Absolutely un-***** believable!

[Mott the Hoople]

First of all, I doubt you have anything but the vaguest idea of what Einstein's theories are about.

Second of all, do you think Einstein worked in a vacuum and started from scratch on all of his theories?

It doesn't matter. He doesn't get it. He simply doesn't understand how science works. Nor does he appear to have understood my comments. This is the point I keep making in this thread. It is people like this, who are ignorant of science, that want to dictate to us professionals in the field of science how to teach science. Then they wonder why the US lags behind the rest of the developed world in science education. It's because here in the US we have to deal with these scientific illiterates who, for some unfathomanable reason, think they have a right to tell us how to teach something they don't know the first god damned thing about.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Retarded post by a fucking retard !

I don't believe in god.
I have stated that many times.

But when scientific theories are taught as unquestionable fact to school kids, that could present problems.

Mott even said that children shouldn't question teachers about science, just take what they say as fact, though often science is not fact, it is belief.

Nice strawman.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

intelligent design is actually less "nonscientific hoopla" than the ridiculous suggestion of abiogenesis.....the "theory" that if you sit and watch a mud puddle long enough shit will just happen.......why does that not make us a laughing stock......

More ignorance from PiMP. ID creationism isn't even remotely considered science, except by those with a relgious agenda, and "abiogenisis" is a hypothesis and not a theory. I mean this is what I keep pounding away at. Here we have a wingnut who is so illiterate in science that he not only doesn't know the difference between a hypothesis and a thoery he doesn't even know what a scientific thoery is and these people want to dictate how those of us who are educated in science teach our field of work. It's beyond stupid.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

See, science knows this and that is why it is not a theory.

Give it up Rana he doesn't understand the difference and he's willfully ignorant on the subject. He'll just start arguing in circles again.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Any evidence that I am a liberal? Know many liberals who are pro-gun? Or pro Fair Tax Act? Or who believe in smaller govt and less intrusion by the govt??

Have you seen me post anything truly positive about Obama?


Or does it just hurt your ego that someone kicked your ass in a few discussions, so you have to try and minimize them by calling them "liberal".

It doesn't matter if you are or are not, when you're dealing with a wingnut with limited critical thinking skills any thoughts, concepts or notions that you express that are contrary to their world view threaten that world view. Since they can't rationally defend their particular world view with reason and fact they attack you by marginalizing you as this thing they call a "liberal". It's far easier to marginalize you then it is to defend their particulay world view, if you see my point.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

I don't see Liberal, Democrat, Republican, Socialist, Communist, Tory as pejoratives. Liberal, certainly, is a label of pride. The finest politicians in the world, the greatest thinkers, the greatest changers for good have been Liberal. It is time for American's to take back the true meaning of the word.
If I was to swing to the right, I might call myself a liberal...might need to see my tailor as well!

I agree, most of the greatest political minds in US history were liberals. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, Monroe, Hamilton, JQA, TR, Wilson, FDR, King and on and on and on were liberals. Where as there have been few, if any, great conservative political theorist in US history. In fact virtually all the worst political leaders in US history were conservatives. Nixon, Hoover, Cooledge, Harding,Tyler, Pierce, Buchanon, Grant, Bush II.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Thanks, Oncie. That works for me. I think I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative. At one time that would have made me a conservative. But then the social conservatives took over and moved away from wanting the gov't out of our private lives.

Yea no shit man. That's the fatal flaw of the Republicans adopting the southern strategy so completely. It's alienated former Republicans like you and I who are moderates.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

I don't have a problem with anyone doing that. I have a problem with introducing a higher power in a science class. If for no other reason than to do so you have to not teach something else that is scientific. There is only so much classroom time. If you introduce something you have to remove something else.

I agree. I don't have any issues with teaching religion in school, as long as its done along constitutional guidelines. It simply shouldn't be competing with science in the science class room. As I said before, not only does that make for bad science, it's poor pedagoguery too.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

More ignorance from PiMP. ID creationism isn't even remotely considered science, except by those with a relgious agenda, and "abiogenisis" is a hypothesis and not a theory. I mean this is what I keep pounding away at. Here we have a wingnut who is so illiterate in science that he not only doesn't know the difference between a hypothesis and a thoery he doesn't even know what a scientific thoery is and these people want to dictate how those of us who are educated in science teach our field of work. It's beyond stupid.

lol....there are people on this thread who think its a proven scientific law.....lets face it, ringer......you may know enough biology to determine if mold has grown in your petri dish but you don't have what it takes to debate biology......and you know it....that's why you try to get by with bluster and run from every argument.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

"abiogenisis" is a hypothesis and not a theory.

perhaps that's why I put "theory" in quotes you dimwitted lab technician........

