GOP's Benghazi Smoking Gun Goes Up in Smoke

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Does America really want these idiots in charge of the military? Is it really preferrable to rush in to action and put more people in harm's way?

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/benghazi-libya-state-emails


There's only one problem—well, actually, there are many, but one big one: The email appears to have been incorrect. Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi, the group suspected of attacking the consulate, never claimed responsibility for the assault. In fact, according to Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who monitors jihadist activity online, Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi didn't post about the attack on its Facebook or Twitter page until September 12, the day after the attack. They expressed their approval of the incident, but they didn't take credit; they did imply members of the group might have been involved, according to Zelin, stating, "Katibat Ansar al-Sharia [in Benghazi] as a military did not participate formally/officially and not by direct orders." The statement also justifies the attack by implicitly alluding to the anti-Islam video linked to unrest in other parts of the Middle East, saying, "We commend the Libyan Muslim people in Benghazi [that were] against the attack on the [Muslim] Prophet [Muhammad]."

"It is possible staffers were mistaken in the heat of the moment," wrote Zelin in an email to Mother Jones. "Not only was there no statement from ASB until the following morning, but it did not claim responsibility." (Zelin provided Mother Jones with screenshots of AAS's Twitter feed and Facebook page, which he also provided to CNN. It's possible the posts could have been deleted, but there's no way to prove that.)

Even if the State Department email had been accurate, conservatives pounced on it eagerly without underlying corroboration, thereby providing a pretty good example of how complicated intelligence analysis can be and why it's a bad idea to simply jump on a piece of information that fits your preconceived biases. The email was just one piece of information gathered in the aftermath of the attack. While the White House's initial explanation that the attack had begun as a protest turned out to be wrong, the email itself doesn't bear on two of the major remaining questions: what role the video played and whether the attack was planned or spontaneous.

You'd think that this would be obvious, but in the future it's a good idea to remember that just because someone posts something on Facebook, that doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Even better: Just because someone said someone posted something on Facebook doesn't mean it's true. Even if you really, really want it to be.
 
You'd better check up on the latest news and timeline of events......Obama has blood on his hands.....bigtime.

I notice Blabo failed to provide any factual evidence of the veracity of his assertion.

Poor Blabo.
 
That has what to do with the point of this article? Oh, you have a new smoking gun and so you are going to abandon the information that failed you before? I see.


Your article had no point....

Obama was meeting with his clowns at 1 AM Libya time, at the height of fighting at the Annex.....refused to sent in any aircraft or C130 gunships to help
the men under attack ....its a long story that I'm not gonna go through here.....its on the news all day in very good detail.
 
Still not interested in watching what excites you chicken heads.

So are the talking points now finished with the claim that there was a cover up or that the controversy is about "falsely claiming" that the video was involved? Now you are just second guessing the tactics?
 
Your article had no point....

Obama was meeting with his clowns at 1 AM Libya time, at the height of fighting at the Annex.....refused to sent in any aircraft or C130 gunships to help
the men under attack ....its a long story that I'm not gonna go through here.....its on the news all day in very good detail.

Of course, it had a point. The point was that you fools falsely jumped on the emails in hopes of proving there was a coverup. You posted several threads about it and then whined for a response.

But I guess there is some new angle that allows you to pretend to actually care about anything but being little partisan tools.

I thought he was planning his trip to Vegas the whole time it was going on.
 
brava says...

Forget about the lies and disinformation we were spreading yesterday. What about the lies and disinformation we are spreading today?
 
Still not interested in watching what excites you chicken heads.

So are the talking points now finished with the claim that there was a cover up or that the controversy is about "falsely claiming" that the video was involved? Now you are just second guessing the tactics?

The first email, timed at 4:05 p.m. Washington time - or 10:05 p.m. Benghazi time,(9/11/2012)

A second email, headed "Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi" and timed 4:54 p.m. Washington time...10:54 p.m. Benghazi time

A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack."

You figure out the time and date in Benghazi at 6:07 Benghazi time....
 
The first email, timed at 4:05 p.m. Washington time - or 10:05 p.m. Benghazi time,(9/11/2012)

A second email, headed "Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi" and timed 4:54 p.m. Washington time...10:54 p.m. Benghazi time

A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack."

You figure out the time and date in Benghazi at 6:07 Benghazi time....


What did the second email say?
 
Your article had no point....

Obama was meeting with his clowns at 1 AM Libya time, at the height of fighting at the Annex.....refused to sent in any aircraft or C130 gunships to help
the men under attack ....its a long story that I'm not gonna go through here.....its on the news all day in very good detail.


Oh yeah?

Then why wouldn't any of the "sources" for Faux News go on the record?

You can always tell when Faux and the Righties are getting desperate...when they trot out the tired old "sources claim" line in articles that support their conspiracy theories.
 
"People on the ground"....and righties take their word for it, and as long as their "word" makes something look bad for Obama, no proof is needed.
 
The first email, timed at 4:05 p.m. Washington time - or 10:05 p.m. Benghazi time,(9/11/2012)

A second email, headed "Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi" and timed 4:54 p.m. Washington time...10:54 p.m. Benghazi time

A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack."

You figure out the time and date in Benghazi at 6:07 Benghazi time....

WTF is your point? Are you having trouble with time zone math?
 
WTF is your point? Are you having trouble with time zone math?

The third email is at 6.07 pm Washington time 9/11/2012......thats 12:07 AM in Libya....9/12.....

So you're right, it was sent on 9/12......during the attack.....now whats your point again ?
 
The third email is at 6.07 pm Washington time 9/11/2012......thats 12:07 AM in Libya....9/12.....

So you're right, it was sent on 9/12......during the attack.....now whats your point again ?

You know damn well what the point is pinhead. Your claims that they knew right it was a "terrorist attack" by an al Quaida affiliate and not "spontaneous uprising" that grew out of protest over the video are based on inaccurate information.
 
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