Former ACORN Director Gets $445 Mil From U.S. Treasury

Aoxomoxoa said:
Bravo regurgitated some hoary old chestnut about two people supposedly posing as a pimp and a pro and she showed that was a bullshit video that was post edited.
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No one was posing as ACORN employees and put the incriminating words in their mouths, did they.....?...and thats the point....

The editing had nothing to do with the employees advice they gave .....

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Aoxomoxoa said:
Darla also comprehensively destroyed your allegations though, so instead of whinging about race cards shouldn't you be either retracting or defending your previous post?
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Not in the least.....the ACORN employees said what they said.....and that is what the issue is really about....not the clothes O'Keefe and Giles were wearing at the time....

So the lead-in footage confused people and the reporting was inaccurate....big deal...
 
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We don't actually know what the employees said because the voice tapes were also heavily edited.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/acorn_report_finds_no_illegal_conduct.php

What we do know is that acorn did nothing illegal. They were shut down because Republicans don't want black people voting and Democrats are pussies who didn't even put up a fight. Just like with Shirley Sherrod.

And now what has been accomplished? The most underserved communities in America have even less help.

But Republicans don't care about the facts. Racists are overrepresented in their group. Bravo is stone-cold. Stone-cold. And the bottom line is the black demographic does not skew Republican and that is an understatement. This is all part of the effort do keep them away from the polls. I really hate the "where am i who am i" act, so save it.
 
See Republicans don't know what to do when you point out racism. When you point out sexism they can just go with it like they did on the thread about no women moderating a Presidential debate in 20 years. "Get back in the kitchen and get me a sandwich". This passes as high humor in rightie circles. Cause you know, one thing that will always be funny is slapping the bitches around. And there's nothing funnier than institutional sexism amirite? You bet i am!

But society now frowns upon racism. So they can't say "tell him to get back into the fields".

so they don't know whether to shit or wind their watches and some very interesting stuff happens...
 
Damocles said:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/06/former-acorn-director-gets-445-mil-from-u-s-treasury/

Former ACORN Director Gets $445 Mil From U.S. Treasury

The Obama Administration has given a former director at the scandal-plagued Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) nearly half a billion dollars to offer “struggling” Illinois homeowners mortgage assistance, a Judicial Watch investigation has found.

It means the ACORN official (Joe McGavin) will go from operating a corrupt leftist community group that’s banned by Congress from receiving federal funding to controlling over $445 million in U.S. taxpayer funds. The money is part of a $7.6 billion Treasury Department program to help the “unemployed or substantially underemployed” make their mortgage payments.

In this case, JW found that a subcomponent of the state-run Illinois Housing Development Authority, known as the Illinois Hardest Hit Program, received a generous $445,603,557 Treasury infusion. The Obama Administration established Hardest Hit in 2010 to provide targeted aid to families in states hit hardest by the economic and housing market downturn, according to its website.

In early 2011 McGavin was appointed as director of Hardest Hit. Before that he was director of counseling for ACORN Housing in Chicago and operations manager for a Chicago ACORN offshoot called Affordable Housing Centers of America (AHCOA). His strong ties to ACORN make him a suspect candidate to handle such a huge amount of taxpayer dollars.

More at link...
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Nope...no hateful, anti-Liberal slant from this article.

Guess now we have to label Damo a troll for posting ridiculous partisan bullshit.

Do we expect him to admit as much? Not really and not anytime soon.
 
bravo said:
two undercover, enterprising young people equipped with a hidden camera walked into an ACORN office, posing as an over-the-top pimp and prostitute wanting to establish a brothel dealing in enslaved children from other countries, ACORN employees offered them advice: how to get on welfare; how to cheat the tax system; how to get housing from the government; how to hide the criminal profit (a tin in your backyard, natch).

It happened....we watched it with out own eyes.....get over it....then fuck off


ACORN voter fraud.....
http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html
http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/344577/
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The fact is you watched heavily edited footage with numerous comments taken out of context...but do we expect a partisan parrot like yourself to admit as much?

Not a chance.
 
bravo said:
So the lead-in footage confused people and the reporting was inaccurate....big deal...
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One sentence says it all about what idiots like bravo will believe.

I mean, who CARES if the reporting was inaccurate...it still says what bravo WANTS it to say, and that's all that matters.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
One sentence says it all about what idiots like bravo will believe.

I mean, who CARES if the reporting was inaccurate...it still says what bravo WANTS it to say, and that's all that matters.
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I mean and no shame about it either. Just puts it right out there! I guess idiots are like that. They don't possess the rudimentary cunning required to polish it up a bit.
 
Darla said:
We don't actually know what the employees said because the voice tapes were also heavily edited.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/acorn_report_finds_no_illegal_conduct.php

What we do know is that acorn did nothing illegal. They were shut down because Republicans don't want black people voting and Democrats are pussies who didn't even put up a fight. Just like with Shirley Sherrod.

