Under Obama, the Democratic Party has moved further to the right since Reconstruction

[blackascoal]

At one time in our history it was republicans who fought for humanity, then it shifted to democrats who fought for humanity. But today, neither of them do. They only fight to win elections.

The Democratic Party has been slipping to the right since Clinton, but Obama has moved the democrats further to the right since the days of Reconstruction when republicans were the good guys.

Today's Democratic Party is pro-war and as callous about human life as they were during the days of slavery. Think Muslims as the slaves.

Today's Democratic Party supports NDAA .. which is far worse than the Patriot Act that many democrats where against when Bush was in office. Far removed from the Democratic Party that fough FOR civil liberties and AGAINST unnecssary government intrusion.

Today's Democratic Party supports the killing of American citizens without trial .. just because a president says to kill them. Light years from what the democratic stand would have been if a republican was in office.

Today's Democratic Party supports the murders of innocent children, women, and men just as callously as any fire-breathing hate-filled right-winger would. I guess they call them collateral damage to ease the spot where their conscience used to be.

Today's Democratic Party has little to nothing to say about how Wall Street buys republican politicians .. and they have just as little to say about bailouts and nobody going to jail for the frauds that the American people paid for with their homes, investments, and pensions.

But that's just the beginning. All signs point to Obama's 2nd term being even further to the right than his first.

War with Iran is almost inevitable. There is no telling how deep that rabbit hole will go, but one things for sure, democrats will fall in line like sheep..

Social Security will be cut .. there will be no talk of restoring the billions that have been stolen from the program. Election will be over, who needs old people?

And this will continue ..

For Romney to get to the right of Obama's foreign policy, he has to go all the way to Looneyville. Obama is to the right of George Bush on foreign policy.

I know, Obama supporters don't want to talk about it and republicans have nothing to grip about because it's what they would do.

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

Amen!!! Preach on!

The Obama supporters should be angry as hell that they tried to elect a liberal/progressive president and got what they got.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Well, since I am not a republican, I can respond.

Going to war with Iran is not in our cards. Now, if Israel chooses to, that is their business. We should no more tell Israel how to run its affairs than we should tell Iran.

That being said, it is a travesty that this President allowed attacks on US soil and has done nothing. Libya would be smoldering right now if it were up to me and that would mean women and children. Does that sound callous? Yes, but war is not a game and it is NEVER solve with diplomacy. These countries sense weakness from Obama and they keep poking and provoking knowing he will do nothing.

You say he is right wing, but he is nothing more than a punk. He has no foreign policy vision other than trying to do things to get re-elected.

As far as him being right wing, I guess to a socialist you would think that. But to someone like me who believes in the principles of our founding, he is the complete opposite. He is like every other totalitarian throughout history

 

[blackascoal]

Well, since I am not a republican, I can respond.

Going to war with Iran is not in our cards. Now, if Israel chooses to, that is their business. We should no more tell Israel how to run its affairs than we should tell Iran.

That being said, it is a travesty that this President allowed attacks on US soil and has done nothing. Libya would be smoldering right now if it were up to me and that would mean women and children. Does that sound callous? Yes, but war is not a game and it is NEVER solve with diplomacy. These countries sense weakness from Obama and they keep poking and provoking knowing he will do nothing.

You say he is right wing, but he is nothing more than a punk. He has no foreign policy vision other than trying to do things to get re-elected.

As far as him being right wing, I guess to a socialist you would think that. But to someone like me who believes in the principles of our founding, he is the complete opposite. He is like every other totalitarian throughout history

Read my post carefully. I never say that Obama is a right-winger. Obama is a corporatist .. that doesn't have a wing.

As far as you smoking Libya .. you're a right-winger .. you make my point.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Read my post carefully. I never say that Obama is a right-winger. Obama is a corporatist .. that doesn't have a wing.

As far as you smoking Libya .. you're a right-winger .. you make my point.

What do you think we should do when we are attacked? Turn the other cheek?

Personally, I wouldn't have embassies. We can skype with the savages or send them an email. No need to waste the money

 

[apple0154]

At one time in our history it was republicans who fought for humanity, then it shifted to democrats who fought for humanity. But today, neither of them do. They only fight to win elections.

The Democratic Party has been slipping to the right since Clinton, but Obama has moved the democrats further to the right since the days of Reconstruction when republicans were the good guys.

