for?”
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[FONT=&]The historical answer to Gill’s query is, of course, that it was designed for Confederates trying to get back into the federal government after losing the Civil War. And that very same historical context draws a direct analogy to Trump’s efforts to get back into the presidency after losing the 2020 election.
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[FONT=&]Here’s what the Disqualification Clause says:
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[FONT=&]“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
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[FONT=&]The plain language of this obviously encompasses Trump’s actions to illegally overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. These actions include but are not limited to asking the Georgia Secretary of State to find additional votes for him, conspiring to put forth slates of unelected “fake” electors for the electoral college, and his call for “wild” protests on Jan. 6 that led to the attack on the Capitol.
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[FONT=&]But while these actions have resulted in Trump being charged criminally both by the U.S. Justice Department and the State of Georgia, his disqualification does not depend upon him being convicted in either of those cases.
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[FONT=&]As pointed out by the constitutional scholar Professor Laurence Tribe and former conservative federal judge Michael Luttig in their article in The Atlantic: “the disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings and, indeed, also independently of impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation” and was “designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government by waging war on our government and by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.”

Tribe and Luttig are hardly outliers in their view. A forthcoming law review article written by Federalist Society conservative law professors—William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas—not only agrees that the disqualification is self-enforcing but also makes the case that numerous others who supported Trump’s efforts also may be disqualified.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-disqualified-running-president-under-045252761.html
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FvtspNaWwAwv8Yx

Sadly he can't, the 14th amendment does not list the president as being one who is addressed by the 14th amendment. The highest office it deals with is Congress.
 
The Amendment states the restriction, but it does not specify enforcement.

Therefore, anyone can sue him under this Amendment to disqualify him.

I believe if he survives incarceration, or even if he attempts to continue a campaign while incarcerated, to become the Republican nominee, that someone will sue him, hopefully a well funded public effort, and he will have to be judged by a court to be disqualified from office and ordered to cease and desist campaigning before his campaign will be shut down.

It is entirely possible that several states would refuse to place his name on the ballot, regardless, because of the 14th Amendment.

Trump is going to die in prison
 
It is probable that Trump would attempt to continue running, even if incarcerated. It is also probable that the RNC would very foolishly nominate him, even if he is incarcerated.

That would be very foolish because being found guilty of serious crimes would be a game-breaker for many independent voters.

It is very unlikely that he would win a general election from prison.

But Trump never gives up. He refuses to accept it when he loses, and he refuses to back out of a race because he is down. That is why even after the Hollywood Access video surfaced, he refused to drop out even though such a scandal would have sunk the ambitions of anyone with moral values.

In the same way, he would not let being incarcerated stop him from running. He will have to be prevented.




The Republican Party is on its death bed


It may stay alive as a relict idiots club for some time


But it will be meaningless until it is actually gone



Russia destroyed the host they used to inject the virus of lies and racism
 

NEW: A challenge has been filed in federal court to have Donald Trump removed from the 2024 race under the 14th Amendment.

Mark my words: They’ll claim they’re doing this to “protect democracy.”

Attorney Lawrence Caplan filed a challenge claiming Trump cannot legally be on the 2024 ballot because he “engaged in an insurrection.”

“The bottom line here is that President Trump both engaged in an insurrection and also gave aid and comfort to other individuals who were engaging in such actions, within the clear meaning of those terms as defined in Section Three of the 14th Amendment,” Caplan said in his filing. “Assuming that the public record to date is accurate, and we have no evidence to the contrary, Trump is no longer eligible to seek the office of the President of the United States, or of any other state of the Union.”

They can’t beat him so they have to cheat… again.
 
The Amendment states the restriction, but it does not specify enforcement.

Therefore, anyone can sue him under this Amendment to disqualify him.

I believe if he survives incarceration, or even if he attempts to continue a campaign while incarcerated, to become the Republican nominee, that someone will sue him, hopefully a well funded public effort, and he will have to be judged by a court to be disqualified from office and ordered to cease and desist campaigning before his campaign will be shut down.

It is entirely possible that several states would refuse to place his name on the ballot, regardless, because of the 14th Amendment.

Let's assume this happens and Trump is disqualified from running. Then, let's also assume that roughly half, possibly more, of the country thinks this was massive election interference by those opposed to Trump.

How does that "strengthen our democracy?" Yes, that phrase is rhetoric, but it's the language of the Left at the moment. If half the nation, possibly more, think the election was a fraud on the basis of disqualifying a leading candidate, how does that play out?

Assume that only deeper blue states disqualify Trump. How does that affect public perception of the fairness and openness of our elections?

The radical Left (you included in that) just doesn't grasp that their actions have consequences.

It's better to let Trump run on a level playing field and accept the results than it is to try and use the Tanya Harding method of elimination of your opponent.
 
Thats bullshit and its already been proven.

Um, no it hasn't. The Supreme Court has already ruled on whether the President is an Officer of the United States. He/She isn't. And thus this is not applicable to being President, the highest mentioned office is Senators and Representatives.

Sorry bud, but this ain't going to go the way you want (or I wish it would). Indeed if someone tries this and it goes to SCOTUS, the current Chief Justice presided over the ruling back in 2010 that the President is not an Officer of the United States (when the court had far less conservative justices, in fact).
 