And now what has been accomplished? The most underserved communities in America have even less help.

But Republicans don't care about the facts. Racists are overrepresented in their group. Bravo is stone-cold. Stone-cold. And the bottom line is the black demographic does not skew Republican and that is an understatement. This is all part of the effort do keep them away from the polls. I really hate the "where am i who am i" act, so save it.
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So you think they were shut down because of the tape?

Or do you think it was the other things like convictions in Nevada for voter fraud etc...???


Yet another former ACORN employee was convicted of voter fraud last week. This brings the total number of convictions for former workers from the embattled group to at least 15 so far this year.

Kevin L. Clancy of Milwaukee pleaded guilty last week to participating “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” according to Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Clancy admitted to filing multiple voter registration applications for the same individuals and registering himself and other voter registration canvassers to vote multiple times while working on an ACORN voter drive.

Clancy received a 10-month prison term for his crime. Clancy’s sentence will begin when he completes another sentence he is currently serving for armed robbery.

“The integrity of elections is dependent upon citizens and officials insisting they be conducted lawfully,” Van Hollen said. “Wisconsin’s citizens should not have to wonder whether their vote has been negated or diminished by illegally cast ballots.”

So far 2010 has been a banner year for ACORN voter fraud prosecutions.

In Milwaukee, former ACORN worker Maria L. Miles, who worked with Clancy, pleaded guilty to “falsely procuring voter registration.” She will be sentenced next month.

Also in Milwaukee, Frank Edmund Walton was convicted of “falsely procuring voter registration.” According to Van Hollen, Walton solicited voter registrations while working for a group called the Community Voter Project. Court documents indicate that after committing the crime he became an ACORN employee. Walton will be sentenced in December.

In Washington state, ex-ACORN canvasser Kendra Lynn Thill was convicted of voter registration fraud and given a 12-month deferred sentence.

In Miami, Florida, former ACORN voter registration canvassers Maurice Childress, Kashawn John, Liltovia Rhodes, Carlos Torres, Evangeline Williams, Lilkevia Williams, and Richard Williams, were all convicted of “false swearing in an election.” All were sentenced to probation, community service, and forbidden to participate in political campaigns, according to the office of Katherine Fernandez Rundle, State Attorney for Miami-Dade County. In addition, Childress and Richard Williams were ordered to serve 72 days and 125 days in jail, respectively.

Arrest warrants were issued for three other former ACORN canvassers in the Miami area who are apparently still at large.

In Pennsylvania, former ACORN workers Alexis Givner, Mario Grisom, and Eric L. Jones, were convicted of voter registration fraud-related offenses. All three were sentenced to two years probation.

ACORN, the nonprofit shell corporation that runs the ACORN network, is still facing criminal prosecution in Nevada. Although ACORN filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy on Election Day to escape its debts, prosecutor Conrad Hafen, who is Nevada’s chief deputy state attorney general, previously said neither bankruptcy nor dissolution would “necessarily protect (ACORN) from prosecution” in Nevada.

The trial of ACORN for conspiracy to commit felony voter registration fraud was scheduled to begin Nov. 29, but ACORN lawyer Lisa Rasmussen had a scheduling conflict and the proceeding has been postponed. The trial will likely proceed in 2011. Hafen won’t be heading the prosecution’s team because he was recently elected a justice of the peace.
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*10 seconds for dung to attack the source rather than the actual data*
 
Darla said:
We don't actually know what the employees said because the voice tapes were also heavily edited.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/acorn_report_finds_no_illegal_conduct.php

What we do know is that acorn did nothing illegal. They were shut down because Republicans don't want black people voting and Democrats are pussies who didn't even put up a fight. Just like with Shirley Sherrod.

And now what has been accomplished? The most underserved communities in America have even less help.

But Republicans don't care about the facts. Racists are overrepresented in their group. Bravo is stone-cold. Stone-cold. And the bottom line is the black demographic does not skew Republican and that is an understatement. This is all part of the effort do keep them away from the polls. I really hate the "where am i who am i" act, so save it.
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So you think they were shut down because of the tape?

Or do you think it was the other things like convictions in Nevada for voter fraud etc...???


Yet another former ACORN employee was convicted of voter fraud last week. This brings the total number of convictions for former workers from the embattled group to at least 15 so far this year.

Kevin L. Clancy of Milwaukee pleaded guilty last week to participating “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” according to Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Clancy admitted to filing multiple voter registration applications for the same individuals and registering himself and other voter registration canvassers to vote multiple times while working on an ACORN voter drive.

Clancy received a 10-month prison term for his crime. Clancy’s sentence will begin when he completes another sentence he is currently serving for armed robbery.

“The integrity of elections is dependent upon citizens and officials insisting they be conducted lawfully,” Van Hollen said. “Wisconsin’s citizens should not have to wonder whether their vote has been negated or diminished by illegally cast ballots.”