Today's Democratic Party is pro-war and as callous about human life as they were during the days of slavery. Think Muslims as the slaves.

Today's Democratic Party supports NDAA .. which is far worse than the Patriot Act that many democrats where against when Bush was in office. Far removed from the Democratic Party that fough FOR civil liberties and AGAINST unnecssary government intrusion.

Today's Democratic Party supports the killing of American citizens without trial .. just because a president says to kill them. Light years from what the democratic stand would have been if a republican was in office.

Today's Democratic Party supports the murders of innocent children, women, and men just as callously as any fire-breathing hate-filled right-winger would. I guess they call them collateral damage to ease the spot where their conscience used to be.

Today's Democratic Party has little to nothing to say about how Wall Street buys republican politicians .. and they have just as little to say about bailouts and nobody going to jail for the frauds that the American people paid for with their homes, investments, and pensions.

But that's just the beginning. All signs point to Obama's 2nd term being even further to the right than his first.

War with Iran is almost inevitable. There is no telling how deep that rabbit hole will go, but one things for sure, democrats will fall in line like sheep..

Social Security will be cut .. there will be no talk of restoring the billions that have been stolen from the program. Election will be over, who needs old people?

And this will continue ..

For Romney to get to the right of Obama's foreign policy, he has to go all the way to Looneyville. Obama is to the right of George Bush on foreign policy.

I know, Obama supporters don't want to talk about it and republicans have nothing to grip about because it's what they would do.

Did someone drop some "downers" in your drink?

Did you hear Clinton speak at the Convention? ObamaCare is helping a lot of people and will help a lot more as additional programs come on-line. His plan keeps Medicare and Medicaid solvent till 2024 rather the it running out of funds in 2016. Then there's student loans.

Obama has done a lot for the people. Much more than the right wing who fight against such initiatives. As for war with Iran I doubt it. Obama is also winding down wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The troops are slowly coming home.

The Repubs criticize everything he does so if he is going to win a second term he has to pick his fights carefully. It's better to win slowly than not at all. Also, he won't have to consider another term when he's elected this time so I'm sure he will push a lot more.

You have to take into consideration the lies with which the Repubs have brainwashed the people. Just consider ObamaCare and death panels. As Clinton made clear Obama is not raiding Medicare but that's the lie Repubs have spread.

Let Obama finish his job. He's only half done.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Did someone drop some "downers" in your drink?

Did you hear Clinton speak at the Convention? ObamaCare is helping a lot of people and will help a lot more as additional programs come on-line. His plan keeps Medicare and Medicaid solvent till 2024 rather the it running out of funds in 2016. Then there's student loans.

Obama has done a lot for the people. Much more than the right wing who fight against such initiatives. As for war with Iran I doubt it. Obama is also winding down wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The troops are slowly coming home.

The Repubs criticize everything he does so if he is going to win a second term he has to pick his fights carefully. It's better to win slowly than not at all. Also, he won't have to consider another term when he's elected this time so I'm sure he will push a lot more.

You have to take into consideration the lies with which the Repubs have brainwashed the people. Just consider ObamaCare and death panels. As Clinton made clear Obama is not raiding Medicare but that's the lie Repubs have spread.

Let Obama finish his job. He's only half done.

So the white guy had to bail out the black guy?

 

[apple0154]

So the white guy had to bail out the black guy?

The white guy had to get the truth out there. Sometimes people listen to different speakers when they talk.

 

[cawacko]

Did someone drop some "downers" in your drink?

Did you hear Clinton speak at the Convention? ObamaCare is helping a lot of people and will help a lot more as additional programs come on-line. His plan keeps Medicare and Medicaid solvent till 2024 rather the it running out of funds in 2016. Then there's student loans.

Obama has done a lot for the people. Much more than the right wing who fight against such initiatives. As for war with Iran I doubt it. Obama is also winding down wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The troops are slowly coming home.

The Repubs criticize everything he does so if he is going to win a second term he has to pick his fights carefully. It's better to win slowly than not at all. Also, he won't have to consider another term when he's elected this time so I'm sure he will push a lot more.

You have to take into consideration the lies with which the Repubs have brainwashed the people. Just consider ObamaCare and death panels. As Clinton made clear Obama is not raiding Medicare but that's the lie Repubs have spread.

Let Obama finish his job. He's only half done.