[FONT=&]The “Disqualification Clause” found in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment fits Donald J. Trump like a glove.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]Or as political podcaster Allison Gill : “if section 3 of the 14th amendment wasn’t designed for him, who was it designed for?”
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]The historical answer to Gill’s query is, of course, that it was designed for Confederates trying to get back into the federal government after losing the Civil War. And that very same historical context draws a direct analogy to Trump’s efforts to get back into the presidency after losing the 2020 election.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]Here’s what the Disqualification Clause says:
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]The plain language of this obviously encompasses Trump’s actions to illegally overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. These actions include but are not limited to asking the Georgia Secretary of State to find additional votes for him, conspiring to put forth slates of unelected “fake” electors for the electoral college, and his call for “wild” protests on Jan. 6 that led to the attack on the Capitol.
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[FONT=&]But while these actions have resulted in Trump being charged criminally both by the U.S. Justice Department and the State of Georgia, his disqualification does not depend upon him being convicted in either of those cases.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]As pointed out by the constitutional scholar Professor Laurence Tribe and former conservative federal judge Michael Luttig in their article in The Atlantic: “the disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings and, indeed, also independently of impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation” and was “designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government by waging war on our government and by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.”

Tribe and Luttig are hardly outliers in their view. A forthcoming law review article written by Federalist Society conservative law professors—William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas—not only agrees that the disqualification is self-enforcing but also makes the case that numerous others who supported Trump’s efforts also may be disqualified.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-disqualified-running-president-under-045252761.html
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FvtspNaWwAwv8Yx

true and he even called for The Constitution to be suspended. He's a wanna-be dictator, plain and simple.
 
Let's assume this happens and Trump is disqualified from running. Then, let's also assume that roughly half, possibly more, of the country thinks this was massive election interference by those opposed to Trump.

How does that "strengthen our democracy?" Yes, that phrase is rhetoric, but it's the language of the Left at the moment. If half the nation, possibly more, think the election was a fraud on the basis of disqualifying a leading candidate, how does that play out?

Assume that only deeper blue states disqualify Trump. How does that affect public perception of the fairness and openness of our elections?

The radical Left (you included in that) just doesn't grasp that their actions have consequences.

It's better to let Trump run on a level playing field and accept the results than it is to try and use the Tanya Harding method of elimination of your opponent.

You lied about the 14th amendment as you do most everything else.
 
[FONT=&]The “Disqualification Clause” found in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment fits Donald J. Trump like a glove.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]Or as political podcaster Allison Gill : “if section 3 of the 14th amendment wasn’t designed for him, who was it designed for?”
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]The historical answer to Gill’s query is, of course, that it was designed for Confederates trying to get back into the federal government after losing the Civil War. And that very same historical context draws a direct analogy to Trump’s efforts to get back into the presidency after losing the 2020 election.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]Here’s what the Disqualification Clause says:
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]The plain language of this obviously encompasses Trump’s actions to illegally overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. These actions include but are not limited to asking the Georgia Secretary of State to find additional votes for him, conspiring to put forth slates of unelected “fake” electors for the electoral college, and his call for “wild” protests on Jan. 6 that led to the attack on the Capitol.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]But while these actions have resulted in Trump being charged criminally both by the U.S. Justice Department and the State of Georgia, his disqualification does not depend upon him being convicted in either of those cases.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]As pointed out by the constitutional scholar Professor Laurence Tribe and former conservative federal judge Michael Luttig in their article in The Atlantic: “the disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings and, indeed, also independently of impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation” and was “designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government by waging war on our government and by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.”

Tribe and Luttig are hardly outliers in their view. A forthcoming law review article written by Federalist Society conservative law professors—William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas—not only agrees that the disqualification is self-enforcing but also makes the case that numerous others who supported Trump’s efforts also may be disqualified.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-disqualified-running-president-under-045252761.html
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FvtspNaWwAwv8Yx

When are you ppl gonna get the memo? Public outrage is what took Nixon down.....you not gonna get it with Trump. Everybodies too damn afraid of them Trump nuts with guns. So stop asking for comon sense justice....WHITE PEOPLE DON'T GO TO JAIL FOR KILLING LIBERALS.
 
[FONT=&]The “Disqualification Clause” found in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment fits Donald J. Trump like a glove.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]Or as political podcaster Allison Gill : “if section 3 of the 14th amendment wasn’t designed for him, who was it designed for?”
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]The historical answer to Gill’s query is, of course, that it was designed for Confederates trying to get back into the federal government after losing the Civil War. And that very same historical context draws a direct analogy to Trump’s efforts to get back into the presidency after losing the 2020 election.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]Here’s what the Disqualification Clause says:
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]The plain language of this obviously encompasses Trump’s actions to illegally overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. These actions include but are not limited to asking the Georgia Secretary of State to find additional votes for him, conspiring to put forth slates of unelected “fake” electors for the electoral college, and his call for “wild” protests on Jan. 6 that led to the attack on the Capitol.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]But while these actions have resulted in Trump being charged criminally both by the U.S. Justice Department and the State of Georgia, his disqualification does not depend upon him being convicted in either of those cases.
[/FONT]

[FONT=&]As pointed out by the constitutional scholar Professor Laurence Tribe and former conservative federal judge Michael Luttig in their article in The Atlantic: “the disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings and, indeed, also independently of impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation” and was “designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government by waging war on our government and by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.”

Tribe and Luttig are hardly outliers in their view. A forthcoming law review article written by Federalist Society conservative law professors—William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas—not only agrees that the disqualification is self-enforcing but also makes the case that numerous others who supported Trump’s efforts also may be disqualified.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-disqualified-running-president-under-045252761.html
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FvtspNaWwAwv8Yx

Right off the top there is a problem. "...shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion..." who and by what criteria is it decided that someone has "engaged" in insurrection or rebellion?
 
extremely stupid lib'rul can and should be disqualified from posting their idiotic opinions.......

the simple fact lib'ruls don't seem to understand is that no one believes Trump actually served in the Confederate Army.......
 
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