How the religious right is undermining education

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http://www.salon.com/2013/02/25/how_the_religious_right_is_undermining_education/#comments

This article originally appeared on AlterNet.


One can trace the development of today’s right wing Christian think takes to the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s. Religiously conservative people, motivated by their perceived degradation of society, quietly perfected their skills, all the while grooming their own young adherents, played an effective long-game that continues to win (and corrupt) the hearts and minds of a significant segment of our youth. Indeed, there is no better way to affect the future than by propagandizing the young. In this current post election season, the Biblically driven, often racist, members of society are once again regrouping to fight another day.


With the money of wealth funders like Richard and Betsy DeVos (sister of Blackwater scion Eric Prince and daughter of Elsa and Edgar Prince of the Amway fortune) and the Walton, Koch and Scaife Foundations, simpatico politicians are hard at work bringing Dominionist [3] ideals quietly into the forefront of American education policy. While much of the country argues about budgets, deficits, and guns, a cleverly camouflaged package of School Choice and ”Bible-driven curricula“ make their way up the ladder.


On the surface, School Choice is purportedly about increasing opportunities for inner city and rural youth. The all-important subtext, however, is that School Choice is really about freeing up dollars for Christian-based education. An important arrow that energizes today’s religious quiver is the intentional misuse of language in changing the debate by referring to public schools as “government schools” and public education as a “government school monopoly,” thus instantly and directly speaking to Tea Partiers and Libertarians.


To still relatively scant notice, the call for “School Choice” or Vouchers continues to play out in state capitols across the nation in an effort to increase Biblically based education through a redirection of tax dollars from public to private religious schools. In order to accomplish the end goal of Christianizing all students, stealth remains largely the rule of the day. In 2002, Dick DeVos told The Heritage Foundation [4],

“We need to be cautious about talking too much about these activities. Many of the activities and the political work that needs to go on will go on at the grass roots. It will go on quietly and it will go on in the form that often politics is done – one person at a time, speaking to another person in privacy. And so these issues will not be, maybe, as visible or as noteworthy, but they will set a framework within states for the possibility of action on education reform issues.”

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While I fear voucher systems and such for the very reason complained of in this article, I dont see much proof that the Religous Right are having much success using the voucher program to promote such an adjenda.

My son is in a charter school. I particularly like it and monitor the ciriculum to make sure I dont see any adjenda other than to educate my child. The school is a particularly good choice for us as the public elementry in our area is being rebuilt and if it were not for the charter school he would have to be bussed to a far away school without a very good reputation. I like having the choice. I simply hope the government is monitoring the voucher program closely to ensure the Christians do not promote an anti-sciense adjenda.
 
While I fear voucher systems and such for the very reason complained of in this article, I dont see much proof that the Religous Right are having much success using the voucher program to promote such an adjenda.

My son is in a charter school. I particularly like it and monitor the ciriculum to make sure I dont see any adjenda other than to educate my child. The school is a particularly good choice for us as the public elementry in our area is being rebuilt and if it were not for the charter school he would have to be bussed to a far away school without a very good reputation. I like having the choice. I simply hope the government is monitoring the voucher program closely to ensure the Christians do not promote an anti-sciense adjenda.


Sending tax funding to private schools via vouchers is the issue, not charter schools. That is a whole separate issue.
 
The double standard is so prevalent in pinhead thinking...you can demand others fund the school system you prefer, but refuse to fund the system others prefer in return ..

and you don't see the injustice in that arrangement at all...

You can confiscate money from people to fund what you want but you whine when they want something in return.

Pinheads always think they know best what is good for everyone and screw this nonsense about individual freedom....

The fact that the gov't school system has used the legal system to force ALL children into their care and has been indoctrinating all children with liberal propaganda for decades without restraint is perfectly ok with them, but whine, cry and bitch when others demand their children actually be raised by and with the values their parents.....

Liberal Democrats have been striving to limit our freedoms for a century and pinheads don't even notice it................yet.
 
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The double standard is so prevalent in pinhead thinking...you can demand others fund the school system you prefer, but refuse to fund the system others prefer in return ..

and you don't see the injustice in that arrangement at all...