LOL! "Did you hear what Clinton said..." He's a lying politician just like Obama is just like Romney is. Is Clinton to be held as some gold standard that is above reproach?

At least bac has principles that don't change based on the letter next to the politicians name.

 

[Socrtease]

At one time in our history it was republicans who fought for humanity, then it shifted to democrats who fought for humanity. But today, neither of them do. They only fight to win elections.

The Democratic Party has been slipping to the right since Clinton, but Obama has moved the democrats further to the right since the days of Reconstruction when republicans were the good guys.

Today's Democratic Party is pro-war and as callous about human life as they were during the days of slavery. Think Muslims as the slaves.

Today's Democratic Party supports NDAA .. which is far worse than the Patriot Act that many democrats where against when Bush was in office. Far removed from the Democratic Party that fough FOR civil liberties and AGAINST unnecssary government intrusion.

Today's Democratic Party supports the killing of American citizens without trial .. just because a president says to kill them. Light years from what the democratic stand would have been if a republican was in office.

Today's Democratic Party supports the murders of innocent children, women, and men just as callously as any fire-breathing hate-filled right-winger would. I guess they call them collateral damage to ease the spot where their conscience used to be.

Today's Democratic Party has little to nothing to say about how Wall Street buys republican politicians .. and they have just as little to say about bailouts and nobody going to jail for the frauds that the American people paid for with their homes, investments, and pensions.

But that's just the beginning. All signs point to Obama's 2nd term being even further to the right than his first.

War with Iran is almost inevitable. There is no telling how deep that rabbit hole will go, but one things for sure, democrats will fall in line like sheep..

Social Security will be cut .. there will be no talk of restoring the billions that have been stolen from the program. Election will be over, who needs old people?

And this will continue ..

For Romney to get to the right of Obama's foreign policy, he has to go all the way to Looneyville. Obama is to the right of George Bush on foreign policy.

I know, Obama supporters don't want to talk about it and republicans have nothing to grip about because it's what they would do.

Be Libertarian with me just one time BAC.

 

[apple0154]

LOL! "Did you hear what Clinton said..." He's a lying politician just like Obama is just like Romney is. Is Clinton to be held as some gold standard that is above reproach?

At least bac has principles that don't change based on the letter next to the politicians name.

What did Clinton say that was untruthful? It's one thing to be against a policy and quite another for people to lie about it as the Rupubs have done. Kids up to 26 now have insurance on their parents. People with pre-existing conditions are covered. Where are the so-called death panels?

I will say Ryan and maybe one other Repub is finally coming clean. Romney's surreptitiously recorded meeting sheds some light on things. And then there's a guy or two the Repubs are trying to distance themselves from. The truth is finally coming out. If their policies are so great why lie and try to cover them up? Why don't they come right out with it?

Well, we know why, don't we? Rather than tell the people what they plan they attack Obama. Rather than tell the people they don't give a damn about them they lie and distort the Dem message. Sneaky liars. That's the Repub principal.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

What did Clinton say that was untruthful? It's one thing to be against a policy and quite another for people to lie about it as the Rupubs have done. Kids up to 26 now have insurance on their parents. People with pre-existing conditions are covered. Where are the so-called death panels?

I will say Ryan and maybe one other Repub is finally coming clean. Romney's surreptitiously recorded meeting sheds some light on things. And then there's a guy or two the Repubs are trying to distance themselves from. The truth is finally coming out. If their policies are so great why lie and try to cover them up? Why don't they come right out with it?

Well, we know why, don't we? Rather than tell the people what they plan they attack Obama. Rather than tell the people they don't give a damn about them they lie and distort the Dem message. Sneaky liars. That's the Repub principal.

Why do you have this need for the government to care about you?

 

[cawacko]

What did Clinton say that was untruthful? It's one thing to be against a policy and quite another for people to lie about it as the Rupubs have done. Kids up to 26 now have insurance on their parents. People with pre-existing conditions are covered. Where are the so-called death panels?

I will say Ryan and maybe one other Repub is finally coming clean. Romney's surreptitiously recorded meeting sheds some light on things. And then there's a guy or two the Repubs are trying to distance themselves from. The truth is finally coming out. If their policies are so great why lie and try to cover them up? Why don't they come right out with it?

