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Look at you! We will see if this is going to be another clusterfuck, to use one of Bill Maher's words.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/465838/holder_to_appoint_partial_torture_prosecutor

The Washington Post reports that Holder will appoint prosecutor John Durham to "examine nearly a dozen cases in which CIA interrogators and contractors may have violated anti-torture laws," a possibility that Newsweek first discussed in July. Accounts from both publications, however, predict a very narrow inquiry. The mandate, according to the new Post article, is only "to look at whether there is enough evidence to launch a full-scale criminal investigation of current and former CIA personnel who may have broken the law in their dealings with detainees."
In his official statement, Holder said he felt compelled to respond to a newly completed, internal Justice Department report on "so-called enhanced interrogation techniques" by ordering the review:
I have concluded that the information known to me warrants opening a preliminary review into whether federal laws were violated in connection with the interrogation of specific detainees at overseas locations. The Department regularly uses preliminary reviews to gather information to determine whether there is sufficient predication to warrant a full investigation of a matter. I want to emphasize that neither the opening of a preliminary review nor, if evidence warrants it, the commencement of a full investigation, means that charges will necessarily follow.
Several human rights groups immediately said Holder's approach falls fatally short, since it does not address the range of alleged counter-terror abuse and seems to foreclose accountability up the chain of command.
"An examination of a dozen cases will not bring the full scope of U.S. policies to light," said Virginia Sloan, president of the Constitution Project, in response to Monday's news. "A bipartisan commission is still needed to provide a comprehensive understanding of past deviations from the rule of law."
The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), which filed the first habeas cases for Guantanamo detainees, criticized the new inquiry's presumed targets. "Responsibility for the torture program cannot be laid at the feet of a few low-level operatives," read the Center's official statement on Monday. "Some agents in the field may have gone further than the limits so ghoulishly laid out by the lawyers who twisted the law to create legal cover for the program, but it is the lawyers and the officials who oversaw and approved the program who must be investigated." (Disclosure: I once worked at CCR.)
The ACLU, which successfully sued for the release of several torture-related documents, also offered a mixed assessment of the decision. "While this is a welcome first step, we are disappointed that Attorney General Holder still appears unwilling to conduct a full investigation and to prosecute any crimes that are uncovered," said executive director Anthony D. Romero. "A preliminary investigation absent a commitment to prosecute violations of the law is simply anemic. How much evidence of wrongdoing and violations of law is necessary before the attorney general commits to launching a full investigation?," he added.
MoveOn.org, which had joined efforts by netroots activists and progressive bloggers calling on Obama to appoint a special prosecutor with a wide latitude to investigate torture, said on Monday that while it "applaud[ed]" Holder's move, it was not enough. "The Department of Justice must not only investigate the CIA, but also those who ordered, approved and sanctioned the torture," said Justin Ruben, the group's Executive Director. "We need to make sure those all the way up the chain of command are held responsible for their actions."
It is hard to reach any concrete conclusions based on Holder's short statement. It is possible, for example, that a narrow "preliminary review" could still open the door to confronting the possibility of holding lawyers and policymakers accountable for knowingly constructing an illegal torture regime. However, if this inquiry is limited to a few contractors and junior personnel, it runs the risk of repeating the mistakes of Abu Ghraib, when the U.S. government blamed its policies on a few "bad apples" and further undermined the rule of law with selective prosecution.

Who is this JD?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/08/so_who_is_john_durham.html
 
every top democrat in congress and the senate will do everything possible to stymie this investigation for fear the same tactics will be used on them later.

it's a damned shame too because it only shows that we've lost total control of our elected representatives.
 
every top democrat in congress and the senate will do everything possible to stymie this investigation for fear the same tactics will be used on them later.

it's a damned shame too because it only shows that we've lost total control of our elected representatives.
Correct, I owe you some rep points!
 
January 11, 2009

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Whether to investigate is not Obama's call to make. In fact, were Obama to pressure Holder into not taking action in the face of evidence that violations of the law occurred he would in effect be politicizing law enforcement and the administration of justice.

Holder, as attorney general, is the nation's chief law enforcement officer and should make his own determinations as to what to investigate and prosecute pursuant to his own prosecutorial discretion not the political whims of the president or anyone else.
 
Whether to investigate is not Obama's call to make. In fact, were Obama to pressure Holder into not taking action in the face of evidence that violations of the law occurred he would in effect be politicizing law enforcement and the administration of justice.

Holder, as attorney general, is the nation's chief law enforcement officer and should make his own determinations as to what to investigate and prosecute pursuant to his own prosecutorial discretion not the political whims of the president or anyone else.
In other words, this is justice through our legal system and not through the Congress.

Holder would be remiss in his job if he didn't pursue this, then, correct?
 
Holder won't have a job if he don't obey the messiah....
Panetta better watch his ass too
 
No wonder Obama took a vacation at this time.
Bush took one with PDB that said we were going to be attacked, now that was really stupid, but came back for Shiavo!

I can only imagine how hard it is to be President, well, except for Bush, Cheney was actually President, so that is why Bush went on vacation so often, he really didn't have much to do that first four years!
 
How's the health care plan going? Cap & Trade? Obama's numbers? Robert Gibbs relations with the press? Time to trash another bogeyman, none of the others have worked this summer.
 
Whether to investigate is not Obama's call to make. In fact, were Obama to pressure Holder into not taking action in the face of evidence that violations of the law occurred he would in effect be politicizing law enforcement and the administration of justice.

Holder, as attorney general, is the nation's chief law enforcement officer and should make his own determinations as to what to investigate and prosecute pursuant to his own prosecutorial discretion not the political whims of the president or anyone else.
So Obama doesn't call the shots in his Administration?
 
How's the health care plan going? Cap & Trade? Obama's numbers? Robert Gibbs relations with the press? Time to trash another bogeyman, none of the others have worked this summer.
Strikes right to the crux, eh? Using Occam's Razor on politics...
 
Strikes right to the crux, eh? Using Occam's Razor on politics...


Totally. I mean, the obvious reason for Holder to announce this now is crass politics. I'm sure it's go nothing to do with a court ordering the CIA to release the inspector general report giving rise to the DOJ investigation to the public as a result of a lawsuit by the ACLU or anything.
 
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