christiefan915
Catalyst
Yep. For example, like Don Blankenship/Massey Energy profiting on the backs of all those WVA miners, including those who died because of his callous disregard for human life and safety.
The Rich/Poor Disparity Myth
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Yep. For example, like Don Blankenship/Massey Energy profiting on the backs of all those WVA miners, including those who died because of his callous disregard for human life and safety.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Just let the garbage men in your hood strike for a few weeks in July and then get back to us.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Just let the garbage pile up for a few weeks at the neurosurgeon's hospital and then we'll see who's important.
christiefan915
Catalyst
They certainly are equally valuable. They're just not equally skilled and educated.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Both, but that's what they do.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Some people think the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Those people would be liberals.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
First, someone already invented the "coconut cracking machine"...it's called a "rock".
And if this marvelous "invention" of mine is so adept at doing it's job, then I'd have no need to trade for food. Coconuts are plentiful and my "machine" makes cracking them a snap.
Second, the point is NO ONE is going to be concerned with what type of "government" is set up when just finding potable water is a problem...no one but some self-absorbed greedhead looking to take advantage of the other 9 people's struggles.
If one of the castaways is so selfish he/she can't see the benefits of sharing everything with the group, and instead wants everyone to go do their own thing and tough titty if it doesn't work out for ya, then he/shetruly defines what is wrong with this country and the basic premise of your little "hypothetical".
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Actually they meant equal in the eyes of the law
Dixie - In Memoriam
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But the point of my story was to illustrate how a perfectly "equal" society in terms of who has wealth, will quickly revert back to a society where there is a disparity between rich and poor. There is no way to "fix" this problem in a free capitalist society. There will always be some people who are motivated to succeed, have the ideas and entrepreneurial spirit to achieve, and there will always be those who lack these attributes. The only way to prevent growing disparity and keep it all equal, is by totalitarian force, or punishing success to the point it is stifled. When that happens, society collapses into poverty and people become slaves to the totalitarian force.
Why so much emotion? I haven't personally referenced or attacked you. I am simply speaking truth which everyone knows but few will admit.
The claim was made that all people are equal -- they are not. An alcoholic, drug-addicted bum sleeping on a park bench is not equal to a highly skilled pillar of society who contributes much to it.
As to me, there are many who are much more valuable and many who are not. I prefer reality over deluding myself. It is what it is.
Meaning they are not equal. Thank you.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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You're totally missing the point of the illustration. I constructed a scenario where we could establish financial equality across the board, so that all subjects have the same amount to start. This is your idealistic dream, correct? For everyone to have equal wealth? Okay, so we have my example, which is intended to show how disparity between rich and poor is natural and can't be "fixed," no need to pick it apart and find fault with the logic, it is presented in order to establish everyone as equal in wealth, starting over in a free capitalist society. If you want to try and remove "capitalism" from the example, then the coconut cracking machine doesn't get invented, people have to bust coconuts with rocks, and if I develop such a machine, I use it for my own family and don't share the technology with you. Then I make spears from bamboo, and when you come after my hybrid seeds and things I've used my skill to create, I kill you. End of fucking scenario.
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
Does this apply to humans who happen to live inside the womb of another person?
christiefan915
Catalyst
They're equal as created human beings, equal in the eyes of the law, and have equally-valuable, if different, contributions to society. You're welcome.
I prefer not to judge people. It may be your truth, but it certainly isn't mine.
I see you won't apply these values of yours to yourself, isn't that the way it always goes, it just applies to other people. You actually see people who have certain skills as more valuable than yourself. I don't.
Your second sentence negates the first.
Discuss the topic, not me. I'm not interested in how you feel about me.
Rocketman
American Worker
Yeah they were all forced to work for him a gun point, are you saying he was a slave owner?
Rocketman
American Worker
anyone can carry their garbage to the landfill, you knew that didn't you?
It is a discussion of the topic. Do you see yourself as having less value than others? Do you see yourself as not being as important or necessary as a neurosurgeon?
Do you see yourself as being less valuable than others by your standards?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
In the eyes of the law all people are equal. We all have equal value and worth before the law. That does not imply that all people are equal in skill, talent or productive abilities.