Official Debate Thread Round III

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Mott the Hoople said:
LOL I think the debate was fairly even. An incumbant President usually has the advantage in foreign policy....W being an exception. Obama had the best two zingers of the night "The 80's have called, they want their foreign policy back" and "We have these things called aircraft carriers and submarines and we also have less horses and bayonets"
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how odd....I was thinking those were his two biggest gaffes.....
 
Poor Romney no mates. Desperate for a friend, wears tie of British design for final debate before ignominy. ( IgnoRominy?)
 
PostmodernProphet said:
you might want to bring yourself up to date......Hoekstra has not been a Congressman at any time during the Obama administration......
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I think it is against the rules to alter someone elses posts, isn't it?
I did not write that, I have no idea what a Hoekstra is. Is it some sort of foreign dish, a type of hat? I don't know.

Edit: OK I found it. it was in a cut and paste. However I still have no idea who or what he is.

Like to explain.... without your usual stupidity?
 
Q _ Q said:
they are basically tied on able to be commander in chief, they are tied on likeability, and there are only 2 weeks left in the campaign. And on top of it all, americans don't care about foreign policy as a electoral issue in comparison to the economy, jobs, and taxes.
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You are putting way too much stock into a survey that draws nice neat little imaginary lines between issues. Most people realize that those imaginary lines do not exist. How we deal with China, and Iran will have a huge impact on our economy. Bush's spending on wars is a big part of our current crisis.

My comments are on substance and how I think it will affect the campaigns. I have no idea how your poll was compiled or conducted but are you quite sure that Ron Paul did not win the debate? Honestly, the way most of those polls are conducted make them quite useless for any sort of analyses. Without a link I will assume it is garbage.
 
Dixie said:
The same reason most mom and pop businesses in a given town "hates" Walmart. When a Republican is president, it generally means huge economic growth and prosperity for the US, which in turn, means the US gets a bigger piece of the worldwide economic pie... other countries want their usual portion of pie, therefore, they support the non-republican candidate.

The thing you should ask yourself is, why in the living fuck would we give two shits what other countries think or who they support?
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What are you a "wealth is static" socialist now. Not even the socialists believe that anymore.

When the US does well it benefits all nations. You are just looking for some sort of rationalization for why everyone does not agree with your views and once again you settle on some paranoid nonsense. Your xenophobia is not nearly as popular as you think it is. Many Americans were glad to no longer have a President that was a complete embarassment on foreign policy.
 
On another Website I told Damo that Romney would NEVER condemn Obama's use of drones, or the numbers of civilians killed by them. Romney wants the same power for himself.
 
Dixie said:
Not according to Real Clear Politics, which is the Liberals "preferred" choice in polling data.

Obama trails Romney, who is trending upward over the past week. Where have you been?
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I don't care what you think liberals think. RCP is suspect because they give pollsters like Gravis Marketing (which I already showed was nothing but a joke with biased and questionable managment) an even weight with actual polling agencies. But even there Romney is behind where it matters, in electoral votes. The popular vote is important to pinheads and partisan hacks trying to influence pinheads.
 
Dixie said:
I notice you didn't bother to specify what his comments were and why they were "just nuts" and instead, just interjected your opinion without debate on that subject. Guess what, BOZO, the country doesn't all think and act like you, and doesn't share your fucked up opinion the majority of the time. So you're probably just flat out wrong, as usual... but we can't confirm that because you didn't bother to specify what you thought was nuts.
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I mentioned them before. His call for an indictment of Ahmadinejad and for having China declared as a currency manipulator on his first day in office. Both of those positions are crazy and would be disasterous. I doubt he really means it. I hope that they are discussed more, because it is just insane and we don't need anymore little boys playing Cowboy in the oval office.

Your own party does not think like you. Romney is doing his best to run away from your kind and he did it again last night. Benghazi is now an issue he will avoid when appealing to the middle. Who was it that called that immediately following the last debate? You are just a bitter old fool who probably still does not understand why Trump is considered a joke and Santorum stinks to most people.
 
TheRocketSurgeon said:
What are you a "wealth is static" socialist now. Not even the socialists believe that anymore.

When the US does well it benefits all nations. You are just looking for some sort of rationalization for why everyone does not agree with your views and once again you settle on some paranoid nonsense. Your xenophobia is not nearly as popular as you think it is. Many Americans were glad to no longer have a President that was a complete embarassment on foreign policy.
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Amen to that but I don't think anyone honestly thinks Mitt Romney is anywhere as close to as inept on foreign policy as the shrub was. Having said that who the hell in modern times has come even remotely close to being as bad on foreing policy as the Shrub? Hell not even Nixon was as bad.

I think Grind does have a germ of truth in his comments. The average voter doesn't give a shit about foreign policy but hell the average voters probably believes where they are is the cultural center of the universe. To your point however, many Americans learned just how god damned important foreign policy is after the disaster that was W. Romney has made a significant error in utilizing Bush era neocons as his foreing policy advisors.
 
Well the debates are over and I honestly think that these were the best series of Presidential debates in my life time. I really did enjoy them. The polling is showing that Obama won last nights debate fairly decisively but Grind does have a point in that most voters don't care about foreign policy, which is dumb, but true non the less. I think at most Obama might get a meager bump in his polling after this performance but the way things are currently trending, a meager bump could be decisive.
 
that and his fiscal policies are the same as shrubby too.

well at least the ones he was willing to spout while in one of the "quiet rooms" he talked about
 
Mott the Hoople said:
That may be true Grind but that's a shame and it shows a lack of understanding that implementing foreign policy is a Presidents most important job. Look at what an unmittigated disaster George W. Bush was because of his incompetence at foreign policy. Due to it not only did over 100,000 innocent people die but it also accounts directly or indirectly for more than half of our national debt.
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That is pure nonsense. The national debt is well over $16T, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars might make up $1T at most. Obama's 'stimulus' makes up about the same amount.

How are the innocent people doing under Obama?
 
Dixie said:
Not according to your favorite source, RealClearPolitics.com!
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Actually RCP has Obama ahead by 281 to 257 and 538 (which I think is superior to RCP) has Obama ahead 290.8 to 247.2. Obama currently has more routes to victory that Romney but one thing is clear. The great Buckeye State will be pivotal in this election. :)
 
Damocles said:
The trend is toward Romney at the moment. I agree it is good, but the movement in the polls today was in Romney's direction. I didn't see anything at all tonight that will change that trend. Romney didn't let them draw him into something foolish and was playing a defense that worked for the Lutz focus group and for many.

If what I saw is right, I'm very happy with the result of tonight's debate.
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Not true. Romney recieved a significant bump after the first debatte but the trend lines have been gradually trending in Obama's direction.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
 
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