US Ponders: How Deep Is Economic Abyss?

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US Ponders: How Deep Is Economic Abyss?

Monday March 24, 7:29 AM EDT

NEW YORK (AP) — For months, Americans have been subjected to a sort of economic water torture — a maddening drip of bad news about jobs, gas prices, sagging home values, creeping inflation, the slouching dollar and a stock market in bumpy descent.

Then came Bear Stearns. One of the five largest U.S. investment banks nearly collapsed in a single day before the government propped it up by backing emergency loans and a rival stepped in to buy it for a paltry $2 per share.

To the drumbeat of signs that seemed to foretell a traditional recession, this added a nightmarish specter — an old-style run on the bank, customers clamoring to pull their cash, a stately Wall Street firm brought to its knees.

The combination has forced the economy to the forefront of the national conversation in a way it has not been since the go-go 1990s, and for entirely opposite reasons.

As economists and Wall Street types grope for historical perspective — which is another way of saying a road map out of this mess — Americans are nervously wondering about retirement savings, interest rates, jobs that had seemed safe.

They are surveying the economic landscape and asking: Just how bad is it?

They are peering over the edge and asking: How far down?

And the scariest part of all? No one can say for sure.

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Even before the crippling of Bear Stearns, the U.S. economy was acting as a slowly tightening vise — an interconnected web of factors combining to squeeze Americans from all sides.

Take Jaci Rae of Salinas, Calif. She runs a company, Luco Sport, that sells golf bags and accessories. The merchandise is made with foam, which is based on petroleum, so record oil prices have taken a heavy toll.

On the other end, her clients are feeling the pinch, too, and cutting back. Sales to retail clients are an eighth of what they were a year ago. So Rae had to cut five of her 20 employees loose.

Now the company isn't buying products as far in advance. With gas prices running high, she waits for shipping companies to pick up products from her headquarters instead of having an employee drop them off.

She is nickel-and-diming expenses at home, too. She eats in every night, has stopped going on road trips to visit her family, dropped her satellite dish and canceled her monthly Blockbuster movie rental.

"I want to make sure I have enough money to feed my family," Rae says.

Signs of the pinch are showing up everywhere:

—By the end of 2007, 36 percent of consumers' disposable income went to food, energy and medical care, a bigger chunk of income than at any time since records were first kept in 1960, according to Merrill Lynch.

—People are treating themselves less often. The National Restaurant Association says 54 percent of restaurants reported declining traffic in January, and the government says eating at home increased last year for the first time since 2001.

—Financial planners say that more than ever, parents are calling for advice on how to deal with grown children who have moved back in with Mom and Dad after losing a job or just to save money.

—Less trash is being set on the curbs of Mesa, Ariz., where surging home foreclosures are leaving more houses empty. That means fewer homeowners paying the city $22.60 a month for pickup. And William Black, the city's solid-waste management director, says people aren't throwing out as many appliances and bulk items, like furniture. They're sticking with what they have.

On top of an economy that was already groaning under the weight of a downturn, Bear Stearns came down like an anvil.

It tied together so much of what's wrong with today's economy — the housing crash, the credit crunch and a loss of confidence among investors and consumers alike.

Understanding how things got so bad means rewinding to the start of the housing boom. Wall Street and the banks made it far easier for people with shaky credit to get a mortgage — known as a subprime loan.

Investors wanted a piece of the fast-growing mortgage pie, so there was plenty of money sloshing around the market to pay for the loans.

Financial firms sliced up the mortgages and sold them as complex investments, finding eager buyers among pension funds, hedge funds and more who were chasing higher returns and willing to overlook risks.

As long as housing prices went up, the strategy worked. When they began to crumble, so did financial stability.

The same people who made a financial stretch to buy their homes are now defaulting on the loans at alarming rates. Many are "upside down" on their loans, meaning they owe more on their mortgages than their homes are worth.

Nearly 9 million households now have upside-down mortgages, and for the first time ever, aggregate mortgage debt is bigger than the total value of homeowner equity — bigger by $836 billion, according to research by Merrill Lynch.