So far 2010 has been a banner year for ACORN voter fraud prosecutions.

In Milwaukee, former ACORN worker Maria L. Miles, who worked with Clancy, pleaded guilty to “falsely procuring voter registration.” She will be sentenced next month.

Also in Milwaukee, Frank Edmund Walton was convicted of “falsely procuring voter registration.” According to Van Hollen, Walton solicited voter registrations while working for a group called the Community Voter Project. Court documents indicate that after committing the crime he became an ACORN employee. Walton will be sentenced in December.

In Washington state, ex-ACORN canvasser Kendra Lynn Thill was convicted of voter registration fraud and given a 12-month deferred sentence.

In Miami, Florida, former ACORN voter registration canvassers Maurice Childress, Kashawn John, Liltovia Rhodes, Carlos Torres, Evangeline Williams, Lilkevia Williams, and Richard Williams, were all convicted of “false swearing in an election.” All were sentenced to probation, community service, and forbidden to participate in political campaigns, according to the office of Katherine Fernandez Rundle, State Attorney for Miami-Dade County. In addition, Childress and Richard Williams were ordered to serve 72 days and 125 days in jail, respectively.

Arrest warrants were issued for three other former ACORN canvassers in the Miami area who are apparently still at large.

In Pennsylvania, former ACORN workers Alexis Givner, Mario Grisom, and Eric L. Jones, were convicted of voter registration fraud-related offenses. All three were sentenced to two years probation.

ACORN, the nonprofit shell corporation that runs the ACORN network, is still facing criminal prosecution in Nevada. Although ACORN filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy on Election Day to escape its debts, prosecutor Conrad Hafen, who is Nevada’s chief deputy state attorney general, previously said neither bankruptcy nor dissolution would “necessarily protect (ACORN) from prosecution” in Nevada.

The trial of ACORN for conspiracy to commit felony voter registration fraud was scheduled to begin Nov. 29, but ACORN lawyer Lisa Rasmussen had a scheduling conflict and the proceeding has been postponed. The trial will likely proceed in 2011. Hafen won’t be heading the prosecution’s team because he was recently elected a justice of the peace.
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http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/23/t...viction-makes-acorn’s-2010-total-at-least-15/

*10 seconds for dung to attack the source rather than the actual data*
 
Superfreak said:
So you think they were shut down because of the tape?

Or do you think it was the other things like convictions in Nevada for voter fraud etc...???




*10 seconds for dung to attack the source rather than the actual data*
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(1) Voter registration fraud and voter fraud are not the same thing.

(2) In order for me to attack the source, you'd have to post the source.

(3) ACORN was shut down when Congress defunded it. That act of Congress was precipitated by the O'Keefe bamboozle.
 
Superfreak said:
So you think they were shut down because of the tape?

Or do you think it was the other things like convictions in Nevada for voter fraud etc...???



http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/23/t...viction-makes-acorn’s-2010-total-at-least-15/

*10 seconds for dung to attack the source rather than the actual data*
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I don't think, I know. Perhaps you were in a coma during the entire O'Keefe debacle and when Congress defunded Acorn, but I was conscious and well.

Your article is wrong BTW - a handful of Acorn employees were guilty of voter registration fraud. That's not voter fraud. Voter fraud occurs when the voter actually attempts to vote.

Acorn hired many people to knock on doors and get signatures basically. As in ANY situation like that, a few bad apples signed phony names in order to get their "work" done and get back home.

Here is the important part - ACORN routinely red flagged registration names they thought were phony but THE LAW REQUIRES THEM TO SUBMIT THE NAMES ANYWAY.

ACORN never broke the law. They did the best that they could to weed out the overall rare cases of a few bad employees taking shortcuts and flagged the suspect names. There was zero voter fraud sorry.
 
Six minutes dung? You are slacking.

The source is on the post dung.

Tax payers should not be paying for corrupt organizations like ACORN. Period.
 
Darla said:
I don't think, I know. Perhaps you were in a coma during the entire O'Keefe debacle and when Congress defunded Acorn, but I was conscious and well.

Your article is wrong BTW - a handful of Acorn employees were guilty of voter registration fraud. That's not voter fraud. Voter fraud occurs when the voter actually attempts to vote.

Acorn hired many people to knock on doors and get signatures basically. As in ANY situation like that, a few bad apples signed phony names in order to get their "work" done and get back home.

Here is the important part - ACORN routinely red flagged registration names they thought were phony but THE LAW REQUIRES THEM TO SUBMIT THE NAMES ANYWAY.

ACORN never broke the law. They did the best that they could to weed out the overall rare cases of a few bad employees taking shortcuts and flagged the suspect names. There was zero voter fraud sorry.
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LOL... yeah, because we are all positive that with all the registration fraud that no voter fraud occurred. ACORN was defunded because time and again their employees were caught committing fraud. They were a dishonest group that should in no way have been funded with tax payer dollars.
 
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