The "Let's Talk About Dixie Being Southern" Thread

Our beloved board troll is running around the forums today, finding posts of mine, to which he is sprinkling little jabs at my being Southern, and a Son of the Confederacy. This has nothing to do with any topic I am discussing, or anyone else. It is merely his attempt to try and antagonize me by taking a steamy shit in my threads. He hopes I will be lured into responding to his idiocy, thus derailing the topic of my own thread, while he gets his jollies. I have chosen a different approach.

This thread is for the continuing discussion of me, where I am from, what I believe in, what I do or do not support. Any comment someone has, can be made here, and I will be happy to answer questions or clear up any misunderstandings. This way, we can get to the bottom of all the misconceptions and myths about my personality, in an honest bipartisan way, and preserve the integrity of other threads on the board. I don't want anyone here, especially new posters, thinking that my lack of response to these allegations in other threads, means acknowledgement or acceptance on my part because I simply chose not to respond.

Now.... I will give you a few preliminary FAQs:

Dixie is a racist! --Nothing could be further from the truth. I am 1/8 Native American, 1/8 Asian, and 1/16 black. My white European ancestry is even shady, I am part German, but as "Black Dutch" which is just a fancy name for "German Peasant Mutt" in my case. My lineage is made up of about a dozen or so, various races and cultures. I am like the 'ultimate' minority. It is difficult for me to imagine how I could ever be a true racist... what race am I going to favor, what race am I going to oppose? Furthermore, you can search these and other forums I've been on, high and low, you won't find racist comments from me.

Dixie is a KKK member! --Nope! Growing up in Alabama, I knew people who were members, I've seen the membership cards and all. I have never been to a rally, or cross burning, and have barely even had association with people who would be members of the Klan. You see, most of the people who are Klan members, are ignorant and trashy, and I just don't run in those circles. I'm not a judgmental person, but if I am friends with someone, and I find out they are involved in something like the Klan, it generally turns me off to the point we can't be friends.

Dixie wants to bring back slavery! --Nonsense. Slavery is one of the most despicable and deplorable chapters of our history. However, I don't ignorantly blame "The South" for slavery, because it existed in America for 85 years before the Civil War, while no one lifted a finger to change it. The US Supreme Court upheld it, northern politicians tolerated it as a necessary evil, and our Founding Fathers chose not to deal with it when they established our nation. It seems a bit disingenuous to cast all the blame for its existence on The South. It is patently ridiculous to conclude all southern people are pro-slavery now, or ever.

Dixie wishes the Confederates had won the war! --Not true. First and foremost, I wish the war had never been fought. I wish that Confederates losing the war hadn't meant that we abandon the concept of 'state's rights' and cede power and freedoms over to the central federal government, but slavery might have lasted into the next century if the war had not been lost by the Confederates. Therefore, if the war had to be fought and someone had to lose, I am happy it was lost by the Confederates. This doesn't change the fact that I am proud of my ancestors who fought and died in the war, under the Confederate flag. They never owned slaves, and weren't actually in much better shape, in many cases, the slave actually had a better life... they at least knew they would be fed and have a roof. During the Great Depression, my Grandmother picked cotton for a black sharecropper, and was grateful to him for giving her work. Those men fought the war because that was their homeland. They could have cared less about the issue of slavery, it was a matter of pride and honor, the homeland was being attacked.

Dixie's Rebel Flag and moniker means he is a racist! --Wrong. The moniker "Dixie" and the avatars are deliberately designed to reveal people who are bigoted and prejudiced in their views. If you will judge me by my nickname or avatar, what's to say you won't also judge me by my skin or how I look? Character is what is supposed to matter, and nicknames or avatars are superfluous. I am proud to be from the South, and proud of my ancestors who fought and died in the Civil War. I am a CW historian, and know a great deal about the history, both the written and unwritten history, regarding the circumstances of the day. It disturbs me that so many people are led to believe something totally inaccurate, due to false perceptions created. The 'victors' write the history books, so we have come to learn the CW was all about slavery, when that wasn't the whole story. Shockingly, some people even believe the CW was some sort of precursor to 1960's Civil Rights. We're supposed to accept that after the CW and the South was stripped of any and all political power, they somehow kept the abolitionists from establishing appropriate civil rights for black people. And for the next century, these same defeated people stood in the way of that progress.

Dixie hates brown people/gays! --Not true. I am a lover of people in general. I don't really 'hate' any particular kind of people, although I detest 'ignorant' people. Still, I do my best to try and educate them as much as I can. In the summertime, I generally get as brown as some of my black friends, we joke about it. Some of my dearest and closest friends are homosexual. I don't think we could maintain these life-long friendships if I hated gay people.

