Condi Rice for VP?

Dixie said:
Why do I keep hearing she is "pro-choice?" Is there some source for this? Because I have never heard that about Rice, and I can't imagine such a pro-lifer as Bush was, he would have her that high in his cabinet. It seems I recall her answering a question about it once in an interview, and she simply declined to express her personal view, said that was a private matter, but she respected the SOCTUS ruling in Roe. I don't know that I would call that "Pro-choice" really.
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Because I watched several interviews where she clearly states that she does not want abortion to be illegal.

Here is a video of one of them:

 
WinterBorn said:
I'd love to see a fiscally conservative, socially liberal candidate. That actually fits the standard of "Conservative" from when I started voting.
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And just where do you think the rightwing will find a fiscal conservative? I've never seen one. They talk all this crap but then spend more than any Democrat ever thought about. The only fiscal conservatives that we've had in the office of the President for the last 50 years have been President Barack Hussein Obama and President William Jefferson Clinton. Your father's repub party is certainly not the repub party of today or in any recent times. Chickenshit war hawks, deficit hawks and religious nuts are about all that's left of a once proud and responsible political entity.
 
Dixie said:
Why do I keep hearing she is "pro-choice?" Is there some source for this? Because I have never heard that about Rice, and I can't imagine such a pro-lifer as Bush was, he would have her that high in his cabinet. It seems I recall her answering a question about it once in an interview, and she simply declined to express her personal view, said that was a private matter, but she respected the SOCTUS ruling in Roe. I don't know that I would call that "Pro-choice" really.
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"Asked, “Are you pro-life? Are you pro-choice? What is your thought on abortion?”, Rice responded: “I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I’m a strong proponent of parental choice, of parental notification. I’m a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that’s where we should be. I’ve called myself at times mildly pro-choice."

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortion-position-of-condoleezza-rice-us-secretary-of-state
 
WinterBorn said:
"Asked, “Are you pro-life? Are you pro-choice? What is your thought on abortion?”, Rice responded: “I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I’m a strong proponent of parental choice, of parental notification. I’m a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that’s where we should be. I’ve called myself at times mildly pro-choice."

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortion-position-of-condoleezza-rice-us-secretary-of-state
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So there you have it. Interesting.
 
Rice is the best option for Mitt, she represents real progress for the Republican party.
 
West has basically destroyed any real chance at higher office for himself, he has been too much of a flame thrower.

Speaking as one of his constituents, I have met him several times and have to say he is a hell of a nice guy!
 
WinterBorn said:
"Asked, “Are you pro-life? Are you pro-choice? What is your thought on abortion?”, Rice responded: “I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I’m a strong proponent of parental choice, of parental notification. I’m a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that’s where we should be. I’ve called myself at times mildly pro-choice."
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Thank you, that is not staunchly pro-choice or pro-life... which is what I thought I recalled.

I don't think Rice is that far out of mainstream on this. In fact, I think this is a very smart and intelligent answer, and is very much in-line with what most Americans think, when it comes right down to it. I am pro-life, but I have often articulated her same point of view, that I feel we can reach some compromise together on this, and stop the late-term stuff, while keeping legality intact. Many want Roe v. Wade overturned, but realistically, that is just not going to happen.
 
WinterBorn said:
"Asked, “Are you pro-life? Are you pro-choice? What is your thought on abortion?”, Rice responded: “I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I’m a strong proponent of parental choice, of parental notification. I’m a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that’s where we should be. I’ve called myself at times mildly pro-choice."

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortion-position-of-condoleezza-rice-us-secretary-of-state
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I can live with that in a fiscal conservative in 2012.....this country needs to survive long enough to even HAVE a debate on abortion sometime in the future.....{and maybe you guys haven't noticed, but I'm sort of opposed to abortion}........
 
Damocles said:
My hope is they'll pick Allen West. That would be awesome to watch him pWn Biden in debates.
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Biden would piss himself.