You can confiscate money from people to fund what you want but you whine when they want something in return.

Pinheads always think they know best what is good for everyone and screw this nonsense about individual freedom....

The fact that the gov't school system has used the legal system to force ALL children into their care and has been indoctrinating all children with liberal propaganda for decades without restraint is perfectly ok with them, but whine, cry and bitch when others demand their children actually be raised by and with the values their parents.....

Liberal Democrats have been striving to limit our freedoms for a century and pinheads don't even notice it................yet.

I wonder if you really thought this through. Liberals support the free public school system that was started in the 1800s, and if we don't like the schools, we have the choice to pay and send our kids to private schools. Our taxes go toward a free, secular education that's available to all. If you want your kids to have a specific religious, cultural or ethnic education, why do you expect others to pay for it? Your freedom to do so is still intact.

And as far as "indoctrinating kids with liberal propaganda, etc." I'm not sure what this means. But take a look at the map below. The greatest area of the country is composed of red states. That means these people vote for and support conservative teachings. So what's your basis for the liberal indoctrination comment? If that were true the greatest part of the country would be reliably liberal, instead of the opposite.

320px-Red_state%2C_blue_state.svg.png


Summary of results of the 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012 presidential elections:

(Red) States carried by the Republican all four elections.
(Pink) States carried by the Republicans in three of the four elections
(Purple) States carried by each party twice in the four elections
(Lt. blue) States carried by the Democrat in three of the four elections
(Dk. blue) States carried by the Democrat in all four elections
 
I wonder if you really thought this through. Liberals support the free public school system that was started in the 1800s, and if we don't like the schools, we have the choice to pay and send our kids to private schools. Our taxes go toward a free, secular education that's available to all. If you want your kids to have a specific religious, cultural or ethnic education, why do you expect others to pay for it? Your freedom to do so is still intact.

why do you expect others to pay for it ?......That begs the question, why do YOU expect others to pay for both yours and theirs ?

and when you say "pay for it"... don't you think it would serve the truth more to not claim that we have free public school system ?....Its mandatory, not free.

And as far as "indoctrinating kids with liberal propaganda, etc." I'm not sure what this means. But take a look at the map below. The greatest area of the country is composed of red states. That means these people vote for and support conservative teachings. So what's your basis for the liberal indoctrination comment? If that were true the greatest part of the country would be reliably liberal, instead of the opposite.

Now you look at land mass and not population, when it suits your purpose ? That borders on a flat out lie or at best, mis-leading.

Do you honestly deny that the vast majority of teachers are liberal Democrats?...and you can't be gullible enough to think that their personal and political views and beliefs
don't naturally creep into the classroom, and you've certainly heard about the many instances of liberal bias that is found in the classroom on purpose up to threatening the kids with bad grades if they don't get the point......5 and 6 year old children singing praise to Obama akin to worship...thats dispicable
no matter what side of coin does it.

320px-Red_state%2C_blue_state.svg.png


Summary of results of the 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012 presidential elections:

(Red) States carried by the Republican all four elections.
(Pink) States carried by the Republicans in three of the four elections
(Purple) States carried by each party twice in the four elections
(Lt. blue) States carried by the Democrat in three of the four elections
(Dk. blue) States carried by the Democrat in all four elections

There are two sides to every issue....sometimes even more than two.
 
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The fact that the gov't school system has used the legal system to force ALL children into their care and has been indoctrinating all children with liberal propaganda for decades without restraint is perfectly ok with them, but whine, cry and bitch when others demand their children actually be raised by and with the values their parents.....
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Prove anyone is ever forced to go to public schools Bravo.

The entire premise of your rant is, as usual, based on a lie.
 
Prove anyone is ever forced to go to public schools Bravo.

The entire premise of your rant is, as usual, based on a lie.
Actually you do have to receive some form of education and if you are unable to afford homeschool or private school, you're stuck with public education.
 
Prove anyone is ever forced to go to public schools Bravo.