I hope these cleared up any misconceptions or myths about myself, and if anyone has any questions or wants me to elaborate on my personal beliefs, I will be happy to do so.
 
Dixie, you and I may disagree on plenty of topics, but we are both southerners. That means there are certain attributes applied to us regardless of the truth of the matter.

Its just easier to see all southerners as a cross between rabid rednecks and Andy Griffith.

Let'em dwell in their pseudo-reality.
 
Our beloved board troll is running around the forums today, finding posts of mine, to which he is sprinkling little jabs at my being Southern, and a Son of the Confederacy. This has nothing to do with any topic I am discussing, or anyone else. It is merely his attempt to try and antagonize me by taking a steamy shit in my threads. He hopes I will be lured into responding to his idiocy, thus derailing the topic of my own thread, while he gets his jollies. I have chosen a different approach.

This thread is for the continuing discussion of me, where I am from, what I believe in, what I do or do not support. Any comment someone has, can be made here, and I will be happy to answer questions or clear up any misunderstandings. This way, we can get to the bottom of all the misconceptions and myths about my personality, in an honest bipartisan way, and preserve the integrity of other threads on the board. I don't want anyone here, especially new posters, thinking that my lack of response to these allegations in other threads, means acknowledgement or acceptance on my part because I simply chose not to respond.

Now.... I will give you a few preliminary FAQs:

Dixie is a racist! --Nothing could be further from the truth. I am 1/8 Native American, 1/8 Asian, and 1/16 black. My white European ancestry is even shady, I am part German, but as "Black Dutch" which is just a fancy name for "German Peasant Mutt" in my case. My lineage is made up of about a dozen or so, various races and cultures. I am like the 'ultimate' minority. It is difficult for me to imagine how I could ever be a true racist... what race am I going to favor, what race am I going to oppose? Furthermore, you can search these and other forums I've been on, high and low, you won't find racist comments from me.

Dixie is a KKK member! --Nope! Growing up in Alabama, I knew people who were members, I've seen the membership cards and all. I have never been to a rally, or cross burning, and have barely even had association with people who would be members of the Klan. You see, most of the people who are Klan members, are ignorant and trashy, and I just don't run in those circles. I'm not a judgmental person, but if I am friends with someone, and I find out they are involved in something like the Klan, it generally turns me off to the point we can't be friends.

Dixie wants to bring back slavery! --Nonsense. Slavery is one of the most despicable and deplorable chapters of our history. However, I don't ignorantly blame "The South" for slavery, because it existed in America for 85 years before the Civil War, while no one lifted a finger to change it. The US Supreme Court upheld it, northern politicians tolerated it as a necessary evil, and our Founding Fathers chose not to deal with it when they established our nation. It seems a bit disingenuous to cast all the blame for its existence on The South. It is patently ridiculous to conclude all southern people are pro-slavery now, or ever.

Dixie wishes the Confederates had won the war! --Not true. First and foremost, I wish the war had never been fought. I wish that Confederates losing the war hadn't meant that we abandon the concept of 'state's rights' and cede power and freedoms over to the central federal government, but slavery might have lasted into the next century if the war had not been lost by the Confederates. Therefore, if the war had to be fought and someone had to lose, I am happy it was lost by the Confederates. This doesn't change the fact that I am proud of my ancestors who fought and died in the war, under the Confederate flag. They never owned slaves, and weren't actually in much better shape, in many cases, the slave actually had a better life... they at least knew they would be fed and have a roof. During the Great Depression, my Grandmother picked cotton for a black sharecropper, and was grateful to him for giving her work. Those men fought the war because that was their homeland. They could have cared less about the issue of slavery, it was a matter of pride and honor, the homeland was being attacked.

Dixie's Rebel Flag and moniker means he is a racist! --Wrong. The moniker "Dixie" and the avatars are deliberately designed to reveal people who are bigoted and prejudiced in their views. If you will judge me by my nickname or avatar, what's to say you won't also judge me by my skin or how I look? Character is what is supposed to matter, and nicknames or avatars are superfluous. I am proud to be from the South, and proud of my ancestors who fought and died in the Civil War. I am a CW historian, and know a great deal about the history, both the written and unwritten history, regarding the circumstances of the day. It disturbs me that so many people are led to believe something totally inaccurate, due to false perceptions created. The 'victors' write the history books, so we have come to learn the CW was all about slavery, when that wasn't the whole story. Shockingly, some people even believe the CW was some sort of precursor to 1960's Civil Rights. We're supposed to accept that after the CW and the South was stripped of any and all political power, they somehow kept the abolitionists from establishing appropriate civil rights for black people. And for the next century, these same defeated people stood in the way of that progress.