It won't be West, he is too bombastic. There would be too much of a risk that he would say something to dominate headlines and take the spotlight off Romney... always pick a VP that won't out-shine you or overshadow you. When Ann hinted it might be a woman, my first thought was Michelle Bachman, because of the support base she had from the Tea Party, but I think he really is seriously considering Rice, and this is a 'trial balloon' to see what the public reaction is.

If not Rice, his 'safe' choice is Portman. That would ensure Ohio, but not sure it does much more.
 
Dixie said:
Biden would piss himself.

It won't be West, he is too bombastic. There would be too much of a risk that he would say something to dominate headlines and take the spotlight off Romney... always pick a VP that won't out-shine you or overshadow you. When Ann hinted it might be a woman, my first thought was Michelle Bachman, because of the support base she had from the Tea Party, but I think he really is seriously considering Rice, and this is a 'trial balloon' to see what the public reaction is.

If not Rice, his 'safe' choice is Portman. That would ensure Ohio, but not sure it does much more.
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there's also Susana Martinez.....
 
King of Owls said:
you don't need to excite the conservatives. romney is the borg, and he's assimilated all of them. Conservatives hate obama so much that any reservations they have about romney can be easily overcome. No diehard conservative in the south wants another 4 years of obama. That's the useful dynamic romney has going right now.

As such, rice is a terrible pick. She'll remind everyone of the bush administration and probably alienate a lot of swing voters.
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Well that and the approximately 25% of the population who are appaled that a nigger is in the White House.
 
Dixie said:
Really? You think a half-black Hawaiian/Kenyan who was raised in Indonesia, trumps a full-black Alabama woman who grew up in the segregated South as the daughter of a black minister, with most black people? I don't know that black people vote for people based on skin color, I certainly don't, but if they do... or if that is their "reason" for supporting Obama, I don't see how Condoleeza Rice couldn't 'impress' just as well. I'm telling you, if Obama loses the solidarity of the black vote, this thing is over. That is his largest support base, by far. He simply can't afford to lose much more than 10% of them, and still have a chance, in my opinion.

Now all of this is in the vacuum of race, ignoring what is happening in the world around us. If the economy remains as is, I don't think Obama will have enough support from ANY demographic to defeat Romney. Things are just too bad and not getting any better out there, and THAT has much more to do with who we elect than anything else, historically. In light of that fact, I do believe that Condi Rice could serve as an alternative role model for many disillusioned black youth, who supported Obama. Remember, we have 4 graduating classes from universities out there, with degrees in hand, who can't find jobs. That's a dynamic Obama didn't have in 2008.

This also completely silences the whole "racist white privilege" meme from the left as well... puts a great big SOCK right in the old kisser!

And on the issue of the Iraq War.... Karl Rove couldn't have planned anything better himself, than to have Democrats drag up Iraq again. NO ONE wants to re-debate Iraq... I'm tellin' ya! It's a dead and stinking horse that we all want to leave alone now, and focus on getting the wheels moving again in America. To make the political miscalculation of going back and debating the 'wisdom' of Iraq, would be a terrible mistake, in my opinion. I don't think 'swing' voters want to hear that... I don't think that is what they are sitting on the edge of their seats waiting to hear before they decide... just don't think that.
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Really? I think you seriously miscalculate that the records of those who put this country into a shithole isn't relevent. Grinds right. Rice would alienate swing voters.
 
Damocles said:
It would be interesting to have somebody who is pro-choice... Condi would be a very interesting choice IMO.
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So would Colin Powel but he has the same problem that Rice would have. Except that Powel did resign after his first term and he has his famous "Pottery Barn Rules" comment but still he was the one who did a major sales job on the run up to the immoral war in Iraq. That would be a problem.
 
Gatorman said:
And just where do you think the rightwing will find a fiscal conservative? I've never seen one. They talk all this crap but then spend more than any Democrat ever thought about. The only fiscal conservatives that we've had in the office of the President for the last 50 years have been President Barack Hussein Obama and President William Jefferson Clinton. Your father's repub party is certainly not the repub party of today or in any recent times. Chickenshit war hawks, deficit hawks and religious nuts are about all that's left of a once proud and responsible political entity.
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Yup. That's why I'm no longer a Republican.
 
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