GOP's Benghazi Smoking Gun Goes Up in Smoke

BTW I backed the first iraq war by Bush 42 for the much the same reasons.



They stole a country.

We helped give it back
 
Be it so declared, anybody who opposes Obama's actions will be hereby declared racist.

That includes black people who oppose him.

Stupid.

Again, right on the mark....
As our friend Poet once posted here...."If its true, it ain't racist".....
 
Again, right on the mark....
As our friend Poet once posted here...."If its true, it ain't racist".....

there are people who hate their own people.


This is not impossible.

I dont believe BAC is a racist.

I do believe this story is being whipped into a frenzy just for the election.
 
Take your number 2 and go see if you can get someone else to play with it, you anal retentive moron.

I DID address that and have several times. I am tired of repeating myself. You apparently think you matter and deserve everyone's full and rapt attention to your bullet points of bullshit that you repeat over and over and over again. But once more for you, you little baby...

Stevens and Smith were dead in the first hour. Nothing short of them not being in the first place was going to change their fate. Doherty and Woods died much later after several hours of calm, when it appeared the situation was under control. There WERE other forces attempting to move to the area but Libya is in disarray. If they had gotten there there is nothing to assure that Woods and Doherty would not still have died and it is possible our casualties would have increased.

This is Monday morning Quarterbacking from a benchwarmer for the peewee leagues. The right wing media is attempting to shift focus because the facts don't support their lies about a cover up or a conspiracy. They don't give a damn about the men who died. They want to keep this story in front of the people.

I am done repeating myself. If you have something new...
 
the lybian people started a revolt against their dictator.


He treated some well and others not so well.

when it comes right down to it I think any people who attempt to heave a dictator should see support from those who claim to believe in demoracy

You'll keep telling that same disproven nonsense as long as Obama is in office .. which is why there are advantages to Obama losing.

All the partisan democrats will once again feign humanitarianism and being antiwar.
 
Again moron... the transcripts say exactly what I said they did. You are simply trying to ignore what was actually said in favor of the narrative you WANT to have happened. I am not conflating the two. You are.

They don't, which is why you are not posting them.
 
The RocketStump should count up ALL the times Obama and his administration mentioned the silly video in the days after 9/11/2012, including the six times
Obama himself talked about it at the United Nations.....Rice, Hillary, the Press spokesman, etc....then deny it happened.
 
How about the times robmoney mentioned that the memo sent out by the embassy people themselves mentioning the said video BEFORE they were attacked was an appology to the terrorists?
 
there are people who hate their own people.


This is not impossible.

I dont believe BAC is a racist.

I do believe this story is being whipped into a frenzy just for the election.

As it should....an administration that screws up this bad, lets its people die and doesn't even TRY to send help, and then continually lies about it needs to
be voted out of office at the earliest oppertunity.
 
How about the times robmoney mentioned that the memo sent out by the embassy people themselves mentioning the said video BEFORE they were attacked was an apology to the terrorists?

The administration told us the embassy folks made the claim that a video was a the root of the attacks...did they....and ......what else could he say?

It was the administration that was apoligizing for the video at every opportunity for weeks afterward...
 
there are people who hate their own people.


This is not impossible.

I dont believe BAC is a racist.

I do believe this story is being whipped into a frenzy just for the election.

I don't give a damn about the election. I don't care if Obama wins or loses. Democrats are hiding behind the election.

What I care about is the destruction of societies and human life for profit. MY position has not changed from Iraq to Libya.

Of course democratic cowardice is not surprising. It's the same cowards who didn't oppose Obama on NDAA .. but screamed like banshees on the Patriot Act. NDAA is worse.

It's the same democratic cowardice demonstrated in his drone wars that are killing more innocent people than so-called terrorists. That redefines 'terrorist' as any male that we happen to blow up .. and any child or innocent woman we blow the fucj up as "Oh well."

Oh well motherfucker .. you shouldn't have been standing in the way of Obama's election.

The same cowardly ass people who didn't utter a peep about Obama UNILATERALLY attacking and destroying a peaceful and prosperous nation are the same cowards who didn't utter a peep about Obama killing American citizens without trial.

Same cowards.
 
Take your number 2 and go see if you can get someone else to play with it, you anal retentive moron.

I DID address that and have several times. I am tired of repeating myself. You apparently think you matter and deserve everyone's full and rapt attention to your bullet points of bullshit that you repeat over and over and over again. But once more for you, you little baby...

Stevens and Smith were dead in the first hour. Nothing short of them not being in the first place was going to change their fate. Doherty and Woods died much later after several hours of calm, when it appeared the situation was under control. There WERE other forces attempting to move to the area but Libya is in disarray. If they had gotten there there is nothing to assure that Woods and Doherty would not still have died and it is possible our casualties would have increased.

This is Monday morning Quarterbacking from a benchwarmer for the peewee leagues. The right wing media is attempting to shift focus because the facts don't support their lies about a cover up or a conspiracy. They don't give a damn about the men who died. They want to keep this story in front of the people.

I am done repeating myself. If you have something new...

So what we get from you is non-stop ad hom attacks?

You haven't addressed anything I stated, you simply continue attacking me personally. You have no fucking clue what the transcripts ACTUALLY say. I posted the entire thing on the other thread and you ignored it. Pretending instead that your fantasy version is what actually happened.

