How does it feel to now be a taxpayer?

Derp Derp said:
The year prior to the ACA 2/3rds of all bankruptcy filings were for medical/health emergencies. Health care is not a commodity to be traded to the highest bidder. No one should go broke because they got hurt or sick.
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yeah... everyone else should pay for them.
 
As people like Mutt have stated, the reason they want Universal care or at least the Obama care is because of the potential devastating costs of health care for those that get hit with the likes of Cancer. They often tell us about the number of bankruptcies due to that turn of bad luck.

Should we also provide life insurance for everyone? Mandate it? Is not a family equally devastated by a traffic fatality of the prime income earner?
 
Onceler said:
There was a study that put the figure at an extra $1,017 for the average US family to pay for healthcare for the uninsured.
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I believe the study noted that insurance supposedly costs that much because of the "free" care the uninsured obtained. Basically we pay it in insurance premiums.
 
Superfreak said:
As people like Mutt have stated, the reason they want Universal care or at least the Obama care is because of the potential devastating costs of health care for those that get hit with the likes of Cancer. They often tell us about the number of bankruptcies due to that turn of bad luck.

Should we also provide life insurance for everyone? Mandate it? Is not a family equally devastated by a traffic fatality of the prime income earner?
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If life insurance companies were required to pay a death benefit, even if the payee had no policy, then yes....life insurance should be mandated.

Are you in favor of repealing Raygun's EMTALA, in exchange for negating the mandate?
 
Superfreak said:
As people like Mutt have stated, the reason they want Universal care or at least the Obama care is because of the potential devastating costs of health care for those that get hit with the likes of Cancer. They often tell us about the number of bankruptcies due to that turn of bad luck.

Should we also provide life insurance for everyone? Mandate it? Is not a family equally devastated by a traffic fatality of the prime income earner?
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We just need to pass the "We Care About You Anti Poverty Act" where we simply mandate that people have money. If we do that then those families won't need to worry because they'll have to have the money or be taxed.
 
Superfreak said:
As people like Mutt have stated, the reason they want Universal care or at least the Obama care is because of the potential devastating costs of health care for those that get hit with the likes of Cancer. They often tell us about the number of bankruptcies due to that turn of bad luck.

Should we also provide life insurance for everyone? Mandate it? Is not a family equally devastated by a traffic fatality of the prime income earner?
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There isn't another advanced economy in the world that doesn't have some form of universal healthcare apart from the US.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
There isn't another advanced economy in the world that doesn't have some form of universal healthcare apart from the US.
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Sure, but they're not Free. They suffocate under the heavy manacles of health care access. Why do you think they are all trying to get here? By hook or by crook. Because they want our Freedom. The country with universal health care not absolutely desperate to get rid of it doesn't exist. This is why America is number one, dummy.
 
Onceler said:
That is correct. Not that I see a big difference.
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If this simply covered the "uninsured" and we paid it more directly I would agree. Instead they took direct action to make my insurance suck with huge deductibles, etc at the same time they took away HSAs...

All these waivers are reminiscent of the waivers granted to get around directive 10-289 in Atlas Shrugged. They seem to go to those who support the Pres. (Unions) while punish those who don't have "pull"...
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
There isn't another advanced economy in the world that doesn't have some form of universal healthcare apart from the US.
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Which doesn't make this particular law "good"... Simply stating something like that doesn't mean that this law itself was the right answer. Everybody agrees that we need some better solution than status quo, what they disagree with is the belief that this is the right answer.

The problem that I most have with this is that we squandered an opportunity to come up with the best solution and simply offered a mandate to some of the worst insurance I have seen. I have never had a deductible plan like that, even when I worked for a frickin' convenience store I had better insurance than what they are forcing everybody to buy.
 
Damocles said:
If this simply covered the "uninsured" and we paid it more directly I would agree. Instead they took direct action to make my insurance suck with huge deductibles, etc at the same time they took away HSAs...

All these waivers are reminiscent of the waivers granted to get around directive 10-289 in Atlas Shrugged. They seem to go to those who support the Pres. (Unions) while punish those who don't have "pull"...
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The waiver thing again? Jesus. And you coupled it with an Atlas Shrugged reference. Awesomesauce.
 
Althea said:
Not true. Wellpoint had a 30+% increase in Cal. long before Obamacare. The increases you now see are still due to the fact that there is no control over what insurers can charge.
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The increases we see now are desperate insurance companies realizing their gravy train is pulling into the station and getting the last few gouges in on the American people before Obamacare reigns them in.
 
Damocles said:
Are you a clone or can you come up with an idea that Onceler hasn't already posted?
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Great minds . . .

Can you come up with something that isn't gag-inducing? I mean, Atlas Shrugged references are OK for teenagers trying to discover themselves and their place in the world but not from a grown ass man.
 
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