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From the article and highly significant.

Nearly 9 million households now have upside-down mortgages, and for the first time ever, aggregate mortgage debt is bigger than the total value of homeowner equity — bigger by $836 billion, according to research by Merrill Lynch.
 
if we are in a recession I still haven't felt the brunt of it yet. This is really the most I have seen New England Region wide:

1) some hiring freezes and select layoffs of bottom feeders, limited raises and bonuses.
2) some significant increase in price at grocery store.
3) increase in fuel costs.
 
I saw a woman being intervied in a series of segments on PBS. Up till the last segment this one woman said Ohh no there is no recession, everything is great, etc. She changed her tune on the last one as her son worked for Bear Stearns....

the old I am fine so everyone else must be too syndrome.
A trait of Republicanism ?
 
From the article and highly significant.

Nearly 9 million households now have upside-down mortgages, and for the first time ever, aggregate mortgage debt is bigger than the total value of homeowner equity — bigger by $836 billion, according to research by Merrill Lynch.


Hooray, Jingle Mail!
 
I saw a woman being intervied in a series of segments on PBS. Up till the last segment this one woman said Ohh no there is no recession, everything is great, etc. She changed her tune on the last one as her son worked for Bear Stearns....

the old I am fine so everyone else must be too syndrome.
A trait of Republicanism ?

no its true one can only make an opinion based on their surrounding's. All im saying is that I have not seen a very bad recession as of yet.

I so see some people losing their homes because of bad mortgages and/or being upsidown and choosing to dump the house.. but they find a new place to live and still have a job for the most part.

I have friends that are using more credit then they are used to, but they still have food in the fridge and a job to go to.


ALl im saying is so far its not that bad.
 
I don't think it will be as deep as some are predicting. 2001 was far worse then this so far.
 
The ever-increasing cost of gasoline leading to the ever-increasing cost of staples.....gave nearly $6.00 for a gallon of milk and nearly $3.00 for a loaf of bread Saturday......is definitely going to lead to something if wages stay stagnate. I am no economist but it isn't too difficult to read the signs that something is coming.
 
im saying now at this point in time. 6 months from now it could be worse.

Yeah, it takes time for the optimism to die down and reality to set in.
The market pretty much runs on optimism.

I suspect we will have some sort of truckers protest or strike later this year.
 
Japan Corporate Mood at Record Low

Monday March 24, 6:55 AM EDT

TOKYO (AP) — Sentiment among Japanese companies worsened during first quarter as high materials prices and a strong yen ate into their profits, a government survey showed Monday.

The dismal results add to the storm clouds surrounding the world's second-largest economy, with some analysts saying the Bank of Japan might be forced to ease monetary policy as soon as the first half of this year.

The large company business sentiment index — which measures the percentage of companies saying that the economy will improve minus those saying it will get worse — was at minus 9.3 in the January-March quarter. It was at plus 0.5 in fourth quarter, according to the survey released by the Ministry of Finance and the Cabinet Office.

The sentiment index for middle-sized firms stood at minus 14.1, while for small firms it was minus 30.4.

The figures were the lowest since the ministry began using its current survey methods in the April-June quarter of 2004, reflecting growing concerns among companies about the impact of the U.S. subprime problems on the Japanese economy.

Yet "actual business sentiment now may be worse than this survey since it was taken before the yen rose to very high levels," said Hideo Kumano, chief economist at Dai-ichi Life Research Institute.

The survey was taken on Feb. 25, three weeks before the yen's surge to a 12 1/2-year high against the dollar.

"In addition, the low capital expenditure estimate is very negative for the BOJ," Kumano said. If corporate profits keep worsening as well, "the central bank may be forced to cut its rates" in the first half of 2008, he said.

The survey said companies expect capital expenditure to drop by 9.4 percent in fiscal 2008 starting April as profits fell by 2.9 percent in 2007.

Companies may also halt aggressive recruitment campaigns and cut wages gradually, sending already weak domestic demand into a tailspin.

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