 

[PostmodernProphet]

It simply shouldn't be competing with science in the science class room. As I said before, not only does that make for bad science, it's poor pedagoguery too.

why is abiogenesis in science classrooms, ringer?.......

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

Show me personal attacks from any conservative politician directed at liberal politicians families?

Or in general abusive attacks like liberals "top ten conservative women who deserve to be hate fucked"?

Limbaugh is a joke, an entertainer.

So unless a conservative attacks a politician's family, they don't attack?? What a joke.

How about the harrassment of Chelsea Clinton? The jokes that her father was Janet Reno? Conservatives attack as much as liberals. To deny that is simply lying.

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

It doesn't matter if you are or are not, when you're dealing with a wingnut with limited critical thinking skills any thoughts, concepts or notions that you express that are contrary to their world view threaten that world view. Since they can't rationally defend their particular world view with reason and fact they attack you by marginalizing you as this thing they call a "liberal". It's far easier to marginalize you then it is to defend their particulay world view, if you see my point.

And they are so easy to mess with!

 

[Lowaicue]

lol....there are people on this thread who think its a proven scientific law.....lets face it, ringer......you may know enough biology to determine if mold has grown in your petri dish but you don't have what it takes to debate biology......and you know it....that's why you try to get by with bluster and run from every argument.......

I've been looking for where you support YOUR theories with evidence. Help me cos I can only find attacks on logic.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

lol....there are people on this thread who think its a proven scientific law.....lets face it, ringer......you may know enough biology to determine if mold has grown in your petri dish but you don't have what it takes to debate biology......and you know it....that's why you try to get by with bluster and run from every argument.......

Good lord not only don't you know what a scientific theory is you don't even know what a law of nature is. Evolutionary theory is based on three laws of nature/biology, the law of inheritance, the law of variation and the law of superfecundancy but you would have known that if you knew what the hell you were talking about.

Hey I have an experiment for you PiMP. Go to your nearest State Universities biology department and talk your circular nonsense with them and lets see how many seconds it takes before they start laughing their asses off at you? My guess is about 10 seconds.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

perhaps that's why I put "theory" in quotes you dimwitted lab technician........

Sure you did PiMP, sure you did. Hell it's perfectly clear to anyone who actually has studied science and didn't attend your alma mater The Nashville School of Faith Healing and Proctology, that you don't have the first foggiest clue what a scientific theory is. You consistantly time and time and time again use "law", "theory", and "hypothesis" out if their proper scientific context. It's freaken hillarious!

 

[Mott the Hoople]

why is abiogenesis in science classrooms, ringer?.......

Is it? I wouldn't know....I didn't go into teaching partly cause I didn't want to have to put up with nutjobs like you who feel entitled to an opinion on something they're completely ignorant on. But hell, so what if they do teach abiogenisis in a science class? It's a perfectly valid scientific hypothesis. Even if it is taught, and taught correctly, for one thing I seriously doubt much time is spent on it and secondly it's not foundational to the science of biology like evolutionary theory is but again, if you knew what you were talking about you'd understant that now, wouldn't you?

 

[Mott the Hoople]

And they are so easy to mess with!

True dat!

 

[Mott the Hoople]

I've been looking for where you support YOUR theories with evidence. Help me cos I can only find attacks on logic.

I know...round and round and round he goes.....where PiMP stops...nobody knows! LOL

 

[007]

So unless a conservative attacks a politician's family, they don't attack?? What a joke.

How about the harrassment of Chelsea Clinton? The jokes that her father was Janet Reno? Conservatives attack as much as liberals. To deny that is simply lying.

Never happened.
Did conservatives threaten to "hate fuck" Chelsea Clinton?

Liberals have a top ten list of conservative women that deserve to be "Hate Fucked"!

What exactly does "hate fuck" refer to?
A violent and forced sexual encounter?

Liberal hate again.