Dixie hates brown people/gays! --Not true. I am a lover of people in general. I don't really 'hate' any particular kind of people, although I detest 'ignorant' people. Still, I do my best to try and educate them as much as I can. In the summertime, I generally get as brown as some of my black friends, we joke about it. Some of my dearest and closest friends are homosexual. I don't think we could maintain these life-long friendships if I hated gay people.

I hope these cleared up any misconceptions or myths about myself, and if anyone has any questions or wants me to elaborate on my personal beliefs, I will be happy to do so.

Thanks Dixie. I wish you would start a blog. This was so interesting.
 
Dixie, you and I may disagree on plenty of topics, but we are both southerners. That means there are certain attributes applied to us regardless of the truth of the matter.

Its just easier to see all southerners as a cross between rabid rednecks and Andy Griffith.

Let'em dwell in their pseudo-reality.

It may be pseudo-reality, but I think it actually reveals a prejudiced bigotry most people tend to keep hidden. You have to know, if someone is capable in their mind, of casting judgement on you for "being southern," and not based on who you are as a person and your character, then they are probably flaming outright bigots in other areas. I've never met someone who said, "Yeah, I'm prejudiced/racist/bigoted and proud of it!" Even those who are devoutly racist and prejudiced, prop up and excuse their viewpoint... it's what makes them bigoted. I have found in life, there are two kinds of people; those who understand this, and those who are bigots.

My nickname and avatar are a clever trap for bigoted prejudiced people who judge others based on stereotypes. I love it when they reveal themselves. I really wish I could take credit for the idea, but it actually is inspired by a longtime friend of mine who happens to be black. I've known him since high school, where we were best friends and ran around together. Back then, he typically wore a rebel flag doo-rag, and of course, this caused a lot of black people to give him looks... so I asked him about it one day, and he told me... "I do it to reveal prejudice." He went on to explain how his purpose was to break down stereotypes, he too, had ancestors who fought in the Civil War and was proud of the heritage. "People don't know what to make of a black guy wearing a rebel flag," he said. "They have to get to know me for who I am, or make a prejudiced judgement based on stereotype, so I win either way."

He hated the stigma of the flag, and how society had come to recognize it as some sort of racist hate symbol, but his viewpoint on why we shouldn't try to remove it from public view, was quite interesting. "Out of sight, out of mind," he said. "If the flag isn't there, then what about the history surrounding it? Does that disappear as well?" He believed we shouldn't worry about the flag, it was people who were the problem, not a flag. Of course, I realize my friend was not a 'typical' black guy, he listened to country music! Still, he taught me a great deal about people and and how to recognize prejudice.

I have often said, I believe the "average white person" who grew up in Alabama through the 60s, 70s, and 80s, are probably less racially prejudice than any other segment of our society. We were bombarded with State history, year after year, through elementary, middle, and high school, about the state's important role in Civil Rights. I can't imagine Iowa students spent as much time on the subject in their state history classes. We've all grown up with the stigma of the 60s and Bull Connor, the marches and fire hoses, Selma to Montgomery, George Wallace in the schoolhouse door.... all of it, we learned about and studied in school, constantly reminded, every year for our entire experience. Most of us are about a generation removed from embarrassingly racist viewpoints and perceptions, which have made us uncomfortable at Thanksgiving dinner sometimes, or when we had friends over. But my generation, and the ones to follow, went to school with black people, learned to get along and associate with them on a daily basis, and become team mates, co-workers, classmates, and friends. The old school racists of the past are dead and gone, and mostly forgotten. Their viewpoints have evolved in younger generations, who now think in a much more multi-cultural way about people in general. We are who we are, no matter what color we are. Most of us can't remember segregated public facilities. Our elderly parents might, but the younger generations have grown up in a civil rights society, much different from the past.
 
Dixie, you fly the flags of the CSA and its battle flag. You are a scumbag, and you are unpatriotic. That's really all there is to it, other than that you are a gold mine for Legion Troll to tap into.

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Dixie, you fly the flags of the CSA and its battle flag. You are a scumbag, and you are unpatriotic. That's really all there is to it, other than that you are a gold mine for Legion Troll to tap into.

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No, I fly the flag of the former CSA, whom my great-great uncles fought and died under. It doesn't make me a scumbag or unpatriotic. What there really is to it, is you are a prejudiced closed-minded intolerant bigot, who makes judgments on people based on stereotypes.
 
No, I fly the flag of the former CSA, whom my great-great uncles fought and died under. It doesn't make me a scumbag or unpatriotic. What there really is to it, is you are a prejudiced closed-minded intolerant bigot, who makes judgments on people based on stereotypes.

Good, they faught for the wrong side. It's still the flag of the CSA, former or otherwise.

:usflag:
 
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