Again... I am not suggesting that any action after the attacks began could have saved Stephens and Smith (unless the claims of the CIA being told to stand down rather than assist are correct).

but they most certainly could have helped Doherty and Woods. Again, the spec ops teams in Sicily could have been there in 3 hours. The fighters within 1. To pretend that they could not have been helped because there was lull in the fighting is nothing short of absurd. You are the one who could care less about them, because you are desperate to support your fantasy version of what transpired.

I can see why you are done repeating yourself... you have made a fool of yourself so many times that you now realize how pathetic you have become.
 
You have some proof of this?

I find it odd that two SEALS defended the compound for 7 hrs, and ultimately gave their lives to protect dead people.

Are you sure they were not marines today? The proof came from your own source. You are too stupid to keep any of it stratight.

It's not even up for debate that Smith was dead within the first hour. Stevens went missing in the first hour and was never seen alive again. Any rational person would conclude he was likely dead.
 
So what we get from you is non-stop ad hom attacks?

You haven't addressed anything I stated, you simply continue attacking me personally. You have no fucking clue what the transcripts ACTUALLY say. I posted the entire thing on the other thread and you ignored it. Pretending instead that your fantasy version is what actually happened.

Again... I am not suggesting that any action after the attacks began could have saved Stephens and Smith (unless the claims of the CIA being told to stand down rather than assist are correct).

but they most certainly could have helped Doherty and Woods. Again, the spec ops teams in Sicily could have been there in 3 hours. The fighters within 1. To pretend that they could not have been helped because there was lull in the fighting is nothing short of absurd. You are the one who could care less about them, because you are desperate to support your fantasy version of what transpired.

I can see why you are done repeating yourself... you have made a fool of yourself so many times that you now realize how pathetic you have become.

Stop your crybaby bullshit. You have not offered anything but ad homs and repetition of the same old bullshit. What is worse is your ad homs are completely false. I don't support Obama or the Democrats. If anything I lean a little towards Republicans or some Republicans. Meanhwile the flag wavers (wrong one) are racists, you are a partisan GOP hack and bac is a radical left wing loon. Nowhere did I say you were all racists. That is nothing but a strawman.

I most certainly DID address your point that we could have sent effective support that would have prevented our casualties. To pretend I did not is nothing but trolling.

Not even the stand down stuff could have helped Stevens and Smith. Woods and several others (I am not sure did Doherty) disobeyed that order and still could not save them.

Again, Woods and Doherty were killed after a long period of quiet in which it appeared that everything was under control. Were the fighters supposed to circle for 6 hours?

They were sending in special forces. They did not get their in time (your claim of how soon they could have arrived is bullshit) and even if they had it may have only increased our casualites.

Already said all this. You are trolling.
 
I don't give a damn about the election. I don't care if Obama wins or loses. Democrats are hiding behind the election.

What I care about is the destruction of societies and human life for profit. MY position has not changed from Iraq to Libya.

Of course democratic cowardice is not surprising. It's the same cowards who didn't oppose Obama on NDAA .. but screamed like banshees on the Patriot Act. NDAA is worse.

It's the same democratic cowardice demonstrated in his drone wars that are killing more innocent people than so-called terrorists. That redefines 'terrorist' as any male that we happen to blow up .. and any child or innocent woman we blow the fucj up as "Oh well."

Oh well motherfucker .. you shouldn't have been standing in the way of Obama's election.

The same cowardly ass people who didn't utter a peep about Obama UNILATERALLY attacking and destroying a peaceful and prosperous nation are the same cowards who didn't utter a peep about Obama killing American citizens without trial.

Same cowards.


there are reasons Ike warned of a military industrial complex.
 
I most certainly DID address your point that we could have sent effective support that would have prevented our casualties. To pretend I did not is nothing but trolling.

Not even the stand down stuff could have helped Stevens and Smith. Woods and several others (I am not sure did Doherty) disobeyed that order and still could not save them.

AGAIN MORON... as I stated, I AGREE that sending the military in would not have helped Smith and Stevens. But it WOULD have helped Woods and Doherty. The spec ops teams could have been there prior to the mortar attacks.

AGAIN MORON... WHY can't you address THAT fact?

AGAIN MORON... pretending that because there was a lull in the fighting meant that there was no need to send in additional support is nothing short of ludicrous.


Again, Woods and Doherty were killed after a long period of quiet in which it appeared that everything was under control. Were the fighters supposed to circle for 6 hours?

Yes, until they received an all clear, they should indeed have had fighter cover until it was over. No matter how much you want to pretend that 'everything appeared under control' (which is a complete fabrication on your part)

They were sending in special forces. They did not get their in time (your claim of how soon they could have arrived is bullshit) and even if they had it may have only increased our casualites.

No moron, my 'claim' is based on FACT. The spec ops forces were 480 miles away. They could have been spun up and there within 2-3 hours. That is a FACT. Not opinion. What is bullshit is your saying that if they had made it, it 'may have only increased our casualties'... talk about bullshit spin based on nothing.
 
there are reasons Ike warned of a military industrial complex.

Yes, there are my friend. There are very good reasons.

That truth has not changed since the days of Eisenhower. not changed since the days of Col. Smedley Butler when he wrote "War is a Racket" in 1936 .. and that truth has not changed since the days of Chaplin


And we still have not learned the lessons.
 
We dont have the power to enforce the lesson.


All is not as it seems.


You make the best decision you can make at every step in life.

Very few of those choices involve a perfect choice
 
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