Sally Ride

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What's sad is that Sally had to live 27 years in our society without sharing her love for another person with the world. When will our society ever be able to shrug off the hatred of homophobia and realize that love between two people, regardless of gender, is a beautiful thing?

Um, she could have come out decades ago and the vast majority would not have had a problem with it. She chose to keep it private. Respect that.

 

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As I put up on my fb page... far too young, but she apparently had pancreatic cancer and fought it for over 18 months. A true pioneer. Her work to try and get young people, especially young girls, interested in science and setting an example for all young women that it was ok to be brilliant and to play in a 'man's' field was inspirational.

She broke the glass ceiling with her launch in 83, followed by Resnick in 84 (who unfortunately was also on Challenger in 86 along with the school teacher Christa and five others).

I am sure it was the womens movement of the 80's and beyond that allowed Sally to earn her PhD and become an astronaut all by 1983. Right Darla?

“The women’s movement had already paved the way, I think, for my coming,” she said.

That's her quote, not mine.

 

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Um, she could have come out decades ago and the vast majority would not have had a problem with it. She chose to keep it private. Respect that.

You have no way of knowing that since you have no idea what her professional circle was like. Just more marching onward assured of your rightness.

 

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You have no way of knowing that since you have no idea what her professional circle was like. Just more marching onward assured of your rightness.

Just matching your little snipe in the OP. You couldn't honor her without trying to start a fight. Quite sad. Typical of today's feminist.

 

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Just matching your little snipe in the OP. You couldn't honor her without trying to start a fight. Quite sad. Typical of today's feminist.

 

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It's amazing that you have managed to divert this thread in any direction other than the OP's topic sentence. A sentence which infuriated you:

“The women’s movement had already paved the way, I think, for my coming,” she said.

Now why would this infuriate anyone and send them spiraling into denial? Why are you so invested in denying any good on the part of the women's movement? Why are you enraged that Doctor Ride, a pioneer, believed that the women's movement did her some good? The answer is plain and undeniable. I always knew you hated women and it's never hard to expose you frustrated goons.

Now before you diverted into yet another tirade, you made this claim:

Yep, the only reason she went into space was because of Betty Friedman, despite the fact that Valentina Tereshkova went into space in 1963 the same year The Feminine Mystique was published.

Sally Ride never mentioned Betty Friedan (You don't even know her name Cliffie). She spoke of the women's movement paving the way for her. She also did not say that the women's movement was the only reason she went into space. The women's movement, like the civil rights movement, can only level out the playing field to a certain degree (neither have to this day accomplished a completely level playing field). It opens opportunity. It does not make someone "go into space". That takes first of all, genius, which Doctor Ride possessed, a dream, and a lot of hard work. When you have all of that and are denied the opportunity to be a CEO or to be a doctor or to be a astronaut, then there is injustice. WHich are the conditions that existed before the second wave.

You also emphasized the year. American second wave feminism is widely held to have began with the JFK report one female inequality and the publication of The Feminine Mystique. Movements like that do not rise up overnight, there were of course, feminist activists working, struggling, writing, pamphleting, and advocating for years prior to 1961. And Russia is not America.

Simone de Beauvoir published The Second Sex in 1949, and the publication if of this masterpiece of feminist thinking is always marked as the beginning of the global second wave. So your dates are meaningless Claven.

Your attacks on her, which you no doubt got out of your intellectual bible, the Daily Male, are irrelevant to any of the above facts. As is Sartre's height, I hate to inform you. He was one of the father's of French Existentialism and a brilliant philosopher regardless of how tall he was or what the internet's Cliff Claven thinks of him.

BTW, when you study de Beauvoir and her work at the university level, how her sexual exploitation of her young students (they were teens, usually around 16 and 17, she was not a "pedophile" and the age of consent in France is 15) can be reconciled with her writings. It's a fascinating debate to have but not with a woman-hating grump who has a chip on his shoulder the size of Mt Rushmore.

That's Clavin not Claven. De Beauvoir wanted to remove the age of consent altogether and lobbied vociferously for that along with a number of other French intellectuals including Sartre. If somebody in the US had done something similar you would have never heard the end of it especially from the likes of you. That petition was signed in 1977 and I remember the furore it caused in the UK at the time.