Well, we know why, don't we? Rather than tell the people what they plan they attack Obama. Rather than tell the people they don't give a damn about them they lie and distort the Dem message. Sneaky liars. That's the Repub principal.

Thank you Mr. DNC spokesman. It's a big world out there when you finally decide to take the partisan blinders off.

 

[cawacko]

bac, I thought of you when I saw this Politico headline with Ralph Nader calling Obama a war criminal. Now there were people who attacked Bush from the right just as there are people who attack Obama from left. While it's easy for partisan Republicans and Democrats to dismiss each other I often find it interesting to hear complaints when they come from the same "side".

I'm not posting this because I believe Nader is right I just think it adds a different dynamic to the discussion. Then again if you agree with Nader bac maybe apple will call you a "downer" again because you know, Obama can do no wrong.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81649.html

 

[RockX]

[h=2]Under Obama, the Democratic Party has moved further to the right since Reconstruction[/h]
Next thing you know he is going to make minorites get off welfare, ban homosexuality, and ship all illegals out of USA.

 

[blackascoal]

Did someone drop some "downers" in your drink?

Did you hear Clinton speak at the Convention? ObamaCare is helping a lot of people and will help a lot more as additional programs come on-line. His plan keeps Medicare and Medicaid solvent till 2024 rather the it running out of funds in 2016. Then there's student loans.

Obama has done a lot for the people. Much more than the right wing who fight against such initiatives. As for war with Iran I doubt it. Obama is also winding down wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The troops are slowly coming home.

The Repubs criticize everything he does so if he is going to win a second term he has to pick his fights carefully. It's better to win slowly than not at all. Also, he won't have to consider another term when he's elected this time so I'm sure he will push a lot more.

You have to take into consideration the lies with which the Repubs have brainwashed the people. Just consider ObamaCare and death panels. As Clinton made clear Obama is not raiding Medicare but that's the lie Repubs have spread.

Let Obama finish his job. He's only half done.

Much respect for you Apple, but the point isn't the half-measures of Obamacare .. nor is it about republicans at all. The point here is the direction of the Democratic Party .. and the greater point is the need for a party and politicians who do not support needless for-profit wars, killing American citizens without trial, and who do not support the NDAA.

 

[blackascoal]

bac, I thought of you when I saw this Politico headline with Ralph Nader calling Obama a war criminal. Now there were people who attacked Bush from the right just as there are people who attack Obama from left. While it's easy for partisan Republicans and Democrats to dismiss each other I often find it interesting to hear complaints when they come from the same "side".

I'm not posting this because I believe Nader is right I just think it adds a different dynamic to the discussion. Then again if you agree with Nader bac maybe apple will call you a "downer" again because you know, Obama can do no wrong.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81649.html

I respect Apple's thoughts just as I respect yours good brother. But from my perspective all partisans get played. The two-party system exists to keep partisans voting against their own best interests. All you need to keep Americans dumbed-down is to play one side against the other. Make the other fuy the enemy, not the system that makes Americans dumb and powerless.

On the republican side, the Tea Party has got to be the absolute most moronic gaggle of really dumb people ever gathered. But that's a different story ..

 

[blackascoal]

Be Libertarian with me just one time BAC.

:0) Much love for you brother .. but there is no such thing as a Laissez-faire economy .. and I'm a socialist. I believe in the oneness of life.

That being said, there are may parallels with libertarian thought and what I believe.

 

[Haiku]

Get the money out of our politics and the system will right itself but that isn't going to happen until people realize they're being played and used. It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Mark Twain said that...nothing has changed. You and I both know where this is going, several others are aware of it as well. We have to try to unite but so far the most anger being expressed in America is about football. People in other countries are uniting around real issues that impact them all...not here...I'm feeling pessimistic today.

Even if Obama wins, and he will, and he's given a real majority in both houses he will cut benefits and continue to attack things like public education. He is as much a creature of the system as anyone on the right or the Teabagger morons. I don't need to list all the ways we have been undermined in this country and by whom because you already know. This has been 40+ years in the making and many who are coming up behind us aren't informed enough to recognize what's happening.

Enough...as I said, I'm feeling pessimistic today.

 

[apple0154]

Why do you have this need for the government to care about you?

The same reason I have a need for a boss to care about me and the guy who tests the swimming pool water at the local Y and the chef in the restaurant. These are people in charge of the places I go. They see the big picture.