I now understand the order to stay in your homes

Jarod said:
No they would, but that would be wrong. I am watching on CNN, right now, where people are out and about mixing with the police who are searching homes. The people might be allowing the searches, or maybe not. If its not voluntary, its wrong.
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I'm hearing from residents that they are not allowed to be out, so I question CNN
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I'm hearing from residents that they are not allowed to be out, so I question CNN
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I was watching live video, and people were out walking dogs and walking down the street right next to police who were in riot gear, walking in formation down the street.
 
Steelplate said:
Do have stats that prove black marketeers aren't sucking up guns from private sales?
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so in other words you FEEL that background checks would limit guns getting in the hands of those who shouldn't have them? and I'm really loving the fact that supporting and upholding the constitution makes me an anarchist. ROFL that's an awesome one.
 
Damocles said:
I thought you were smarter than this. If the goal is to affect the US through terrorism, you hand the victory to your opponent by acting as if you are terrorized.
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And if he blows himself up on a train and takes 20 innocent people with him are you willing to take responsibility for that?
 
Damocles said:
I'll bet there are many disarmed and frightened people in Boston that have had their first "moment" where they wish they were armed so they could do something other than simply be victims if the guy shows up at their house.
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Good god. when's the last time you've been to Boston? Boston may have a reputation of being a city of blue blooded patricians but I assure you that's not the reality.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so in other words you FEEL that background checks would limit guns getting in the hands of those who shouldn't have them? and I'm really loving the fact that supporting and upholding the constitution makes me an anarchist. ROFL that's an awesome one.
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In other words, you FEEL that background checks wouldn't help.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the question is what is better at providing safety to the community. do you believe that mandatory background checks that will not affect violent criminals in any way, shape, or form is a better way of providing security than rounding up all violent criminals and the criminally insane and locking them up forever?
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Out where you live, maybe not but here in the city where I live where the Crips & Bloods & M3 & The Satans & The Outlaws are better armed then law enforcement, yea....this will help make it more difficult for them to obtain weapons while doing nothing to abridge my 2nd ammendment rights.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Out where you live, maybe not but here in the city where I live where the Crips & Bloods & M3 & The Satans & The Outlaws are better armed then law enforcement, yea....this will help make it more difficult for them to obtain weapons while doing nothing to abridge my 2nd ammendment rights.
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Are you really expecting him to think of anything other than himself?
 
Steelplate said:
Are you really expecting him to think of anything other than himself?
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I find the gun control issue a very interesting one. I've lived half my life in rural environment and the other have in an urban one and the disconnect I see on both sides is interesting.

Many city people don't understand the independence of rural life. If you have an emergency you can't count on the police, fire dept or EMT's to be there in a couple of minutes. It may be a half hour. Much of what goes on in life in a rural environment you do yourself or it doesn't get done and that which even appears threatening to you independence isn't well appreciated.

On the other hand, you don't have well armed gang roaming the streets, doing drive buy shootings or organized criminals, drug dealers, etc infesting your neighborhoods. Whens the last time a terrorist attack occurred in Hoxie, Arkansas or Eldridge, IA? When's the last time you had a drive by shooting or a drug war in Wabash, IN or Clanton, AL? Rural folks are pretty disconnected from these facts of urban life.

It's an interesting disconnect and neither side seems willing to see the others point of view.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I just find it bloody amazing that a whole city can be put into lock down over one gunman, totally crazy.
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It's not what you're thinking. They can order you indoors and they can arrest you if you come out and interfere with their operation. Other than that it's really a request to stay inside.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
But according to you gun nuts everyone IS armed.

You've claimed time and again a frying pan can be a weapon...

A Knife can be a weapon...

A bowling trophy can be a weapon...

A screwdriver can be a weapon...

Everyone's got something in their house capable of killing according to you gun nuts, so just by using your criteria, we can conclude no one is unarmed.
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I have made no such claim, other than to point out that if "it would only save one kid's life" is used as criteria, then cars and swimming ppools should be banned.

Anyway, your absurd argument is lost as those who used to be unarmed now will arm themselves so they won't be entirely vulnerable should another idiot kill some people and shut down their city. Nothing like the cops proving they won't be there for you when it really counts, they'll just tell you to stay home and cower then show up later to take pictures of the carnage and "bring to justice" somebody after the fact.
 
BTW - Dung... The guys didn't rob the 7-11, they just happened to be at the 7-11 when it was robbed. Do you think this now means that they are well-funded and part of a larger conspiracy? You used the fact that they "robbed" a 7-11 to "prove" that they clearly were never part of something larger and weren't well funded... So, now that we know they didn't rob the place, and had quite a few more of these bombs, are you quite as sure they weren't part of something larger?
 
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