 

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That's Clavin not Claven. De Beauvoir wanted to remove the age of consent altogether and lobbied vociferously for that along with a number of other French intellectuals including Sartre. If somebody in the US had done something similar you would have never heard the end of it especially from the likes of you. That petition was signed in 1977 and I remember the furore it caused in the UK at the time.

Cliff when you have nothing to say, say nothing.

 

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I studied at a University, Cliffie. Not a knitting circle. They allow us into the universities now. In fact, more women are graduating now than men. But I bet that's one thing you do know. Guys like you get real insecure over that.

And I took that out so I could write a longer post about The Second Sex later today. Which I will do.

In the meantime Clavin you shout and rant "get off my lawn you feminists!" at any woman who comes by. I always enjoy exposing another one.

Simone de Beauvoir is to the Left what Ayn Rand is to the Right, both vastly over rated and odious in equal measure!!

 

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Cliff when you have nothing to say, say nothing.

In other words, you cannot refute what I'm saying so ignore it instead.

 

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“The women’s movement had already paved the way, I think, for my coming,” she said.

That's her quote, not mine.

yeah... I know... and she joined NASA in 78... with a PhD in Physics. But I know, it was the womens movement of the 70's and 80's that did that for her... right?

 

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Cliff when you have nothing to say, say nothing.

It's never stopped you in the past!!

 

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In other words, you cannot refute what I'm saying so ignore it instead.

Nope. In other words I already knew that, you refuted nothing that I said, and no matter how much someone knows and writes about any topic you always find some little nitpick thing that you googled on wikipedia to post in order to pretend you know something they don't know.

You know nothing I don't know Claven. You look like the ass that you are on this thread and I am thrilled with the opportunity to show you up. You have no idea how long I've told people off board that you hate women. Thanks.

 

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yeah... I know... and she joined NASA in 78... with a PhD in Physics. But I know, it was the womens movement of the 70's and 80's that did that for her... right?

That's what she thought, that they "paved" the way for her. Do you want to argue with her through me? She's dead and I am not handy with a Ouija board? You seem very angry that Doctor Ride felt this way about the women's movement. I wonder why...

 

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Glad you have some, I would recommend you take a double dose.

 

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Simone de Beauvoir is to the Left what Ayn Rand is to the Right, both vastly over rated and odious in equal measure!!

You don't say?

 

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I am LMAO. At the same time I am fending off and making fools out of two enraged pompous sexists, I created and sent an Icontact newsletter ad to thousands of customers.

I do more before 10 am than most woman-hating fools do all day.

 

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That's what she thought, that they "paved" the way for her. Do you want to argue with her through me? She's dead and I am not handy with a Ouija board? You seem very angry that Doctor Ride felt this way about the women's movement. I wonder why...

LMAO... you seem quite f'in retarded. You want to try and politicize her death. Are you that bent out of shape? That warped in the head? Oh wait, you are a modern feminist, of course you are.

As I stated yesterday, the womens movement of the 1900's-1950's accomplished what was needed. You yourself stated the second wave started in '49. It was the nutjobs in the 60's that began the destruction of the title 'feminist'. You want to pretend that Sally was talking about the 1960's (and beyond) feminist movement. Show me where she says that is who she was referring to Darla.

 

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I am LMAO. At the same time I am fending off and making fools out of two enraged pompous sexists, I created and sent an Icontact newsletter ad to thousands of customers.

I do more before 10 am than most woman-hating fools do all day.

It helps that I don't have to furiously google wikepedia's take on every historical figure brought up.

 

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LMAO... you seem quite f'in retarded. You want to try and politicize her death. Are you that bent out of shape? That warped in the head? Oh wait, you are a modern feminist, of course you are.

I quoted a line from her obituary. I wonder why it got you so enraged?

 

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LMAO... you seem quite f'in retarded. You want to try and politicize her death. Are you that bent out of shape? That warped in the head? Oh wait, you are a modern feminist, of course you are.

As I stated yesterday, the womens movement of the 1900's-1950's accomplished what was needed. You yourself stated the second wave started in '49. It was the nutjobs in the 60's that began the destruction of the title 'feminist'. You want to pretend that Sally was talking about the 1960's (and beyond) feminist movement. Show me where she says that is who she was referring to Darla.

Nope. That is not what I stated but it's good to see you are studying my posts. Even though you are doing it in the hopes of finding something you can use to cover for your embarrassing hijinks of yesterday, I still bet you learn something!