The entire premise of your rant is, as usual, based on a lie.

Due to your lack of comprehending what is being discussed, you mis-state what the "premise" of my post is...
you just want to play word games like the pinhead you are. School is mandatory. School tax is mandatory.
The words, " Its mandatory, not free."....plainly shows we're talking about money.....
 
why do you expect others to pay for it ?......That begs the question, why do YOU expect others to pay for both yours and theirs ?
Because of the social contract. Mandatory education is for the common good of society, not a frill. You want to go back to medieval times when only the well-off had education, or what? I guess your big gripe is taxes, cry me a river. Every single taxpayer has to fork over for something they'll never use or don't want to pay for. In my case it's a bloated military. Too bad we can't pick and choose where taxes go, but that's life.

and when you say "pay for it"... don't you think it would serve the truth more to not claim that we have free public school system ?....Its mandatory, not free.
Free in the context that no kid has to pay to attend school. Mandatory (to you, I guess) is that you have to pay school taxes when none of your kids are in the system. Maybe the betterment of society doesn't mean much to you.

Now you look at land mass and not population, when it suits your purpose ? That borders on a flat out lie or at best, mis-leading.
You're joking, right? Michigan and North Carolina are almost equal in population, which do you think has more liberals?

Do you honestly deny that the vast majority of teachers are liberal Democrats?...and you can't be gullible enough to think that their personal and political views and beliefs don't naturally creep into the classroom...
It sounds unlikely but I don't know, and neither do you. Surely you don't think the majority of red state teachers are liberal. I have a kid in the system and he tells me when teachers make comments that point to their political leanings, and the only one I know about for sure is his AP History teacher, who's a staunch conservative.If you want to persuade me that the vast majority are libs you'll have to do more than just flap your gums.

...and you've certainly heard about the many instances of liberal bias that is found in the classroom on purpose up to threatening the kids with bad grades if they don't get the point...

No, I never heard this. Link me up.

...5 and 6 year old children singing praise to Obama akin to worship...thats dispicable no matter what side of coin does it.

Lol. Cheer up, the principal got death threats over that. Only a conservative could take it so seriously.Btw, it was one class in one school, not a national event. Heaven knows there were no songs about presidents before this. :rolleyes:

"Young Abe Lincoln (Make a Tall, Tall Man)" by Johnny Horton
"Abe Lincoln" by Bishop Allen
"Eisenhower Blues" by J.B. Lenoir
"Ronnie Talk to Russia" by Prince
 
Because of the social contract. Mandatory education is for the common good of society, not a frill. You want to go back to medieval times when only the well-off had education, or what? I guess your big gripe is taxes, cry me a river. Every single taxpayer has to fork over for something they'll never use or don't want to pay for. In my case it's a bloated military. Too bad we can't pick and choose where taxes go, but that's life.

Attributing something to me I didn't say ?....again ?....thats seems to be the standard tactic of lefties...
I never said you'd get out of paying the school tax...I said it should be used to educate your child in the school of your choice....not force you to
pay double .....


Free in the context that no kid has to pay to attend school. Mandatory (to you, I guess) is that you have to pay school taxes when none of your kids are in the system. Maybe the betterment of society doesn't mean much to you.

And now you wanna play words games....tactic #2
School is mandatory and paying the school tax is mandatory....you schould have a voice in which school you want to spend it at...
I didn't say you would not pay even if you had no kids, just that if you do have kids, it should be your spent where you
decide to send you kid to school
.

You're joking, right? Michigan and North Carolina are almost equal in population, which do you think has more liberals?

Now you gonna compare 2 states and equate that to the entire country....you're joking, right ?


It sounds unlikely but I don't know, and neither do you. Surely you don't think the majority of red state teachers are liberal. I have a kid in the system and he tells me when teachers make comments that point to their political leanings, and the only one I know about for sure is his AP History teacher, who's a staunch conservative.If you want to persuade me that the vast majority are libs you'll have to do more than just flap your gums.

I think the majority of teachers in general are liberal, no matter what the state....I'm sure, being your kid, he knows exactly what to report to you
about his "conservative" teacher....hes conditioned at home.....

I once said to a little 5 year old black kid, "Hey boy, you're a pretty big guy already" and he got all huffy for being called 'boy'...even his mother was embarrassed....its "conditioning"




No, I never heard this. Link me up.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/school_files/Philly-teacher-.html
http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-ob...tes-student-daring-question-obama-s-greatness
http://www.twincities.com/localnews...r-paid-administrative-leave-following-alleged
http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/21/n...tudents-who-disrespect-president-obama-audio/
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/poli...o-teacher-fights-student-over-president-obama



Lol. Cheer up, the principal got death threats over that. Only a conservative could take it so seriously.Btw, it was one class in one school, not a national event. Heaven knows there were no songs about presidents before this. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I'm sure if 5 and 6 year old kids were being taught hymns of praise to George Bush, the pinheads would have ignored it.....
Songs in one or two schools, full wall murals in others, biased assignments in others, and other things in other schools.



"Young Abe Lincoln (Make a Tall, Tall Man)" by Johnny Horton
"Abe Lincoln" by Bishop Allen
"Eisenhower Blues" by J.B. Lenoir
"Ronnie Talk to Russia" by Prince


Please enjoy the links.....you won't hear this stuff on msm ......ie, MSNBC
 
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Because of the social contract. Mandatory education is for the common good of society, not a frill. You want to go back to medieval times when only the well-off had education, or what? I guess your big gripe is taxes, cry me a river. Every single taxpayer has to fork over for something they'll never use or don't want to pay for. In my case it's a bloated military. Too bad we can't pick and choose where taxes go, but that's life.


Free in the context that no kid has to pay to attend school. Mandatory (to you, I guess) is that you have to pay school taxes when none of your kids are in the system. Maybe the betterment of society doesn't mean much to you.


You're joking, right? Michigan and North Carolina are almost equal in population, which do you think has more liberals?


It sounds unlikely but I don't know, and neither do you. Surely you don't think the majority of red state teachers are liberal. I have a kid in the system and he tells me when teachers make comments that point to their political leanings, and the only one I know about for sure is his AP History teacher, who's a staunch conservative.If you want to persuade me that the vast majority are libs you'll have to do more than just flap your gums.



No, I never heard this. Link me up.



Lol. Cheer up, the principal got death threats over that. Only a conservative could take it so seriously.Btw, it was one class in one school, not a national event. Heaven knows there were no songs about presidents before this. :rolleyes:

"Young Abe Lincoln (Make a Tall, Tall Man)" by Johnny Horton
"Abe Lincoln" by Bishop Allen
"Eisenhower Blues" by J.B. Lenoir
"Ronnie Talk to Russia" by Prince

I learned a song in grade school about John F. Kennedy
 
The religious fascists in the republican party need to be stopped. Thay have turned the U.S. into a Police state.Personally I find that grounds for war.
 
The law allows home schooling, parochial shooling or private schools. No one is forced to go to public schools.

No shit pinhead....you should have tried some "shooling' yourself......the point is you are forced to pay for public schooling even if you choose a non-gov't school.

The average cost per child is about $10,000 per year, so you're saving the gov. that much if you choose an alternate school....in all fairness, some of that
savings to gov. should be used to assist the taxpayer in their cost of paying for an alternate school....its simple justice.
Naturally, that cost is different in different sections of the country.

I fear the words 'justice and fairness' won't mean anything to you.
 
No shit pinhead....you should have tried some "shooling' yourself......the point is you are forced to pay for public schooling even if you choose a non-gov't school.

The average cost per child is about $10,000 per year, so you're saving the gov. that much if you choose an alternate school....in all fairness, some of that
savings to gov. should be used to assist the taxpayer in their cost of paying for an alternate school....its simple justice.
Naturally, that cost is different in different sections of the country.

I fear the words 'justice and fairness' won't mean anything to you.

Justice and fairness mean the same to me as it does to you. There simply is no application of either term in this topic. Face it you cheap fuck, you can't stand paying your fair share, nothing more, nothing less.
 
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